Offworld Trading Company = first RTS trading game ever?

[Darkreaver1980]

Hi there,

let me say first that this game is AMAZING in every way.

Usualy trading games bore the hell outa me, theyre so slow, even my cat could play them :D.

OTC is completly different. First off, the resources are completly random, it realy keeps you on your toes because you cant realy plan ahead...it wont work when you say: "I gona get all Water!" and then you play on a map with no water at all :D

The game feels more like an RTS (Command & Conquer) than any of the "boring" trading games. I think the pacing on normal speed is just perfect and very fun to play with.

This game is EPIC in multiplayer! Because of the random resources and different HQ types, you cant realy come up with any real planning. You just play it and try to make the best out of it and this is just an awesome feeling.

Keep up the good work devs :)

[KWAiRT]

Nope it's the second one :) Check out MULE or the modern day remake over at Planet Mule.

http://www.planetmule.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1W52wQUkKc

Offworld Trading Company to me is a spiritual successor to Mule. I remember the first time I saw the concept art and was reading about the game. I asked right away if this was a modern day MULE and Soren replied Keep in mind MULE was released in 1983 and despite being listed as a TBS is mainly played in realtime.

[eobet]

Really? M.U.L.E. is one of the most enjoyable multiplayer games ever, and I did not at all get any M.U.L.E. vibe from this.

Heck, if I would have, I would have bought it instantly, but I'm still undecided...

But then again, aren't we forgetting the entire Anno series?

[Regime]

Exactly. I was expected to be bored by this, but this is one of the most exciting games that I've ever played, in terms of the 4X category.

I absolutely love it.

[FlashXAron ☕ (Alex)]

... I reduced the SNAIL Speed to 10 (modding) and changed some settings, which are connecting to exploring ...

now I have a little bit that "original" MULE (VC64) feeling ...

But that BATTLES for the claims was a lot more fun in the original MULE !
Haven't played Planet MULE

so Offworld Trading company has to improve for me a lot in the points

CLAIMS (only strategy is atm get the one with value 4)
EXPLORING (too fast , no thrill)
WINNING THE GAME (Buyout is a joke)

wait ... too much too change, as I would prefer an epic game lasting 20 hours per map and not 30 minutes ...

[KWAiRT]

eobet님이 먼저 게시:

Really? M.U.L.E. is one of the most enjoyable multiplayer games ever, and I did not at all get any M.U.L.E. vibe from this.

Heck, if I would have, I would have bought it instantly, but I'm still undecided...

But then again, aren't we forgetting the entire Anno series?

Anno is a city builder though. Damn fine one if I do say so myself. Anno 1404 is what I would consider the best city builder of all time for single and or multiplayer. My version was known as Dawn of Discovery however due to NA release having a seperate name. Dawn of Discovery Gold is an amazing game. Offworld Trading Company is not a city builder though. Who could ever forget Anno?

Hell if it wasn't for Ubisoft DRM I would own it on multiple platforms. Ironically I lost my Dawn of Discovery Gold when Impulse became EBGAMES. In fact I lost all my games on Stardock because of that. :(

[KWAiRT]

FlashXAron님이 먼저 게시:

... I reduced the SNAIL Speed to 10 (modding) and changed some settings, which are connecting to exploring ...

now I have a little bit that "original" MULE (VC64) feeling ...

But that BATTLES for the claims was a lot more fun in the original MULE !
Haven't played Planet MULE

so Offworld Trading company has to improve for me a lot in the points

CLAIMS (only strategy is atm get the one with value 4)
EXPLORING (too fast , no thrill)
WINNING THE GAME (Buyout is a joke)

wait ... too much too change, as I would prefer an epic game lasting 20 hours per map and not 30 minutes ...

Try Planet Mule it's free and it really is the best remake I've seen. It's been going for some time now and still being supported. It has online play also so you might fall in love with it all over again. I only wish they could get the rights from EA to do a proper release in HD or something.

[FlashXAron ☕ (Alex)]

Tried it the last 2 hours and already bored :-) ...
in 1983 I and my friends expected not so much from a game as 4 colours in a game was already WOOOH :-)

I would say the fun with MULE was sitting with friends around in the same room with 2 joysticks and 2 on the keyboard and shouting to each other, when someone just "clicked" at the right time to claim the ground with 4 crystals :-)

Not possible to bring that back ... so now we would need a complex epic game ... and civ V was a little bit that, but still not what is possible (most of the time we waited for the AI and no MOD support for MP, worse MP engine and so on ..)
hoped BE would have been an upgraded version of civ V but was a setback and this is something real different, but far away from an epic game !

So I will have to wait again for a real build up game !

[Darkreaver1980]

yeah, i did try mule too....its like a slower and more boring game compared to offworld trading :D

[knightblaster]

Yep that's going to be a key taste difference here: between fans of RTS, who like fast paced and dislike the pace of eco strategy games, on the one hand, and the fans of eco strategy games who find the pace here too fast for their taste.

[eobet]

Darkreaver1980님이 먼저 게시:

yeah, i did try mule too....its like a slower and more boring game compared to offworld trading :D

There's nothing slow or boring about M.U.L.E. It's about as frantic as a fighting game... and sometimes there's even actual fighting...

"SELL ME SOME FOOD YOU BASTARD OR I WON'T HAVE TIME TO PLANT ANYTHING IN MY NEXT TURN!!"

:)

[calibian]

Dynatech from 1992 :) http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/dynatech

[Bomoo]

Fragile Allegiance, more or less. And please don't call OTC a 4x; it's not.

[SUSEd]

MULE is not RTS, its TBS.
I wish OTC will have more elements from this game.

Bomoo님이 먼저 게시:

And please don't call OTC a 4x; it's not.

Why not? 4X = eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, and eXterminate.

This game has all of these.

[KWAiRT]

SUSEd님이 먼저 게시:

MULE is not RTS, its TBS.
I wish OTC will have more elements from this game.

Bomoo님이 먼저 게시:

And please don't call OTC a 4x; it's not.

Why not? 4X = eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, and eXterminate.

This game has all of these.

Why because the Wiki says it's TBS? It's more an RTS then it is a TBS. Sure all the players take their turns (which are realtime) but all of the action takes place in real time even the bartering and land grabs. If you wanted to get technical it would be a hybrid of sorts but really the bulk of the game is played realtime not in a turn based fashion. During bartering all players are in realtime. During landgrabs all players are playing in realtime. During their turns all players are playing in real time. The only real turns in the game is at the end of each month.

Offworld is not a 4x game either not even close.

[Darkreaver1980]

KWAiRT님이 먼저 게시:

SUSEd님이 먼저 게시:

MULE is not RTS, its TBS.
I wish OTC will have more elements from this game.






Why not? 4X = eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, and eXterminate.

This game has all of these.

Why because the Wiki says it's TBS? It's more an RTS then it is a TBS. Sure all the players take their turns (which are realtime) but all of the action takes place in real time even the bartering and land grabs. If you wanted to get technical it would be a hybrid of sorts but really the bulk of the game is played realtime not in a turn based fashion. During bartering all players are in realtime. During landgrabs all players are playing in realtime. During their turns all players are playing in real time. The only real turns in the game is at the end of each month.

Offworld is not a 4x game either not even close.

i would say OTC is a 4x game all the way.

eXplore = you scan the planet for minerals and lift the fog of war
eXpand = you upgrade your HQ, get more claims to expand your company
eXploit = you build mines to get resources
eXterminate = you blow up other buildings, steal stuff and exterminate other companys by buying them up