GTA 6 Female Lead and Lack of Satire

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Any thoughts?

[Penjamin Danklin]

Messaggio originale di Maviba:

Messaggio originale di Regent:

I hope that Bonnie and Clyde crap isn't true. It was already done with CJ and Catalina in San Andreas. Would rather have 3 female protagonists like Charlies Angels.

It was also with calatlina and Claude in GTA 3. So it might become some sort of running gag.

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Yeah, that could be interesting if they used the existing gangs like Aztecas, Ballas and maybe the cartels. I don't expect much from Rockstar anymore though. The story is gonna be a rush job unfortunately. I read somewhere they abandoned a possible 4 player SP for this Bonnie and Clyde crap. Their online mode for GTA6 will probably have better storylines than the single player.

Yeah, it was cool in GTA 3 because of the betrayal and revenge story. I preferred the other GTA 6 rumor about 2 siblings on opposite sides of the law. At least that was more original.

Yeah, I was just using those gangs as examples since a lot of gangs have territories in other states, like the bloods and crips. I imagine the Lost MC would also be in Vice City too. Oh yeah, haitians would be great.

[Teratus]

Messaggio originale di Regent:

Yeah, it was cool in GTA 3 because of the betrayal and revenge story. I preferred the other GTA 6 rumor about 2 siblings on opposite sides of the law. At least that was more original.

That would also be a really cool concept to explore as well, specially if the "good" side of the law was also heavily corrupt which is something GTA has played with quite a bit in the past.

[Penjamin Danklin]

Messaggio originale di Teratus:

Messaggio originale di Regent:

Yeah, it was cool in GTA 3 because of the betrayal and revenge story. I preferred the other GTA 6 rumor about 2 siblings on opposite sides of the law. At least that was more original.

That would also be a really cool concept to explore as well, specially if the "good" side of the law was also heavily corrupt which is something GTA has played with quite a bit in the past.

Agreed. They could take inspiration from The Shield. Great show about crooked cops. That could be interesting. One of them a rookie cop in a corrupt task force and the other being the head of a cartel or something.

[GD44]

Messaggio originale di Infinite Pudding:

I'm excited for a female lead. I hated the trio in V. Not one redeeming personality trait amongst the three of them. It's really hard to enjoy a game when you hate the main characters so much.

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[Old Claim Jumper]

If it's written well, then I have no problem with it. All I care about in the single player GTA is the story. My favorite is GTA 4, with VC and SA being second and third. I don't really care for GTA 5 story, because R* started doing a very weird thing in GTA 5, which extended to Online.

What I mean is that R* decided to make protagonists of both GTA 5, and Online, good guys. The exception here is Trevor, who is just a psycho, mentally unstable guy. Michael and Franklin though are a different story. They are both forced to commit crimes. In case of Franklin it is Lamar, Simeon. For Michael it's the FIB guy, and Madrazo. Michael and Franklin both don't really want to commit crimes, they are made to do evil deeds to protect themselves.

As for GTA Online, in recent years we've had saving the world from apocalypse in the Doomsday Heist, We have Diamond Casino Heist, motivation for which is to stop the evil Duggan family from taking over. We have Cayo Perico, a.k.a. robbing an unhinged, evil cartel boss, we have the Agency business, where every Payphone Hit is preceeded by a long and tedious explanation of why we are actually the good guys, removing evil from Los Santos. And most recently we are actually working for the IAA, a government organization, as sworn operatives, being the obedient puppets of the state.

If GTA 6 is actually about being a criminal, and not another sob story for simpletons, like GTA 5 was, and the protagonists are interesting people, instead of paper cutouts running left and right, then I have absolutely no problem with the game having not one, but three female protagonists. I just want quality. They don't deliver quality, I'm not buying their game. Simple as.

[Obby]

Messaggio originale di Snarbles:

Messaggio originale di Infinite Pudding:

I'm excited for a female lead. I hated the trio in V. Not one redeeming personality trait amongst the three of them. It's really hard to enjoy a game when you hate the main characters so much.

a female lead is a redeeming quality

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[1MantisPhoenix]

I want three females all from different backgrounds trying nico bellic on America. That paradoxical American dream everyone claims to have. Lets see it from women's view.

[Dryspace]

Messaggio originale di Teratus:

Messaggio originale di Dryspace:

I understand if you're making a point about hypocrisy and double standards, but nobody should be censored or "banned" for making an obvious joke.

Completely agree.

Ironically also the real point of this whole discussion thread too :)

Yes, I was wondering if anyone would notice..

[Tahlavos17]

The playable Female aspect I don't mind as long as she is likable to the main audience, but bending the knee to jokes that made your company stand out in the form of Satire is BS. Why bend the knee to a group of people who will never pick up the game or have any interests in playing your game in the first place. I see it as the same mistake EA took when they released the Battlefield 1 where it was heavily pandered to people who don't play video games just for those who were rightfully concerned about the game only to be told if you don't like it don't buy it.

I strongly think that Rockstar is making a galactic sized mistake by removing the Satire from GTA VI. The Satire in the past GTA games is what made the games iconic and removing that aspect is going to hurt sales. It's like going to the Circus and not seeing the clowns that are there to make you laugh. The fact that Rockstar is going down this route is sad to say the least.

[WS| Knifey]

Obi wan Kanobi series was pretty popular even though the story focused mostly on Sister-Sister.

[finaljedi]

Messaggio originale di Tahlavos17:

The playable Female aspect I don't mind as long as she is likable to the main audience, but bending the knee to jokes that made your company stand out in the form of Satire is BS. Why bend the knee to a group of people who will never pick up the game or have any interests in playing your game in the first place. I see it as the same mistake EA took when they released the Battlefield 1 where it was heavily pandered to people who don't play video games just for those who were rightfully concerned about the game only to be told if you don't like it don't buy it.

I strongly think that Rockstar is making a galactic sized mistake by removing the Satire from GTA VI. The Satire in the past GTA games is what made the games iconic and removing that aspect is going to hurt sales. It's like going to the Circus and not seeing the clowns that are there to make you laugh. The fact that Rockstar is going down this route is sad to say the least.

Again, no indication they're removing satire from the games. That's a slippery slope assumption from the fact that they're probably not going to make gender expression the punchline.

[Iron Maiden]

Having a female character is fine, especially since you can play as a male character too. Will probably have forced sections where you play as one or the other though. But i'm ok. My main issue is the lack of "offensive" jokes and the like. Also the live service plan. Like yeah, you made RDR2, but you've had literal YEARS to make this game. It shouldn't need to be a live service type situation. Not to mention GTA Online 2 is just gonna be a bunch of microtransaction BS to make money and be grindy as hell. It started to show once they removed the transgender and crossdresser NPCs from GTA V expanded and enhanced. I'm not even sure if they still can spawn on the PC and 8th gen versions when in singleplayer. Either way they are digging themselves a grave. Offensive humor and satire is what MAKES gta so good. The series as a whole walks a perfect line between being edgy and comically genius. But we can only hope for the best for GTA 6

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Messaggio originale di Old Claim Jumper:

What I mean is that R* decided to make protagonists of both GTA 5, and Online, good guys. The exception here is Trevor, who is just a psycho, mentally unstable guy. Michael and Franklin though are a different story. They are both forced to commit crimes. In case of Franklin it is Lamar, Simeon. For Michael it's the FIB guy, and Madrazo. Michael and Franklin both don't really want to commit crimes, they are made to do evil deeds to protect themselves.

Ohh I dunno about that.. I wouldn't say Michael and Franklin are good people.
You could probably say, selfish, greedy and morally grey at best maybe since they do often complain about ♥♥♥♥ getting to out of hand.. though they still go along with it reluctantly.
Both kill and steal for their own self interests and they both choose to take the criminal path over the decent one long before the events of the game start off too.

Mike was a retired bank robber and Frank was a small time car thief who occasionally held up stores at gunpoint if I remember right.
So yeah, not really good guys although it's understandable why some may think that when you compare them to Trevor who is just chaos and degeneracy incarnate lol

I can't speak for the online though, I never played nor had any interest in GTA5 online.
So I would just write everything in the online off as non important/non canon to anything in the franchise's main single play story's.

[Nym™]

I don't really care about the character as long as they keep the level of character depth and development we have been used to. The lack of satire though... that will make it not a gta game. Gta4 is a dark and serious game and even that has satire. And it's still gta in its DNA. Proof that you can mix things up. But don't ♥♥♥♥ with the main formula.

[Teratus]

Messaggio originale di Nym™:

I don't really care about the character as long as they keep the level of character depth and development we have been used to. The lack of satire though... that will make it not a gta game. Gta4 is a dark and serious game and even that has satire. And it's still gta in its DNA. Proof that you can mix things up. But don't ♥♥♥♥ with the main formula.

GTA4 is probably my personal favourite as well.
Probably the closest GTA got to realism with gun and especially car mechanics.
I remember being pretty upset when I played GTA5 the first time and noticed how comically cartoony the car's felt compared to 4.

If GTA6 is going to mimic 4 in terms of seriousness and satire quality then honestly we have nothing to worry about on that front.
Until R* confirm or deny that though I expect people to continue complaining about "wokeness" etc and fighting over it.