Defend Business... not following it's own rules?

[zOldBulldog]

Is the message "Defend Business" supposed to represent a raid? Or am I misunderstanding it?

This just happened:
1) My Cocaine business was at 30%. So, it should not have been raided
2) I had been doing agency contracts and had just finished one. So the 5 hour timer was not reached.
3) I receive the message and I am directed to a hotel to recover my stuff. It turns out to be a "testament", whatever that is.

I beat it, but what in the world was that? Is the game no longer following the rules about raids?

[in]

Sounds like you identified that 30% visually. Treshold for coke lab with security upgrade is 112k (32%), so probably it was past it.

[zOldBulldog]

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Sounds like you identified that 30% visually. Treshold for coke lab with security upgrade is 112k (32%), so probably it was past it.

That is weird that it is only 32% when most businesses are a little over half, but you are probably right on that one.

Anyway, what about the time condition? I had literally been in constant missions, and the last one completed seconds before. The raids are only supposed to hit if you are freeroaming for too long, which I certainly wasn't.

This is an important matter... since if raids are going to happen no matter what people are going to have to significantly change how they play. For example, I was kind of tired of Cayo and was going to count on MC businesses resupplied from Arcade for my cash (with the full sale of Cocaine/Meth/Cash with my crew), so that I could do other missions/jobs/contracts that don't pay as much while waiting. Now I am questioning that plan.

[in]

With security upgrades all MC labs get raided at 32% and above except document forgery, which has threshold of 54%. But document forgery is a joke regardless.

Timers are (with security upgrades again) 6 hours for coke, 8 meth, 10 money, 12 weed, 14 docs.

However take note that these timers never reset. And they keep ticking up and up each time you are above that threshold. It doesn't matter how long you freeroam at any given time. For example your raid timer for coke lab can already be 5 hours 59 minutes and you obviously don't know it. The moment your lab's product goes above threshold, you will get raided within one minute. Which could be within one minute from you joining the session as well.

This is one of the reasons why MC businesses suck. It's a lot of micromanagement with not that great profits. It's better to stick to other businesses where raids can be completely bypassed. And they even earn more.

[zOldBulldog]

in původně napsal:

With security upgrades all MC labs get raided at 32% and above except document forgery, which has threshold of 54%. But document forgery is a joke regardless.

Timers are (with security upgrades again) 6 hours for coke, 8 meth, 10 money, 12 weed, 14 docs.

However take note that these timers never reset. And they keep ticking up and up each time you are above that threshold. It doesn't matter how long you freeroam at any given time. For example your raid timer for coke lab can already be 5 hours 59 minutes and you obviously don't know it. The moment your lab's product goes above threshold, you will get raided within one minute. Which could be within one minute from you joining the session as well.

This is one of the reasons why MC businesses suck. It's a lot of micromanagement with not that great profits. It's better to stick to other businesses where raids can be completely bypassed. And they even earn more.

So, empty MC and crate warehouses and leave them so, earning passive income at the Nightclub.

Same for warehouses unless you plan to actively source them with the terrorbyte.

So what's left that is worth doing without raids? Bunker and Agency?

[in]

From businesses I/E might be alright.

[Kiwi {JESUS IS LORD}]

in původně napsal:

From businesses I/E might be alright.

also special cargo

[luZk]

The cutoff point for no raids is 20% stock for MC businesses.