Grand Theft Auto V Legacy

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Morpheus Oct 21, 2017 @ 8:27am
FIVEM - It isn't a game mod ! Why is everyone so hostile towards it
FiveM doesn't modify the games files, nor does it use the standard GTA Launcher.
I don't get why everyone is hostile towards it. Additions like Fivem are what upsell the games for rockstar. It also encourages console players to purchase on PC. Hence more sales !

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[-iD-] Oct 21, 2017 @ 8:29am 
because its an unauthorized multiplayer service and take2 could sue you for running a server for it.
Morpheus Oct 21, 2017 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by -iD-:
because its an unauthorized multiplayer service and take2 could sue you for running a server for it.

They "could" sue , i think from a brand perspective - they would look so silly in the courts by sueing someone for enjoying their game in a different way. It doesn't detriment what they offer, nor does it affect any players experience. The only real reason i can see behind it, is that they are being greedy, want everyone on GTA Online so that players are more tempted to buy Shark Cards to line Rockstars profits. Which is total BULL
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[-iD-] Oct 21, 2017 @ 8:34am 
they threatened openiv so it isn't really above them to do it.
Morpheus Oct 21, 2017 @ 8:37am 
Originally posted by -iD-:
they threatened openiv so it isn't really above them to do it.

OpenIV is a bigger operation than a few fivem servers. But i get where you are coming from. I see things between OpenIV and Rockstar now are sorted. But i know they had a hissy fit over porting the San Andreas map to GTA V
SparkEE-1 Oct 21, 2017 @ 8:49am 
Because FIveM is a blatant violation of Intelectual Property laws. FiveM has taken Rockstar's game, added some code of their own, and created an online game that is in competition with Rockstar, without their permission. And while it might help to promote sales of the base game, it does not help Rockstar in the sale of their Shark Cards, which is their continuing revenue stream.
Ragnarr Loðbrók Oct 21, 2017 @ 9:07am 
Originally posted by SparkEE-1:
Because FIveM is a blatant violation of Intelectual Property laws. FiveM has taken Rockstar's game, added some code of their own, and created an online game that is in competition with Rockstar, without their permission. And while it might help to promote sales of the base game, it does not help Rockstar in the sale of their Shark Cards, which is their continuing revenue stream.
In short words, rockstar doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about gamers (who made rockstar big by buying their products), but gives only a ♥♥♥♥ for their shareholders.
If sharkcards&shareholders wouldn't be, rockstar would probably don't even care about it.
Bad bad day for gamers.
Good day for shareholders.

Originally posted by Morpheus:
FiveM doesn't modify the games files, nor does it use the standard GTA Launcher.
I don't get why everyone is hostile towards it. Additions like Fivem are what upsell the games for rockstar. It also encourages console players to purchase on PC. Hence more sales !
Sshhhh! Don't tell such stuff. Capitalists don't like these thoughts they only care for money, and money justifies everything! Even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the own planet ;)
Rockstar just want to sell as many sharkcards as possible to satisfy the shareholders.
Thats why they needed to do a step against FiveM

ANother thing just proves to me to not buy anymore rockstar products regardless of how good they might be and are.
If you really care about gaming , you won't support such behaviours that will have a negative effect on the long term for gamers.

And FiveM regardless of the actual development state, was something that was good for gamers. Cause it added something, which rockstar would never care about it. Since they primary focus is to achieve money via updates and content to sell sharkcards.

Wasted potential and why? Just because of money.

FiveM could have increased the Product sell on the long term, but on the short term it would cost alot of potential sharkcards buyers.
Every single player on FiveM is 1 less player on official servers which leads into 1 less potential sharkcard buyer.
And this is a no-go for low risk/high profit-orientated companies sadly.... there mostly care only for short term everything must be quick.
and the most saddest part is when people (gamers) try to defend rockstars behaviour just because of the law, the right and the money. They have absolutly no clue how devastating this is on the long term for us gamers.
And those gamers are blindly supporting this in many ways.
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[DFS] JakHamma Oct 21, 2017 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by -iD-:
they threatened openiv so it isn't really above them to do it.
And where did that get them? They pull that kinda ♥♥♥♥ with FiveM they're never gonna forget it.
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AshHill07 Oct 21, 2017 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by DFS JakTheRipper:
Originally posted by -iD-:
they threatened openiv so it isn't really above them to do it.
And where did that get them? They pull that kinda ♥♥♥♥ with FiveM they're never gonna forget it.
They already tried, they backed off when they realized if they took it to court they might loose.
[-iD-] Oct 21, 2017 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by AshHill07:
Originally posted by DFS JakTheRipper:
And where did that get them? They pull that kinda ♥♥♥♥ with FiveM they're never gonna forget it.
They already tried, they backed off when they realized if they took it to court they might loose.
is that why the lawsuit warning is from earlier this year?
AshHill07 Oct 21, 2017 @ 10:41am 
Originally posted by -iD-:
Originally posted by AshHill07:
They already tried, they backed off when they realized if they took it to court they might loose.
is that why the lawsuit warning is from earlier this year?
It was 2 years ago. Not 1. And they haven't "Cease and Desisted" in the slightest.
If they were actually doing something illegal, don't you think they would have done a bit more than nothing by now?
And if legal proceedings were taking place behind closed doors, FiveM wouldn't still be getting updated.

In fact, a lack of activity for so long would count against them in court by this point.
[-iD-] Oct 21, 2017 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by AshHill07:
Originally posted by -iD-:
is that why the lawsuit warning is from earlier this year?
It was 2 years ago. Not 1. And they haven't "Cease and Desisted" in the slightest.
If they were actually doing something illegal, don't you think they would have done a bit more than nothing by now?
And if legal proceedings were taking place behind closed doors, FiveM wouldn't still be getting updated.

In fact, a lack of activity for so long would count against them in court by this point.
right two years ago they went after fivem's creators with PI's.
Then earlier this year they sent out a new lawsuit warning.
https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004754228-I-found-an-unofficial-GTA-multiplayer-server-Will-I-get-in-trouble-for-playing-on-or-hosting-one-of-these-servers-
UpdatedMarch 24, 2017
AshHill07 Oct 21, 2017 @ 10:55am 
Originally posted by -iD-:
Originally posted by AshHill07:
It was 2 years ago. Not 1. And they haven't "Cease and Desisted" in the slightest.
If they were actually doing something illegal, don't you think they would have done a bit more than nothing by now?
And if legal proceedings were taking place behind closed doors, FiveM wouldn't still be getting updated.

In fact, a lack of activity for so long would count against them in court by this point.
right two years ago they went after fivem's creators with PI's.
Then earlier this year they sent out a new lawsuit warning.
https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004754228-I-found-an-unofficial-GTA-multiplayer-server-Will-I-get-in-trouble-for-playing-on-or-hosting-one-of-these-servers-
UpdatedMarch 24, 2017
That's not a lawsuit warning to FiveM, that's just another general threat to everyone.

In 2 years they have done NOTHING to actually act on their threat of a lawsuit to FiveM.
If this did end up going to court, the Judge would be asking why the hell they sat on this for 2 years if it was such a problem, that alone might get it thrown out immediately.
[-iD-] Oct 21, 2017 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by AshHill07:
Originally posted by -iD-:
right two years ago they went after fivem's creators with PI's.
Then earlier this year they sent out a new lawsuit warning.
https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004754228-I-found-an-unofficial-GTA-multiplayer-server-Will-I-get-in-trouble-for-playing-on-or-hosting-one-of-these-servers-
UpdatedMarch 24, 2017
That's not a lawsuit warning to FiveM, that's just another general threat to everyone.

In 2 years they have done NOTHING to actually act on their threat of a lawsuit to FiveM.
If this did end up going to court, the Judge would be asking why the hell they sat on this for 2 years if it was such a problem, that alone might get it thrown out immediately.
lol because there are so many multiplayer services. Right?
Terminator01 Oct 21, 2017 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Morpheus:
Originally posted by -iD-:
because its an unauthorized multiplayer service and take2 could sue you for running a server for it.

They "could" sue , i think from a brand perspective - they would look so silly in the courts by sueing someone for enjoying their game in a different way. It doesn't detriment what they offer, nor does it affect any players experience. The only real reason i can see behind it, is that they are being greedy, want everyone on GTA Online so that players are more tempted to buy Shark Cards to line Rockstars profits. Which is total BULL


Not here to defend R* politics. But with the installation of the game, you agreed that you are not violating their rules they set. And playing on these servers is simply not allowed, see the link in the post above me.

So R* has all the rights to ban your account.
<dUmB>Armageddon Oct 21, 2017 @ 11:01am 
I think the hostility goes to wrong adress. It should not be to the ones using this but towards Rockstar not making more multiplayer options or giving a crap of story mode.

Not all want to play on social club sessiuons where all people seem to do is seek out new players to kill, the online side is not very immersive so if there is a way to run different kind of game that feel sbetter than what Rockstar provides, people do it. Many also do the "bad connection" trick to play solo on online session, many of those would be happy of non PVP server provided by Rockstar. Sinleplayer would also have huge opportunities for custom made characters with expansions added like in online. People played Sims 2 for years and still fdo because it was well maintained and had much to do in immersive way that was not interrupted by bad behaviour of other players.

We are not here for Rockstar, we are Rockstars customers and they should make even bettergames with more options so people could concentrate on playing instead of modding.
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