If you use mods, you're ruining this game.

[Pizza Arrabbiata (っ˘ڡ˘ς)]

For every "good" person with a mod menu there are 20 who grief and troll. There's only so many times I will launch this game and waste my time dying and losing in-game currency to cheaters.

Why even play? Doesn't matter what I'm doing on GTA Online, even if I group up with someone. Some no life cheater comes along in god mode and blows us up or aimbots us over and over.

GTA VI better be on dedicated servers. I understand cheating is part of gaming in general. But I have never seen a game so rife with cheaters.

[Hangry Henrys]

There is no good person in gta ...you get killed even by normal players
Also go in invite only session or public solo session

[Pizza Arrabbiata (っ˘ڡ˘ς)]

Originally posted by 🐍Torque🐍:

There is no good person in gta ...you get killed even by normal players
Also go in invite only session or public solo session

Cheaters. Shouldn't even play with them, you can't do anything.

The random "normal" players you mention I can atleast have a chance at fighting with, it's fair play.

What's fair about cheating? You probably cheat yourself.

[Hangry Henrys]

Originally posted by Pizza Arrabbiata:

Originally posted by 🐍Torque🐍:

There is no good person in gta ...you get killed even by normal players
Also go in invite only session or public solo session

Cheaters. Shouldn't even play with them, you can't do anything.

The random "normal" players you mention I can atleast have a chance at fighting with, it's fair play.

What's fair about cheating? You probably cheat yourself.

So you assume i am a cheater?....how do u even know i am a cheater in the first place

[Joe Cool]

Originally posted by Pizza Arrabbiata:

I have never seen a game so rife with cheaters.

That's because no game has ever been designed to be as accessible and open towards cheating. Rockstar really hit on the perfect moneymaking strategy here.

Step 1) Create game that is extremely friendly towards hacking/cheating
Step 2) Toss out the occasional "ban wave" to catch only the most blatantly obvious offenders.
Step 3) Rake in extra profit as a large % of those banned players purchase new copies to continue cheating on new accounts.


The simple fact that the cheats for GTA are the first ones in gaming history to be labeled as "mod menu's" is quite suspicious when you consider that it's ONLY the AAA developers who have an interest in demonizing all modding.


It's also worth noting that many of the cheat menu's for GTA online do not modify any game files whatsoever... meaning they are technically "hacks" not "mods" and getting rid of modding will have little to no impact on the number of cheaters in-game.

[Pizza Arrabbiata (っ˘ڡ˘ς)]

Originally posted by 🐍Torque🐍:

Originally posted by Pizza Arrabbiata:

Cheaters. Shouldn't even play with them, you can't do anything.

The random "normal" players you mention I can atleast have a chance at fighting with, it's fair play.

What's fair about cheating? You probably cheat yourself.

So you assume i am a cheater?....how do u even know i am a cheater in the first place

BECAUSE HALF THE GODAMN PLAYERBASE CHEATS. It's like ASSUMING YOU HAVE TWO LEGS BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY DO.

[Pizza Arrabbiata (っ˘ڡ˘ς)]

Originally posted by Joe Cool:

Originally posted by Pizza Arrabbiata:

I have never seen a game so rife with cheaters.

That's because no game has ever been designed to be as accessible and open towards cheating. Rockstar really hit on the perfect moneymaking strategy here.

Step 1) Create game that is extremely friendly towards hacking/cheating
Step 2) Toss out the occasional "ban wave" to catch only the most blatantly obvious offenders.
Step 3) Rake in extra profit as a large % of those banned players purchase new copies to continue cheating on new accounts.


The simple fact that the cheats for GTA are the first ones in gaming history to be labeled as "mod menu's" is quite suspicious when you consider that it's ONLY the AAA developers who have an interest in demonizing all modding.


It's also worth noting that many of the cheat menu's for GTA online do not modify any game files whatsoever... meaning they are technically "hacks" not "mods" and getting rid of modding will have little to no impact on the number of cheaters in-game.

Never thought of that, similar thing occurs on Call of Duty Warzone, it's a F2P game but I can see people making new accounts post-ban and it leading to revenue.

And straight up, they're not even mods. I think calling a cheater by the name hacker or modder is practically a compliment, it denotes some sort of technical expertise. When the reality is it's so easy young children can download and install one.

[Paprika]

playing for five years. never cheated, never killed on sight, never sweared, never griefed on someone. just play with nice people, or stay in passive mode, or try to get in empty public session.

[Killzone]

Played more than I should have, Constantly caged, booted, exploded, annoyed. Worthless game by a worthless virtue signaling dev.

/my opinion

[Level 9 CPU]

I will tell you something that may make it slightly easier to deal with your past experience but you are in fact right they are ruining the game.

They are all sad, pathetic losers, who are spending sometimes triple the price of this game at launch every patch for their mod menus. If they're caging you or controlling you or any of the super destructive mods.

Pity them. they spent their food money on a mod menu to troll in GTA. They will be pissing in cans and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in buckets as they jerk it to you screaming about them being evil.

Just like any worthless bully they pride themselves on this type of post. I can assure you there are dozens of them who just nutted to your post.

Instead of being mad at them I ask them if they need help. Ask if they have some unresolved mental health issues that need to be talked about. Was it their Ex girlfriend or boyfriend? Their parents? An actual bully IRL who beats them?

I will quote the youtuber Atomic Shrimp "Do not respond to this behavior in kind but with Righteous indignation."

[RageMojo]

It might help things if people would stop conflating the word mod with cheater. Every time you complain about "mods" in Online, Take Two brainwashes a couple more consumers and all this crap continues.

[Level 9 CPU]

Originally posted by RageMojo:

It might help things if people would stop conflating the word mod with cheater. Every time you complain about "mods" in Online, Take Two brainwashes a couple more consumers and all this crap continues.

this is stupid. Most people who are falling victim to these people don't know or care what they're called. Mod, Cheat, hack, whatever. If you're using it to harm others you're a POS. I see the sites selling these using all 3 of those interchangeably. so if the people making them can't agree what they'er called why should we care? We all know what we're talking about here so your just posting this to be a pissy tech nerd.

[JobeGardener]

Blame it on Social Media, the "Hollywood for hipsters".

[Jon the VGNerd]

Originally posted by Paprika:

playing for five years. never cheated, never killed on sight, never sweared, never griefed on someone. just play with nice people, or stay in passive mode, or try to get in empty public session.

There is still a possibility that you can still get banned, even by obviously not cheating either. And GTA Online is just a lost cause anyway. And players with mod menu can very easily kill you, even while still in passive mode.

[RageMojo]

Originally posted by Spiral of Madness:

Originally posted by RageMojo:

It might help things if people would stop conflating the word mod with cheater. Every time you complain about "mods" in Online, Take Two brainwashes a couple more consumers and all this crap continues.

this is stupid. Most people who are falling victim to these people don't know or care what they're called. Mod, Cheat, hack, whatever. If you're using it to harm others you're a POS. I see the sites selling these using all 3 of those interchangeably. so if the people making them can't agree what they'er called why should we care? We all know what we're talking about here so your just posting this to be a pissy tech nerd.

Way to fall for Take Two's marketing campaign, simply genius.

This was a concerted effort by take two to conflate the words. and it worked on thousands of idiots.

Words have meaning and they do matter. A car and boat are both motorized vehicles, do you call a car a boat or a boat a car? No you dont because they are different things despite their similarities. Its not a pissy tech nerd issue, its a corporate brainwashing issue, that is working well so far.

[Level 9 CPU]

Originally posted by RageMojo:

Originally posted by Spiral of Madness:

this is stupid. Most people who are falling victim to these people don't know or care what they're called. Mod, Cheat, hack, whatever. If you're using it to harm others you're a POS. I see the sites selling these using all 3 of those interchangeably. so if the people making them can't agree what they'er called why should we care? We all know what we're talking about here so your just posting this to be a pissy tech nerd.

Way to fall for Take Two's marketing campaign, simply genius.

This was a concerted effort by take two to conflate the words. and it worked on thousands of idiots.

Words have meaning and they do matter. A car and boat are both motorized vehicles, do you call a car a boat or a boat a car? No you dont because they are different things despite their similarities. Its not a pissy tech nerd issue, its a corporate brainwashing issue, that is working well so far.

No. Straight up no. Modding single player is fine. Modding to play a RP server is fine. Modding to ruin others lives online is not. Hacking requires modding the game. It's just as valid unlike your comparison. Mods are needed to hack.