To all the "banned for no reason" people

[InsaneMystic]

Rockstar bans people randomly because their algorithms suck and they can't or won't bother to hire actual human beings (GMs), to check into that. Don't let the fanboys who roam the ban threads tell you otherwise. I know for 100% certain that I never cheated or modded in multiplayer, and I would be ready to swear an oath on that in court. Only Rockstar (or not even them, themselves) knows what they tempbanned me for, twice. And they couldn't be arsed to give their reasons, either time.

Good luck on trying to appeal. I bet you'll just get the standard automated message. No human will even bother reading what you write into it.

Only thing you can do, except sit the ban out, and hope you don't get randomly banned forever after R* screws up on you for the third time?

Do not ever spend a single cent on any Rockstar game again in future. That's what.

Hard, I know, because their games are well and rightly known to be the benchmark for singleplayer open world masterpieces.

But fact is, Rockstar SUCKS at running Multiplayer games. GTA is, and should forever have remained, a single player game; they have clearly gotten in way over their heads with this game.

GTA Online, great as it may have been in the hands of a competent company (I sure did have fun in it, for a number of hours well into the three-digits range, and would have rated it 9/10 without the debacle that is random bans and airquote-"customer support"), should never have been made, and has forever tainted Rockstar's image in my eyes.




P.S.: To those of you that did cheat and are lying about it, which I obviously can't rule out completely... f*** you. Scum like you are the reason why Rockstar can't just switch their algorithms off and be done with it, even if it victimizes honest players along the way. Hope you can live with looking yourselves in the eye.

[The Mandarin Skyrush]

i have play many online games in the past, world of tanks, world of warships, Dota 2, Battlefield, Hero of the Storm and now Overwatch, btw also Tera one of the most popular open world games with maps 10 times the size of Los Santos. My online experience had been excellent with these games, no lags, no DC, never got kicked out of server for no reason. Currently GTA 5 online is the only game that i have serious connection issue and it cannot be fixed no matter what. R* really doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about its players, and they spend time with so many DLCs but never once did they address the core issue which is the connection problem. so yeah, i don't think GTA 6 will be in my library, unless both single player and multiplayer are proven to be funcational. i bought this game during steam sales event, though i have lots of problem with multiplayer, i'm still not too angry, because i didn't pay the full price. but i truely feel sorry for the other players who paid full price, but in no way could they enjoy the full game.

[Yes, I have a Mic.]

Dall cs.money eredeti hozzászólása:

unlucKY eredeti hozzászólása:

False bans happen once in a blue moon, at the start of 2016 I was banned, they made a mistake, reversed the ban, boom, had everything back. If you don't get unbanned within 2-3 days you obviously did something.

*start of 2016*
Now they dont unban.
No appeal.
Do not tell me "ITS OBVIOUS THEY UPGRADED THEIR ANTICHEAT"
No, its BS. There are still cheaters playing

Exactly right. The mods get updated. That means people who mod will wait after each GTA Online update until the mod is updated and its safe to play.
Ergo; most people who mod won't get caught.

[Kravence]

RaphielDrake eredeti hozzászólása:

¡¡►ᅟ𝒮𝓀𝓎𝑒ᅟ◄¡¡ eredeti hozzászólása:

Bans for nothing lawl.

You get banned for cheating, exploiting, or taking nodded money.

Accidents are an extremely rare case. Most of these pepile making these threads are just upset they got caught and want sympathy. Serve your ban and next time don't do it I say.

I haven't been banned once but I for one find it extremely believable that Rockstars algorithms are illicitly banning people.
Why else would they not be willing to share the exact nature of the offence?

For the same reason every other Dev team doesn't tell people.

Telling people what they were banned for only helps cheaters.

If they told people why they were getting banned there would be 10x as many cheaters as there is now.

[Sayron1Gamer]

ᴋʀᴀᴠᴇɴᴄᴇ eredeti hozzászólása:

RaphielDrake eredeti hozzászólása:

I haven't been banned once but I for one find it extremely believable that Rockstars algorithms are illicitly banning people.
Why else would they not be willing to share the exact nature of the offence?

For the same reason every other Dev team doesn't tell people.

Telling people what they were banned for only helps cheaters.

If they told people why they were getting banned there would be 10x as many cheaters as there is now.

If you say that you broke the ToS for cheating then what can they do? You don't give specific details on how they got banned (file detection or something), just say what part of the ToS did they break and leave it there. No information for any of the cheat programmers to go off of.

[Yes, I have a Mic.]

ᴋʀᴀᴠᴇɴᴄᴇ eredeti hozzászólása:

RaphielDrake eredeti hozzászólása:

I haven't been banned once but I for one find it extremely believable that Rockstars algorithms are illicitly banning people.
Why else would they not be willing to share the exact nature of the offence?

For the same reason every other Dev team doesn't tell people.

Telling people what they were banned for only helps cheaters.

If they told people why they were getting banned there would be 10x as many cheaters as there is now.

What? Cheaters more often than not know why they got banned. They spawn 5000 cars ontop of someone or they make themselves billionaires and they get banned the next day. That doesn't take much deduction.
But someone who doesn't cheat? They don't know why they've been banned. So they complain and rightfully so.
Then what do you have? You have a situation like this one; we know innocent people get banned but we can't tell who or why. *That* helps cheaters. Because now you're left with alienated customers who may as well have cheated anyway.

[Vazkulator]

RaphielDrake eredeti hozzászólása:

ᴋʀᴀᴠᴇɴᴄᴇ eredeti hozzászólása:

For the same reason every other Dev team doesn't tell people.

Telling people what they were banned for only helps cheaters.

If they told people why they were getting banned there would be 10x as many cheaters as there is now.

What? Cheaters more than not know why they got banned. They spawned 5000 cars ontop of someone and they are banned the next day. That doesn't take much deduction.
But someone who doesn't cheat? They don't know why they've been banned. So they complain and rightfully so.
Then what do you have? You have a situation like this one; we know innocent people get banned but we can't tell who or why. *That* helps cheaters. Because now you're left with alienated customers who may as well have cheated anyway.

so youre saying that someone who got banned will not pretend they didnt cheat ?
#believe2017
#yeswecan

[Ricco]

Pu..ssy N..igger What???

i will most likely get banned for that!!! :)

[suilles]

InsaneMystic eredeti hozzászólása:

No, by playing in a team with people who were better players, higher leveled, and better equipped than me.

Also, even Rockstar wouldn't be incompetent enough to ban you 100+ hours after you'd cheat in a survival mission.


Try harder. Next fanboy, please!

they would...
my friend took money of a modder and had like 500 hours got banned.
i kinda feel he should of been banned because taking it of a modder is just as bad as doing it yourself...

[Læms]

there is no false ban. get it right u cheat or mod and i get banned easy...

[Engi]

Lorekor (🇮🇸) eredeti hozzászólása:

there is no false ban. get it right u cheat or mod and i get banned easy...

okay fanboy. :^)

[Kravence]

RaphielDrake eredeti hozzászólása:

ᴋʀᴀᴠᴇɴᴄᴇ eredeti hozzászólása:

For the same reason every other Dev team doesn't tell people.

Telling people what they were banned for only helps cheaters.

If they told people why they were getting banned there would be 10x as many cheaters as there is now.

What? Cheaters more often than not know why they got banned. They spawn 5000 cars ontop of someone or they make themselves billionaires and they get banned the next day. That doesn't take much deduction.
But someone who doesn't cheat? They don't know why they've been banned. So they complain and rightfully so.
Then what do you have? You have a situation like this one; we know innocent people get banned but we can't tell who or why. *That* helps cheaters. Because now you're left with alienated customers who may as well have cheated anyway.

No, you missed my point.

If they then tell cheaters what is they were banned for, after they get unbanned, they can then continue using mod menu's etc which have been updated with the ban info. Also cheat devs will also be able to stop people from using cheats which have been detected till they have been updated to prevent people getting banned early.

It's the same reason why bans are also delayed, If you cheat now, you'll be banned in a few weeks or even a months time so you won't know what triggered it.

VAC does the same thing yet no one complains about that

[ShadowAngel]

ᴋʀᴀᴠᴇɴᴄᴇ eredeti hozzászólása:

VAC does the same thing yet no one complains about that

Lol, just look for "baned for nothing" in the CS:GO forum, it will lead you to about 2000 pages full of cheaters crying that they got banned for nothing. It's the same across all games, everywhere cheaters can't accept that they got caught and banned and proceed to whine, some of them are so pathetic that will spend months on end in the forum of the game saying stuff like "I don't even like the game, i have tons of better games to play but my ban was still unfair" and other idiotic stuff.

I mean hey Engi Desu is back, the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ that even flat out says he cheated in GTA Online before but still can't accept that he got rightfully banned for that.

[AwhThreeMandarins]

To all those saying "modders fly off the handle when caught because theyre guilty" etc i have evidence that thats not the case, i witnessed a modding friends reaction to getting banned and an innocent friends reaction to getting banned, the one who was modding wasnt really arsed the one who was innocent flew off the handle and then called rockstar for an explaination twice, both of which the person on the other end recited the email that was sent and asked if there was anything else he could help with after my friend replied "well no because i cant play the game because of the first problem so there isnt" they hung up abbruptly

[Sny_Vs_Spyper]

To anyone who calls everyone who complains about a faulty ban systewm in GTA:V, consider this:

Is GTA:V's banning system a bot? : Yes, that's one of the reasons you have such long loading times, it's scanning your entire game for any modifications of literally any sort. If GTA:V's banning system was mostly human staff checking it, then they'd allow people to repeal bans, or at the very least phone them up and get notified as to what they actually did wrong

Are bots 100% foolproof? : No, they're sets of algorythms designed to autonomously perform a task, in GTA:V's case that's to ban people with modifications or ban people who get reported, if you need examples of bots then just search 'Tay Chatbot'

Therefore, is GTA:V's banning system 100% foolproof? : No, it's a bot, and bots are inherently untrustworthy as they lack actual reasoning and logic behind them, they're a set of true/false yes/no x/y gates, they can be useful, sure, but they need human supervision(which there seems to be a total lack of on R*'s side with pretty much the entire process being automated)

If you still legitimately think that their banning bots are infallible and 100% accurate 100% of the time, then take a stroll through GTA:V for a day and tell me you haven't had run-ins with hackers, seriously...

Is it 100% inconcievable that a poorly-moderated ban bot on a game that has massive server issues to begin with can ban someone who is playing 100% legitimately?
Is it 100% inconcievable that if someone got banned whilst playing legitimately that they'd be angry and complain in a public domain?
Is it 100% inconcievable that they'd look up forums and discussions about the problem and then comment on those?
Is it 100% inconcievable that maybe some of the people who are complaining about being banned are actually right and did nothing wrong and are simply the victims of a company that wants as few staff actually monitoring and maintaining the bot as it concievably can to cut costs?
Is it 100% inconcievable that, since there's people who aren't being banned that actually do legimately deserve it(as is clearly evidenced by spending any time whatsoever in a public GTA:V session), that it could swing the other way and ban people who don't?

[Zombits]

Many times i watch streams at night for a few minutes. Last night the lady was proudly showing her 130M + account goofing around in freeroam. She admitted a modder gave her money. In her own little world she played ''fair''. Only a small example of everybody i see. probably she will be banned in the near future.

I played online for 400+ hours and never i came even close to get mod money, i dont look for it and i dont ask .... All those receiving it, sorry u probably looked for it and enjoy yo bans