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Eclipse RP: The Worst Role Play Server In The History Of GTAV
DISCLAIMER: I AM POSTING THIS HERE INSTEAD OF ON RAGE/ECLIPSE FORUMS SO HOPEFULLY NEW PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PLAY RP WILL BE CONVINCED NOT GO TO ECLIPSE. ALSO, I AM NOT RAGE QUITING. THIS IS LIKE GENERAL LEGIT INFORMATION FROM ME.

Introduction
Before we begin, let me state that yes: this is all my opinion. Throughout the report I do give facts about the server but ultimately me not recommending it is just my opinion. Play it if you really want to. Anyway, it all started a few months back when I decided to join it because I wanted to try something new. RP seemed fun so I joined eclipse. I passed their little quiz and got in. Right away I noticed there were some different menu features and game mechanics, which were extremely difficult to figure out at first as there was no guide and since everybody I saw was "in character" nobody would just tell me how to do it. I eventually figured it out and it was all good. I played peacefully on the server for a few months, learning how to RP in situations. Most of those situations was me getting robbed, which I will rant about later on. I was able to get one of the faction jobs as a Mechanic on the forums. It payed me the best money I have earned on the server however it was a salary based on real hours, so it sucked. I soon quit that because the lowest rank mechanic's job was basically standing around doing nothing (they would never promote even the best of us). I then started my life of crime, I joined the "ballas" gang thinking I would make a fortune. Made 0 money as there were no set rules for group robbing and other projects. Stupid. I eventually got so bored of it so I just started trolling with a work bus which ended up getting me banned. Again, I am going to explain all of this in the next section, this is not a rage post because I got banned. I was bored of the server, and here's why.

Reason 1: Money

The way money works is absolute garbage in eclipse RP. It ruins the whole point of role play. When you first join the server, you start with a small base amount of $7000 and you get a slow income of $5000 from the "government". There are "freelance jobs" which are the basic minimum wage jobs that players can get without applying. Quite frankly, those jobs are more fun than the actual faction jobs. Other than that, without applying for a faction job (which all have very very strict applications, by the way), the only half decent way of making money is by making drugs. Making drugs is also very difficult, which I will explain later. It just seems like the overall goal is to make money. Which interferes with the RP aspect. Here's proof: During my time, myself and many others constantly got robbed by small gangs. Here's the thing: Eclipse's goal is to make the server as realistic as possible (which is why factions go by real hours of pay). In my opinion, the mass amount of robbers there are on the streets is very unrealistic. In the server, one of the rules is called "Fear RP" which basically means you have to fear for your life in situations (ex: You cant run straight into a gun). I honesty think for all of the robbers on the server, they would be too scared to rob somebody in real life, so that already brakes fear RP. That is why there are so many of them, and it just ruins the game for others because in the end, those robbers just want to make money and be rich as well. I mean heck, If you go the bank (A no crime zone that is basically the hub of the server), all people do there is flex their cars and look rich. Did I also mention that there are very few house properties for sale and they are all very inflated because people are so desperate? It destroys the whole point of RP in my opinion. Think of it this way: Eclipse RP is literally just regular GTAV Online with strict rules. Mind blown. It's so true. Regular GTAV online is literally just about making money. In other RP servers, it is not about money. in DOJ RP for example, you get to pick your role and your financial status, which eliminates the money making temptations for many players. This is how it should be for Eclipse.

Reason 2: The Roles

I have to give Eclipse RP some credit where it is due. They do a good job keeping certain things realistic like hiding drug locations on the real web, and their recipes. They also do a good job with the auction style car markets, where players can make investments and try to climb in money (again though, with the whole money thing). Eclipse has some good features to it, don't get me wrong. However, the roles are super off balanced. As i mentioned earlier, there are so many criminals on the street, which means there are so little police and paramedics. This is a big problem because one of the good things about the server is you can call 911 at any time in an emergency. But the bad thing is that the response time is so bad because they have very little online. Why? The applications and training process! It is garbage! I understand the realistic part, but why??? Here is a great example of this. When I applied to work at Los Santos Customs, the first step was to fill out this long ♥♥♥ application. I passed that. Then, you have to set up a real time interview with a manager. I did that, set my time, got online, the manager wasn't even there. I found him later and he told me to come back in 3 real hours. So I did. I finally got the job after almost a week of waiting. Then, I had to get trained to work on my own which was like an hour and a half. I did that. Huzzah I am now a mechanic. Not really. Remember when I said that they rarely ever promote people, even the ones that deserve it? Yeah. I was ranked "recruit" when I joined, along with possibly one hundred others. I instantly noticed that the complaint from others was that there were tons of recruits and little trainers or managers. There were also no towers. (A tower is a higher ranked mechanic that is allowed to tow). This was a huge problem because the main function of the mechanic was to tow vehicles. There was a crazy high demand. We would get tons of requests for tows and nobody could tow. An admin came multiple times asking us If anybody could tow and we were like "sorry man". I was really hoping I could just get insta-promoted by the admin. Didn't get that though. Basically, you get the point. There isn't enough workforce vs. criminals because everything is way too strict and hard to get into because they try to be too realistic. Just my opinion though.

Reason 3: The 'Realistic' Part'

This drives me nuts. This is some new info with also a lot of review and it also kind of sums up everything. I get it. It is cool that they want to make it realistic but I think it is too much. The fact that the only way to get good money would be making tons of drugs (which was difficult without being in a gang) or working countless real time hours as a faction member is ridiculous. Guys, it is a video game. Some people may have the time but I am not going to sit there as a mechanic or a police officer for tons of real hours a day like it is a real job. It is a video game. There are all of the RP rules to help try and enforce that but it is all kinda bogus. There is a rule called "powergaming" which basically bans anybody from using unrealistic RP actions such as *starts flying away from the robber and *Uses crazy reaction speed to catch bullet. I get that. It is a good rule but people abuse it a bunch. If I was getting robbed, they would basically make sure they would "win" the situation no matter what (also not the point of RP). Its hard, but its very possible to RP your way out of getting robbed without powergaming. But, if something doesn't go their way, they just claim "HES POWERGAMING!!! REPORT!!". Kinda bogus in my opinion. There are tons of other situations where this can happen. It is just all no fun in the end.

The Conclusion

Basically, here is why I got banned: I got bored. (one more time, not a rage post. I got banned a couple months before writing this. Don't get the wrong idea) I was literally driving a work bus around and crashing into gangs for the hell of it. I was so bored of the game. Because of everything I just explained, all you ever do on Eclipse RP is the same thing over and over. You do your way of getting money, maybe you get robbed, maybe you don't. It can be rewarding in the end but the issue is it takes too much real time to do and its all just a big competition for who makes the most money in the game which breaks the RP aspect. I am glad I don't play Eclipse RP anymore. Thanks for reading.

feel free to drop some comments, lets have a discussion! I know this is just for regular GTAV but I think RP on rage multiplayer servers and others are fair game too.

To Mods: Lock this if you want but please do not delete. It is a fair opinion and should be out there for people considering what RP server to play. Thanks.







Последно редактиран от Log; 30 март 2020 в 9:46
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So What servers are you recommending ?
I'm looking for a server with good rules and worth the time
true that eclipse is s h i t a f
Първоначално публикувано от DFS JakHamma:
inb4 ID
am i supposed to say something now?
If they only had Bogdan ....
jobs and scripts are cool in rp, but the rules are so stupid, does anyone knows a server with those systems but without rp boring rules?
I player Eclips in 2018, believe me it was way worse.

Since 4 days ago I player again. They add few more jobs and others stuff. But in the timeline of 2 years it's not so much.

They punish criminal really hard and as a criminal its low reward high risk, not worth it. And 9 of 10 criminal don't rp pr are really bad at it or don't know the rules. They use alot of fearRP. You point a gun at them first. And they Just pull there gun out and start shooting. If you disagree with the sitiation you van Go to the forum and go to a long ass progress filling ♥♥♥♥ in and proof that you are right.

The house prices got out of hand. Thank god I still had my house that I bought for 200k it's now more than a 1 mill worth for some reason. Same goes for weapons a pistol like the 50. I still have 20 of those when I was in a gang. Bought Them in 2018 for 1,500. Now they are around 15k. Overall the different jobs are so unbalanced, with pay and how active you need to be. Alot of people are Just grinding money and don't really rp.... I have fun on this server because I search for player who do rp and are good at it.

Just a quick update on the robbing. You can't rob in populated areas, like stores, clothing stores. And if they rob you, they need a lesser car and a rp reason. At the moment I got 0 robbed. One tried I was able to call a admin on time and the guy got banned. Because he had multiple warnings. Eclips tries there best but they are really slow with it. Personally I dont like the OC forum to aply for something, gun license or official work. It's a big of a drag.

For me Eclips is fun with a few Friends. Alone is a drag and annoying . People can try maffia rp it has only voice. So you need a mic.
this all sounds really bizarre. And dumb.
Tbh most people play RP servers like it's GTAO anyway so Eclipse should be killing it.
Came across this review because I've been having some desire to get back into GTA RP and I was curious if Eclipse has improved at all. Sadly, it looks like it hasn't.

I used to be a Paramedic on Eclipse.I joined the Paramedics because I was one of those players who didn't like how there was never a response, so I wanted to be the guy who responded to things at as many hours as I could manage. It earned me a pretty positive rep on the server, but sadly... things happened.

As you said in your review: the game is not very newbie friendly. They have a rule that states when you reach 1000 experience (takes a few hours), then robbers can rob you. When I encountered my first robbers, I had no idea how to kneel or to do any of the things they were asking me to do. I tried asking in OOC (out-of-character) and they got angry and told me to stop using OOC. I was panicking in real life because I didn't know what to do, and since they weren't willing to help a new player, I was just like "omg I'm going to die because I'm not allowed to ask for help." It was a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ situation to be in. Apparently the robbers just assume that the moment you reach 1000 experience, you must have been robbed at least once and therefore you're a pro at the game. It's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing to do, and frankly, I was half tempted to make an alt just to lure people into a trap and get them in trouble with this... but I realized that wouldn't help anything, so I decided not to.

So if you join Eclipse, join under the impression you're going to get your character killed a lot, so don't carry anything important on you. Guns, food, whatever. Just plan to die.

I mean hell, sometimes I would get bored and just go out for a jog, and I would make sure to have zero money with me, zero objects, zero anything. People would come up to rob me, realize my pockets were empty, and leave. I even got a few muffled "what the f***?" responses in voice.

Anyway... I enjoyed my time as a Paramedic for the most part. The people were cool, but the patients were often problematic. People treated Paramedics like they were robots, and asked for 'rez' rather than giving us any kind of RP. Paramedics were RPers too and we wanted to do our medical RP. But instead of participating, people just gave us yes/no RP instead of doing something like "I'VE BEEN SHOT AND I'M WRITHING IN PAIN!" So it got to be kind of like working a salary job for people who don't appreciate you. Why did I keep doing it? Because I wanted others to be able to play the game and have fun, so having a character in a position where I could help? It allowed me to do that, and I felt good to help those people. Even if they'd turn around and rob me later.

The reason I left the server is because the admins decided to take a Paramedic dropout / failure (he failed the tests / didn't like how we did our RP) and promoted him to leader of the medical department. It was a huge, huuuge powergame / metagame move that pissed off everyone in the medical department. Those who stayed reported that he was joyriding around with fire trucks and other vehicles that in-character you would never see a medical professional doing. Most of the medical staff quit the server after that move, as we weren't keen on working with someone who was promoted via an OOC administrative decision rather than any actual IC work like the rest of us had been putting in for months. He was promoted because he was a friend of the admin. That favoritism is absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and admins should know better than to do stuff like that.

Been a little over a year since I last played. Honestly I just want to play GTA and drive a truck around (tanker truck, depositing fuel, that sort of thing). Eclipse was the most accessible option I know of for that because it'd let me do it and limit my interaction with others... but sadly, I'd be on Eclipse and at the mercy of the obnoxious robbers.

Did some google searching to see if there were any decent, accurate reviews of Eclipse and this one, while a few months old, sadly shows that not much has changed.

Sorry matey. If the ♥♥♥♥ that happened with the Paramedics didn't happen, I might've still been around to get you up off the ground... but yeah. Things happened.
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As you said in your review: the game is not very newbie friendly. They have a rule that states when you reach 1000 experience (takes a few hours), then robbers can rob you. When I encountered my first robbers, I had no idea how to kneel or to do any of the things they were asking me to do. I tried asking in OOC (out-of-character) and they got angry and told me to stop using OOC. I was panicking in real life because I didn't know what to do, and since they weren't willing to help a new player, I was just like "omg I'm going to die because I'm not allowed to ask for help." It was a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ situation to be in. Apparently the robbers just assume that the moment you reach 1000 experience, you must have been robbed at least once and therefore you're a pro at the game. It's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing to do, and frankly, I was half tempted to make an alt just to lure people into a trap and get them in trouble with this... but I realized that wouldn't help anything, so I decided not to.

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Wtf u were panicking in fivem xd..what if u just alt+f4?
you probably played 10 minutes because its all about the community and well yes its kinda hard to get money but not impossible so if you want to get money then go to another server and eclipse rp is just as good as gta world mafia city and others thats why over 300people every day play it
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you probably played 10 minutes because its all about the community and well yes its kinda hard to get money but not impossible so if you want to get money then go to another server and eclipse rp is just as good as gta world mafia city and others thats why over 300people every day play it
Are you serious? Read the TS's statements again.
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