Doomsday Heist cuts, let's be real guys Social > money grind BS

[Retrolicious]

I know there is alot of flame war going on for old heist and even for new heist payouts and cuts and blabla who did setup who is host , who did preparation works. Just be flexible, have social skills and all will be fun and relaxed.

TBH i only play them for fun and find them quite epic and i try to help low levels or randoms to understand why the new doomsday heists are hard and how to beat them quickly without ragequitters .... In fact im even currently researching and writing some guides about those.

With that all beeing said i feel it's best to demand nothing for any cuts and just see what people and party want. In the last days i played full doomsday heists with some randoms and it was always pleasant with 3 people. First i was host and i just wanted to give everybody 20%. But then the rp100 said "i don't need money" so guess what? I gave him 15% default cut and the other low level just 25% and all were happy. We did the finale first try and it was great crazy fun. Why beeing a TRYHARD in this skinner box environment who cries for his 5% or 10% deserved cut? Really crying for 60k $$ loss? Like a little kid?

The other day i help someone on last prep missions and setup missions for Doomsday Act3 finale. Again i don't demand any cuts and it randomly turns out 40/30/30. Everybody happy.
I was just guest to help and have fun.
Then we do the finale again with 3 people. Ok fine we wipe at start cause those crazy minigun dudes. But then we pull through cause i explain where enemies spawn, when to kill minigun dudes, i even solo hack the room and we kill Avon in the end.

And nope im not a rich pimp in fact i only bought facility default bland and im still happy. Because i like the doomsday heists and they are fun, and maybe in future eventually i will be able to by a chernubog or whatever fun toy there is. But let's be real guys you don't need those toys, they are just vanity items and nothing else.

And yes i even join heists for 10% or 15% default cut, because i find them fun and if they are succesful that's a better accomplishment to have helped a noob earn their unlocks than to win virtual money and rip off people lol.

TL;DR
Why do people in GTA:O heists fight over 5% cuts like little kindergarden girls? I never understood. 5-10% cut is like nothing. It's a difference of maybe 60- 120k $$. So what?
With 120k you can't buy squid nowadays in GTA:O skinner box, not even a high end apartament / race car or whatever.
But getting a cool chilled and relaxed lifetime friend for fun GTA:O is priceless, doesnt matter cut or whatever. Social experience > money grind BS.
Guys need to chill down and enjoy the gameplay and play heists for story / gameplay / epic feels / and just help low levels and randoms.

just my 2 cents comment if you want or such, have fun

[Dakkon]

In my experience if someone asks for 20% or more and they don't get it, the job doesn't get done. They either don't try hard, quit after the first fail, or troll the team by pretending to do the job then suiciding or leaving at the last leg of it. It's horrible and I just quit at the heist lobby screen as soon as I see this now.

On the flip side though, if you play for fun and it doesn't bother you why not just make your cut zero and everyone else will be happy. You'll make a lot of friends then!

[Retrolicious]

Robotron님이 먼저 게시:

󰀀 Redhead 󰀈님이 먼저 게시:

Most parties fail, because they get a bad roll for the hack minigame #1. There are certain minigames and they randomly change. So really most important is to have a spotter for act3 finale, who knows where all those crazy enemies spawn, but even more important is the hacker for the 3-4 hack minigames. So far from personal experience hackminigame #2 , #3 and #4 are "easy", but with hack minigame #1 you can roll a very bad layout, which is hard to do.

Im still researching how many hack minigame boards there are and eventually i will make pics of all of them :3

But yeah if the hacking fails you literally have to "ragequit" or restart the game and hope you get a good hacker player in your team or the RNG doesn't give you bad boards ....

uhh, your post talks about ACT 1, the guy says he is having trouble with server farm, WHICH IS ACT ONE, and then you reply with info about the ACT 3 final? Really dude? LOL

Both Act1 setup and act3 finale have server farm hacking. And i believe in both instances you have to do it 4 times. So it's easy to mix them up ok?

Anyway i mostly do act1 + 2 +3 in one go, so most missions blend together and get mixed easily.
That is why i plan to write guides to sort the missions and focus on them easily ...

Anyway i hope you got something fruitful to bring to this discussion next time. This topic is actually about heist cuts and people whining about them. And not what is the correct hack order lol ...

Dakkon님이 먼저 게시:

In my experience if someone asks for 20% or more and they don't get it, the job doesn't get done. They either don't try hard, quit after the first fail, or troll the team by pretending to do the job then suiciding or leaving at the last leg of it. It's horrible and I just quit at the heist lobby screen as soon as I see this now.

On the flip side though, if you play for fun and it doesn't bother you why not just make your cut zero and everyone else will be happy. You'll make a lot of friends then!

^ yes i totally agree with you. The problem is with some heists you cant go lower than a default 10% or something. Do you know why it difference for some heists? I heared in pac standard it's possible to do 0%, but with doomsday heist it isn't possible right?

Anyway i feel most people are happy with 20-30% cuts, they focus better and again 60k difference or 120k is not a big deal anyway ...
Fun is more important than 5 or 10% cut difference i'd say ...

Dakkon님이 먼저 게시:

In my experience if someone asks for 20% or more and they don't get it, the job doesn't get done. They either don't try hard, quit after the first fail, or troll the team by pretending to do the job then suiciding or leaving at the last leg of it. It's horrible and I just quit at the heist lobby screen as soon as I see this now.

On the flip side though, if you play for fun and it doesn't bother you why not just make your cut zero and everyone else will be happy. You'll make a lot of friends then!

Frost님이 먼저 게시:

Stumpy and his wife Martha went to the state fair every year. Every year Stumpy would say, "Martha, I'd like to ride in that there airplane." And every year Martha would say, "I know Stumpy, but that airplane ride costs ten dollars, and ten dollars is ten dollars."
One year Stumpy and Martha went to the fair and Stumpy said, "Martha, I'm 71 years old. If I don't ride that airplane this year I may never get another chance." Martha replied, "Stumpy, that there airplane ride costs ten dollars, and ten dollars is ten dollars." The pilot overheard them and said, "Folks, I'll make you a deal, I'll take you both up for a ride. If you can stay quiet for the entire ride and not say one word, I won't charge you, but if you say one word it's ten dollars." Stumpy and Martha agreed and up they went.
The pilot did all kinds of twists and turns, rolls and dives, but not a word was heard. He did all his tricks over again, but still not a word. They landed and the pilot turned to Stumpy, "By golly, I did everything I could think of to get you to yell out, but you didn't." Stumpy replied, "Well, I was gonna say something when Martha fell out, but ten dollars is ten dollars."


so 120.000 dollars are 120.000 dollars , why not having them ? =0

^
Funny story, but my analogy would rather be why argue about virtual 5% or 10% cut when in the end the mission will never get started and you always only get whiners, tryhards or ragequitters? In the end 120k are irrelevant, if the mission never finishes successfully. That is why it's better to work as a team and give the team mates a cut they will be totally happy with. Why waste 1 hour for a fun mission ( if it's successful ) and only fail, because people got grudges against each other cause they miss out on irrelevant 5% cut raises?
The team is important not one person. Same could be said about your story. Martha, stumpy and pilot are important, but neither of those people understood that.

Team effort + happiness > Egoistic gains like irrelevant +60k

[DavidCretu28]

I commented more for fun, I reminded this joke and I think it fits this thread xD

[Exodus]

Why do people in GTA:O heists fight over 5% cuts like little kindergarden girls?I never understood.

the GTA community is incredibly immature considering the game at hand is quite the opposite, it's ironic really.

You'll argue cash is king in gta, which it is, but taking 5% cuts as seriously as if you're splitting real bills is honestly pathetic.

I've helped players mostly low levels with taking low cuts and no cuts when possible, not everyone does that or has to. I've noticed the trolling factor is also limited if you provide bigger cuts, I'll hand out a 20% instead of having someone rpg'ing his own buttocks near the dingy.

[Teakske]

rage quitters with doomsday heists really their easy af me and a friend of my beat those on our 2

[Pterolycus_Aigars1983]

lol i always give equal cuts and i always ask only one thing listen and doo as i say :)