The hackers are out of control. Why do we not have a damn anticheat?!

[Count Scaphandre]

I have never seen the game this bad. The hackers are just everywhere, ranging from the standard godmode cheater and money dropper, to the classic instant explosion cheaters, to now hackers essentially rootkiting people's computers. I was just in a game where I was beating a hacker in a Business Battle, so they immediately took control of my keyboard making it so I couldn't do anything as it would constantly type "igns are gonna be, but basically we're playing igns are gonna be, but basically we're playing igns are gonna be..."

R*, why haven't you done anything about this? Even after the GTA VI hacker last year who called you out over the lack of anticheat, Online somehow got worse to the point where now hackers are committing federal crimes just because they're losing in basic Freemode events.The hackers' mods are causing my game to lag hard because it's trying to process all the crazy stuff they're spawning. It's unplayable, and I'm sick of every session I go to having a hacker.

[[-iD-]]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez MATi:

I've never come across the rootkit thing and I feel like that's probably just malware on your PC and not the modders because although it's possible, a exploit that severe would prompt R* to be legally forced to update and fix the game.

GTA V does not have a good anti-cheat system and even if it did people would still find ways to cheat around it. All these modders don't just make their own menu.

A group or an individual researches how to exploit the game, makes a menu, updates it and releases it to thousands or even millions of customers who then use the menu to mod the game.

It has always happened and it will always happen unless the company spends a lot of money in an effort to stop it which R* won't because it's a waste and people will still play the game regardless. The company who owns R* absolutely LOVES money, you should research some of the statements they've made.

It's not malware. Did a scan on my computer and it's clean. The hacker in GTAO was able to get remote access to my keyboard right there. I have never seen a game this broken besides Fallout 76 where hackers are able to take control of your keyboard inputs.

yeah right. i don't believe you for a second. gtav doesn't have access to your pc so no one can rootkit you from gtav.

[0xFF6961]

Początkowo opublikowane przez -iD-:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Spaceboi Scaphandre:

It's not malware. Did a scan on my computer and it's clean. The hacker in GTAO was able to get remote access to my keyboard right there. I have never seen a game this broken besides Fallout 76 where hackers are able to take control of your keyboard inputs.

yeah right. i don't believe you for a second. gtav doesn't have access to your pc so no one can rootkit you from gtav.

There could be a possibility of someone using an exploit to transfer a payload to your PC since GTA V is P2P but payloads (malware) need to still be ran on the client PC. An exploit of this severity would not be overlooked considering you can take over anyone's PC who plays GTA V and force their computer to do anything you wish.

You can't just simply control someone's keyboard from only GTA V. Whoever did that has access to your whole PC.

[Dead]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Spaceboi Scaphandre:

R*, why haven't you done anything about this?

Its because they dont care about their customers. They only care about making more profits and a lot of people are stupid enough to buy the sharkcards.

Im sure they think if hackers run wild in game it will make more people spend out on sharkcards to try combat them in someway.

[iBee]

This is what happens when the inmense player base are kids and you dont give a damn faick about it because they keep buying dust so you get richer and richer... If the player base was a mature comunity, with grown people, this company would be severly punished in economical terms cause no one would pay for the shark cards under this circumstances and people would only invest in this game during special sales and promos.

We the consumers have the power to make a company go bankrupt when they cheese. Just take a look at Starbreeze and OTWD. From an amazing and successful company with one of the best games for the last decade to a critic situation, trying to survive...

But sometimes consumers are also brain dead people or kids. This is what it is.

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

There are no ways they could have remote control over you computer.
Mod menu are just sending corrupted packets (understand packets not generated by GTA5 engine) over the network to trigger an action in the game.

Mod menu just "mimic" how the game produce packets and trigger actions.

All in all they just create false interactions with what the game has to offer.

They can also affect RAM but it's tied to what GTA 5 Client can do.

If you get harmed by a cheater and you cannot get rid of any bad effects by changing session you will need to clear the memory by rebooting the game.

See more info below.

Początkowo opublikowane przez AlexKidd62FR:

What some mod menu/cheat program can do (from experience not usage)
- Crash your game (instant)
- Boot you out of a session
- Spoof your name (making others think you are the culprit)
- Make firebombs rain on top of your head (insta kill if not under cover)
- Make water comes out of the floor (make you jump in the air)
- Make you leave you vehicule (and often try dropping you unwanted money)
- Teleport you anywhere even inside a car (mostly over the ocean because kids find it fun)
- Make you getting stuck in infinit loading screen (invite into your own flat)
- Get godmode
- Insta spawn vehicules (which could impact your perfromance by filling RAM)
- Change you character clothing
- Modify your car(s)
- See your IP
- Make you ban by changing values on your character (won't work anymore from what iv'e been told)
- See hostiles NPC even the one in "your" missions.
- Teleport themself anywhere even in your own flat / garage
- Destroy your cars inside your garages
- drop money at you (willingly or not)
- put you on fire (using firecamp stuck glued your foot)

And.... I may have forget some other features but thats already a lot
and all of this is far from being "new".
Some even get removed from time to time because R* found "the holes" in the security

Being aware of all this make spotting them easier.

(Don't missunderstand TP for heist and TP anywhere on the map its often confusing to see someone join their flat in an instant and thats because they answer the call from Lester to trigger the TP)


What you need to be aware of is if at any time you can"t get rid of any bad effect sometime changing session is useless, you can try first to suicide yourself by using the menu (where you can call a car etc) or you'll need to reboot you game completely.

Why reboot the game? because memory get refreshed and this crap programs are injecting crap into your computer memory across the game.

Be aware that when à cheater make cars spawn on the map changing session won't make them disspear and even going into solo won't do it.
The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing is that by changing session you will bring those spawned ♥♥♥♥ with you and every ppl that will encounter those cars will also bring them somewhere else till they reboot the game.

Don't be suprised to get micro freeze / stutter / bad performance when you RAM get filled by these ♥♥♥♥ thats accumulate over time.

[El mugman]

i remember that in the first xbox version, i thougt a hacker spaw a ship container on my apartment and stuck some doors so i cant freely move on my aparment, the container is still there at this day

[Dimwit Donald (very high IQ)]

I'm new to GTA online. Are the servers even dedicated for freemode and/or missions or are they player hosted? If clients can cheat and hack on an unmodded server/host beyond aimbot or shader related stuff, to the point where they can spawn objects, that's some extremely poor programming.

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Wyatt Derp:

I'm new to GTA online. Are the servers even dedicated for freemode and/or missions or are they player hosted? If clients can cheat and hack on an unmodded server/host beyond aimbot or shader related stuff, to the point where they can spawn objects, that's some extremely poor programming.

Players are connecting to a hub that establish relations with other players.

As soon as you join a session you are disconnected from the HUB and join a player hosted session.

You don't know the whole thing. If they wanted to... they could just remove all cheaters in 1 click.
They did that and the whole "modders" (not cheater) community posted bad reviews over internet.

Why? because all mods were disabled.
Modders (ppl thats are making the game better for some) were not able to do anything anymore.
Cheaters (using mod menus) neither...

So at the end they removed the fix on the security hole to make mods available again.

Most mods work with "hooks" (dll injections). With the door closed no more injections possible.

Modders and cheaters are using this same hole.

Anti cheat system rely mostly on data consistency (stats checking).

The system is flawed because of that. Because stats can be manipulated by cheaters :)

[0xFF6961]

The modding community works on the basis of finding ways to mod and exploit the game. Not always for malicious intent but sometimes for the challenge. Majority of mod menu brands are made by enthusiasts who take a interest in diving into GTA V's code to figure out ways to exploit and change it and for this reason patching the so called hole would only lead to them finding another because there is always another. It just depends on how skilled the person is at finding it.

The way they patch these "holes" is by buying the mod menu, reverse engineering it and learning how it injects the code into the game. Once they know how they do it, they can patch it however this obviously takes skill and they would have to pay someone to figure it out.

That's one thing they can do which I've mentioned in a previous reply. The limiting factor is simply money.

As for why there is also so many cheaters is that GTA V is P2P based. They use a central "matchmaking" server which connects players together however anything that happen's in sessions is sent between players. This is how they are able to get anyone's IP in the mod menus.

In P2P everyone connects to each other. No action, such as money dropping, flying high, killing, is validated or checked which is why it is almost impossible to introduce any kind of anti-cheat software. They just can't validate what cheaters are doing unless it's money and they have added procedures to catch people out.

For example, the car sale red flag. If you sell more than 3 personal cars within 30 hours you will be red flagged and going beyond the limit could result in further checks on your account and if they find anything dodgy or weird about your stats they would either wipe your money or ban you. Things like this exist but people just find out and find ways around it.

They also occasionally do ban waves where I am assuming they check a ton of accounts for game time, amount of money, vehicles, K/D and compares stats to make an educated guess whether to punish the player. Hench why you get so many tickets about people getting wrongly banned after these waves.

[AGrenade4U2]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Spaceboi Scaphandre:

I have never seen the game this bad. The hackers are just everywhere, ranging from the standard godmode cheater and money dropper, to the classic instant explosion cheaters, to now hackers essentially rootkiting people's computers. I was just in a game where I was beating a hacker in a Business Battle, so they immediately took control of my keyboard making it so I couldn't do anything as it would constantly type "igns are gonna be, but basically we're playing igns are gonna be, but basically we're playing igns are gonna be..."

R*, why haven't you done anything about this? Even after the GTA VI hacker last year who called you out over the lack of anticheat, Online somehow got worse to the point where now hackers are committing federal crimes just because they're losing in basic Freemode events.The hackers' mods are causing my game to lag hard because it's trying to process all the crazy stuff they're spawning. It's unplayable, and I'm sick of every session I go to having a hacker.

They haven't done anything because they can't. They would have to spend a ton of money to build a centralized server, which they do not have now because the game is built on a peer to peer system, which is common knowledge. You can research this yourself. Just friendly advice.

In a p2p network, each client is connected to each other in a web, so when you join a session you are not connecting to a main server, you are connect to each individual client. The only thing that is centralized is the matchmaking and individual character stats. This means that a modder can mod their own client and you will experience the way they manipulate their own client in the real world, whether that means they have the ability to spawn a cage around you, a campfire on top of you, or something similar. R* has no way to prevent this, as they would have to be manipulating resource files on that person's PC, which is impossible. They could however, ban that person's account, which has been done, but there are so many modders (some with mods that are actually allowed), it would be a huge endeavor to isolate all of those accounts, most likely.

So it is what it is. You can use the solo public session method of suspending your process to isolate yourself and disconnect from all the other peers to create a solo public session, which people will eventually reconnect to you and join your session, but hopefully you've completed your mission before this happens, which is usually the case for me. Just a suggestion. You can also find new session until you find one where you have only passive players just doing their missions. I find this type of session quite often recently.

Best of luck.

EDIT: lol ok, I didn't realize the guy above me just answered with basically the same answer. Sorry.

[Erikinawa]

sharkcards ruined this game not hackers

[Steve]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Erikinawa:

sharkcards ruined this game not hackers

Elaborate more. This isn't some sh*tty Chinese F2P games where everything is sealed behind paid DLC bars, because you can actually enjoy it with your hard earned grind and you don't have to purchase the Sharkcards nor pay a dime to download the contents.

[AtomStrange_]

Getting Invited to Your Own Apartment Infinite Loop Loading Screen is still happening, fuhhk the Devs and fuhhk the Cheaters in this game.

Is Steam ever gonna start issuing VAC BANS to the Cu'ck Trolls of this game?

[Steve]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Festero Doom:

Getting Invited to Your Own Apartment Infinite Loop Loading Screen is still happening, fuhhk the Devs and fuhhk the Cheaters in this game.

Is Steam ever gonna start issuing VAC BANS to the Cu'ck Trolls of this game?

No.

[LaZkY]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Spaceboi Scaphandre:

I have never seen the game this bad. The hackers are just everywhere, ranging from the standard godmode cheater and money dropper, to the classic instant explosion cheaters, to now hackers essentially rootkiting people's computers. I was just in a game where I was beating a hacker in a Business Battle, so they immediately took control of my keyboard making it so I couldn't do anything as it would constantly type "igns are gonna be, but basically we're playing igns are gonna be, but basically we're playing igns are gonna be..."

R*, why haven't you done anything about this? Even after the GTA VI hacker last year who called you out over the lack of anticheat, Online somehow got worse to the point where now hackers are committing federal crimes just because they're losing in basic Freemode events.The hackers' mods are causing my game to lag hard because it's trying to process all the crazy stuff they're spawning. It's unplayable, and I'm sick of every session I go to having a hacker.

My Social Club/GTA 5 account was recently hacked, cheated and banned. Ive been trying to get a hold of rockstar to see if they can help me but no dice. Response take about a week per reply. Any one have any suggestions. Last time I played I was under a million. Day after I couldnt log in and i had a foreign language email from rockstar. After a day of trying to log in i managed to do it but my characters features were all different. Next thing i knew i had over 300 million in my ingame currency. After 5 minutes of checking checking out what has changed i get a "you're account was permanently banned" messaged. I emailed rockstart when i couldnt log in and then again after i got banned. They managed to merge my support tickets to one and asked for some verification information but no response, and that was a week ago. Ive had that character since the xbox 360 version was launched, transfered it over to the ps4 version and then again to the pc version. All this happened the day i upgraded my AMD 1700x to 3900x with a 2080 ti. Didnt even manage to enjoy the 100FPS+ :(