Why is GTA online still fkn garbage after 10+ years?

[dime]

The trailers show a grand time, but so far I've experienced nothing but time sinks and missions so difficult you're absolutely required to run a crew. Which, let's face it, anyone buying the game this late in the cycle isn't really interested in.

My review explains my first encounter back in game. I gave it a while and decided I'd give it another go, the trailers make the game look so freaking epic and fun. I get back in, delete my character because my first was "modded" to level 15 and like 700k cash by some doucher in the lobby.

Note: Deleting your character gives you a fresh start, resetting your assets and character skills. But it DOES NOT reset your money. So anything you've spent on assets, it's gone. This really hit because I spent quite a bit on some buildings etc before deletion.

So I created my new character np, finished up with intro and jump in a private game (because playing public servers is literal cancer.) and finish upto Lamars armed robbery tutorial mission. Great, Get a call from Simion to for the car claim mission, at the same time I get an email with a treasure hunt. Cool, I decide to check out the hunt, get to the area and am literally running around for half an hour like an idiot looking for this clue. Find the exact area the picture is taken from but it's so far outside of the mission area and there's no clue. Search the mission area and finally just say "f it" after another 10 minutes of searching and alt-f4 this trash.

What gives? Why is GTA online so bad?? It's as if they've made no progress since I last played over 10 years ago? Needless to say this doesn't look great if they continue on like this with GTA6. I will say I played on console last and the game looks absolutely stunning on my PC. Oh and the single player is still legit fun. Shame all content released since the game came out was for GTA Online and not both. Instead you get a story mode that is just that and any empire building has to be done online while dependent on other people.

Maybe it's my fault for expecting a decent experience? As it is, you're thrown into a cesspool with public sessions and you're overwhelmed by the over-abundance of (and arguably overly-advanced for starting player) content they literally throw at you from all sides with no chance for breaths in between. When you want to try something that seems entry level like a treasure hunt (Mind you not my first, my first was on first char was cut off right before I got to open the treasure box due to game crash.) it turns out difficult and unrewarding.

The way I'm seeing it is you're dropped in an MMO (not the greatest analogy I know.) with full gear and full skills and told "Go journey, hero of the ages!" as if you've been here the whole time when I've just f-ing downloaded the game and logged in for the first few times. Because apparently I've been making a huge name for myself since I landed, Lamar picked me up and I robbed one convenience store. Everyone in town suddenly wants me to lead their everything because I'm just the best and I'm here with a pistol and not a clue.

Rockstar makes a good single player game. That's easy to admit. But this online service is as bad as I remember. Not only is it not fun, it's stressful and a unsatisfying.

[Cooligan]

because rockstar keeps throwing all these ♥♥♥♥♥♥ unnecessary updates.

[ChickenBalls]

another chatgpt essay

[cruste]

gamers 2023
i can't find the treasure, game sucks....

sir you need to push stop pulling

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Originally posted by dime:

Search the mission area and finally just say "f it" after another 10 minutes of searching and alt-f4 this trash.

So the whole argument of you enjoying the game and praising its graphics breaks down the instant you hit one challenge? Your attention deficit kicks in and throw your toys out the pram like a child? Public sessions are cancer, but your attitude is quite literal cancer too. I bet if you were to play in public sessions cheater-free, you'd still act like a bratty adolescent wanting an easy ride, left-click to win experience. A Treasure Hunt is supposed to be a puzzle. Something to work out, not to walk from A to B to C and collect your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ prize.

The entire Online mode is free. You don't have to PvP anymore. You don't have to race. You don't even have to buy any businesses. You did when this game launched, because free money was literally nonexistent! Now you get hand-held by this developer your whole GTAO journey. You get to play in the comfort of invite only, away from any real confrontation. The Online content has been diluted to such a stage that not even on-screen instructions and vocal cues from characters can guide players like you anymore. A sad indictment.

You can join others without the content barriers you despise and have other hosts pay those upfront costs for you. You can play game modes that cost no fee - for free money - such as Heists or Contact missions. You can also refuse to ready up like most of your type do when they claim they're "new" and have no money. How can you complain about too much content? That is such a mind-boggling take. Do a little online research into a game you bought, ask a couple questions, and maybe it will seem less stressful for you.

[Roland]

You really just wrote an entire book preface to complain about not being able to figure out a single mission?
Like I get complaining about a bad mission, but to say the entire game is trash because you couldn't figure it out, or maybe it was a bug, or a modder interfered (intentionally or otherwise) ?

Originally posted by dime:

The trailers show a grand time, but so far I've experienced nothing but time sinks and missions so difficult you're absolutely required to run a crew.

Right from the jump you were wrong as I've solo'd everything that can be solo'd and things that can't be started without a crew, I have carried crews on, in almost every instance. Doomsday Part 3 I can literally solo while the crew hangs at spawn, as long as everyone is patient. (it's exhausting because it's not meant to be done, but it can be done)

I forgot to add that I play with a controller, always first person on foot (third person cover), and there is no aim assist online.
I'm stacking literally everything I can against myself and can still pull my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ off.
It's at the point where I make new challenges for myself, like trying to do missions with just a BMX and pistol.

in other words: GTAO = difficult, does not compute

P.S.: why would you think you would get your money back on a character you delete?
And why would you not look it up if you bought shark cards or the enterprise pack?

[dime]

So the whole argument of you enjoying the game and praising its graphics breaks down the instant you hit one challenge? Your attention deficit kicks in and throw your toys out the pram like a child?

Pram, huh? Must be one of those United Kuckdom citizens... Sorry you think so little of your time. Are you trying to tell me spending 40+ minutes searching an area for a clue is legit thought-out "content"?? Who are you trying to convince? Me or yourself?

this is literally your argument paraphrased in a dialogue..
Me: "I've been banging my head against this wall for half an hour to 40 minutes, it's not fun."
You: "Skill issue. get gud"

The entire Online mode is free. You don't have to PvP anymore. You don't have to race. You don't even have to buy any businesses. You did when this game launched, because free money was literally nonexistent!

Nah, you did this at launch because there was literally nothing else to do. How's the meme go? "Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch. I was there when it was written." Also, game is not free. Its never been free. Although I do thank rockstars paypigs for keeping the servers strong enough to support the 100k+ invite only lobbies while cheats and trolls rule public. In fact, logic and results point to it being quite profitable for Rockstar. So you keep going on with that "free" crap. Did we pay out of pocket for each expansion/pack? Of course not. But lets not pretend Rockstar is doing it out of the graciousness of their heart. I'd even argue the paypigs are what has prevented us from seeing a new game in the franchise.

You can join others without the content barriers you despise and have other hosts pay those upfront costs for you. You can play game modes that cost no fee - for free money - such as Heists or Contact missions. You can also refuse to ready up like most of your type do when they claim they're "new" and have no money. How can you complain about too much content? That is such a mind-boggling take. Do a little online research into a game you bought, ask a couple questions, and maybe it will seem less stressful for you.

This is where you totally lose me, I'm almost begging for content barriers. The amount of content is fine, it's how it's introduced to the "new" player pushing towards choice paralysis. Leading me down the road I ultimately took resulting in the "Quit moment" I experienced. I don't expect you to understand the reasoning but there it is.

As I analogized, treasure hunt aside, you're dropped into the game, get your pistol from Lamar and suddenly start getting calls like you have the credibility of an OG that has been pulling jobs for fixers for decades. It's bassackwards lazy game design by what's supposed to be a triple-A studio.

Pertaining to doing research on game purchases... It's GTA. But even if it wasn't, really? ..I always wondered how the guidebook market kept afloat. Good job supporting capitalism in your own way, I suppose. It's pretty obvious the game holds a place in your heart (As it does mine.) and I appreciate the insight provided while you argue in favor of it. But at the end of the day it's in Rockstars interest to keep players in game. With the quality and amount of games out there today, something as simplistic as frustration of an over abundance of time spent on what's basically a trivial mission and or the lack of proper "new" player pacing is more than enough to say, "f this." -which obviously, in turn, hurts Rockstars overall prospects of players buying monthly premium/Shark cards.

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Originally posted by Roland:

You really just wrote an entire book preface to complain about not being able to figure out a single mission?

no he used chatgpt

[dime]

Originally posted by Roland:

You really just wrote an entire book preface to complain about not being able to figure out a single mission?
Like I get complaining about a bad mission, but to say the entire game is trash because you couldn't figure it out, or maybe it was a bug, or a modder interfered (intentionally or otherwise) ?

Originally posted by dime:

The trailers show a grand time, but so far I've experienced nothing but time sinks and missions so difficult you're absolutely required to run a crew.

Right from the jump you were wrong as I've solo'd everything that can be solo'd and things that can't be started without a crew, I have carried crews on, in almost every instance. Doomsday Part 3 I can literally solo while the crew hangs at spawn, as long as everyone is patient. (it's exhausting because it's not meant to be done, but it can be done)

I forgot to add that I play with a controller, always first person on foot (third person cover), and there is no aim assist online.
I'm stacking literally everything I can against myself and can still pull my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ off.
It's at the point where I make new challenges for myself, like trying to do missions with just a BMX and pistol.

in other words: GTAO = difficult, does not compute

P.S.: why would you think you would get your money back on a character you delete?
And why would you not look it up if you bought shark cards or the enterprise pack?

I dunno, 10 minutes of thought typed out followed by 5-10 minutes of edit to explain my new(ish) player experiences seems pretty tame to me?

Fair points but you seem like a grizzled veteran player, there's really no comparison to a fresh off the plane noob. My mission experience consists of getting gunned down by 4 cars after stealing a drug-van and chasing a helicopter in a car with nothing but a rifle. Neither of which were really entertaining or fruitful.

As for credits not resetting, it was more of a warning than a gripe. I'm fine with it and obviously Rockstar has to make their money.

[Trap]

WOW ITS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ NOTHING

[Soloplayer902]

Originally posted by dime:

The trailers show a grand time, but so far I've experienced nothing but time sinks and missions so difficult you're absolutely required to run a crew. Which, let's face it, anyone buying the game this late in the cycle isn't really interested in.

My review explains my first encounter back in game. I gave it a while and decided I'd give it another go, the trailers make the game look so freaking epic and fun. I get back in, delete my character because my first was "modded" to level 15 and like 700k cash by some doucher in the lobby.

Note: Deleting your character gives you a fresh start, resetting your assets and character skills. But it DOES NOT reset your money. So anything you've spent on assets, it's gone. This really hit because I spent quite a bit on some buildings etc before deletion.

So I created my new character np, finished up with intro and jump in a private game (because playing public servers is literal cancer.) and finish upto Lamars armed robbery tutorial mission. Great, Get a call from Simion to for the car claim mission, at the same time I get an email with a treasure hunt. Cool, I decide to check out the hunt, get to the area and am literally running around for half an hour like an idiot looking for this clue. Find the exact area the picture is taken from but it's so far outside of the mission area and there's no clue. Search the mission area and finally just say "f it" after another 10 minutes of searching and alt-f4 this trash.

What gives? Why is GTA online so bad?? It's as if they've made no progress since I last played over 10 years ago? Needless to say this doesn't look great if they continue on like this with GTA6. I will say I played on console last and the game looks absolutely stunning on my PC. Oh and the single player is still legit fun. Shame all content released since the game came out was for GTA Online and not both. Instead you get a story mode that is just that and any empire building has to be done online while dependent on other people.

Maybe it's my fault for expecting a decent experience? As it is, you're thrown into a cesspool with public sessions and you're overwhelmed by the over-abundance of (and arguably overly-advanced for starting player) content they literally throw at you from all sides with no chance for breaths in between. When you want to try something that seems entry level like a treasure hunt (Mind you not my first, my first was on first char was cut off right before I got to open the treasure box due to game crash.) it turns out difficult and unrewarding.

The way I'm seeing it is you're dropped in an MMO (not the greatest analogy I know.) with full gear and full skills and told "Go journey, hero of the ages!" as if you've been here the whole time when I've just f-ing downloaded the game and logged in for the first few times. Because apparently I've been making a huge name for myself since I landed, Lamar picked me up and I robbed one convenience store. Everyone in town suddenly wants me to lead their everything because I'm just the best and I'm here with a pistol and not a clue.

Rockstar makes a good single player game. That's easy to admit. But this online service is as bad as I remember. Not only is it not fun, it's stressful and a unsatisfying.

So I take it you don't like it baby