Perfect XP Run

[goodmold]

Has anyone managed to get a perfect run yet?

[Sir Rounded]

According to the global achievement stats, some people have, but I always manage to miss something. The best I've done is 495, and I know what 4 of the missed points are.

(I was going for Pacifist, so I didn't kill anything in the forest or wastelands until after I finished the third task. After being denied the pacifist achievement, I reloaded the game and killed one enemy of each type, but there were no goblins in the forest at that point. Thus, I am missing the points for killing the various types of redcap goblins.)

I also haven't figured out the Friend in Need achievement. That may or may not be my missing point. (Not all of the achievements have points associated with them.)

[goodmold]

I am only able to get 499 and I can't think of where that last point would be. With the air mage, I was only able to get 498 because for some reason you aren't awarded a point for picking up the feather unlike all of the other classes (first knowledge sphere task). Your math is on track with the 499.

Friend in Need achievement:
When searching the town for Varner's location, let the hourglass run out and the bomb will explode. You have to do this before finding his location or you will blow up along with the bomb and Varner.

That being said, saving Varner is the optimal outcome as far as experience goes.

[Bee]

I've gotten 499 with Earth and Water mages. I suspect that either I've missed the same thing every time, or if nobody else has managed to get 500 either, that there's an error involved in the points from killing certain monsters.

[goodmold]

I'm almost certain it's the latter. If not I want to hear from someone who has achieved 500. If it's a discrepancy with the monster xp, I would think it would be the bandit. It only rewards 1 xp vs the 2 you receive for other second trial enemies.

[Himalaya Studios]

Thanks for the heads-up on the missing Air Mage point when taking the feather. I'll get that fixed.

It's definitely possible to get 500 points, as our beta testers accomplished it. The missing point is likely a very obscure action (and I think I know which one), but It's more fun to sit back and watch if anyone figures it out. ;)

[Sir Rounded]

It's very easy for me to believe that I've missed the same thing every time. Or else, that I've found all the points, just not all at the same time on a single playthrough. (Then, I'm an inobservant person by nature.)

For me, it's easy to miss minor things like remembering to look at the plaque outside before rushing in to defeat the island priestess, or remembering to ask the bread merchant about the brass button when I know from a previous playthrough where it came from. Jonis's comments during the second task are also easy to miss, but I don't think that there are points for them.

Maybe I'll try an air mage playthrough, where I show every object every person just to see how they respond. That seems like an air mage kind of thing to do. It'll probably take a while, though.

[Bee]

It's harder for me to believe, and I'm skeptical of the idea that it's simply an obscure action. I've used just about every inventory item on every talking character. I've hit 499/500 with Earth and Water (I purposefully tanked Air to get the achieves for screwing up) and had something like 490 with Fire. I purposefully went through the Water run with a fine-toothed comb. When you're hitting 499 reliably, it's not because you carelessly forgot to read the plaque or a book or missed a conversation clue.

In the meantime, something is UP with the point rewards regarding monsters. Sometimes you get 2 points, sometimes 1, sometimes none, sometimes you get a point for a monster you've killed before. I haven't scrutinized each instance and compared it by which chapter you kill what mob under what element (because this is not my job).

I've beaten the 4 paths and gotten nearly all the achieves. Gonna put this one aside until someone else finds the obscure action or a few patches happen.

[Himalaya Studios]

I just double-checked the code for the monster kills XP Points and each instance is wrapped in a Game.DoOnceOnly block of code, ensuring that the XP for killing each monster type can only be awarded once. So I'd be very surprised if it were possible to earn XP multiple times for killing the same enemy. Perhaps you restored a game back to an earlier state before you killed said enemy and the points got re-awarded (but not awarded twice)? Can anyone else confirm whether they've received XP more than once for killing the same type of monster?

[goodmold]

I personally haven't witnessed that. I documented the point count for all the runs I completed, and it's consistent as far as monster XP goes. I'm still missing the elusive point, however, despite being very meticulous. I've even tried alternate routes for things such as using a normal apple to knock down the Applebliss instead of burning one down first (doesn't reward as much), using the animal hide instead of the rug at the Redcap camp, as well as random things like consuming everything you can consume in the game.

[Korzic]

Just finished an Air Mage playthrough with 493 points. Glancing at my achievement progress, I sorta have an idea where the missing points are. Apparently, I missed killing 3 monster types, though I can't imagine what. And I missed reading one book / note.

As far as showing all items to all characters, I kept up with this as best I could, though I'm sure I forgot a couple things. Anyway, I suspect one of the more common things to miss point-wise is giving the feather comb to the Flyterian guard, although this probably needs to be done after getting the necessary info from Falc. I don't remember for certain, but I believe the action awards 1 point.

[Fast Jimmy]

Only beat the game once (and did so with points only in the 450's, so take that with a grain of salt), but when I see people saying they showed every item to every NPC... did that include the Screaming Tree, who goes away pretty early on in the game? I'm wondering if you can put that off in Part 1 long enough to get some item that you could show to him that you (more often than not) wouldn't have yet.

[Sir Rounded]

I think I might have missed giving the comb to the Flyterian guard (although my memory isn't good enough to say for sure). I just confirmed that there is 1 experience point for this. Thank you!

I will have to finish my air mage or fire mage playthrough to see whether I get 500 points this time. My near perfect earth mage run doesn't have a lot of save files, and the water mage game with frequent save files missed too many points along the way.

[Korzic]

@ Sir Rounded - If what goodmold says is true about not getting a point for picking up the feather for the Air Mage's starting spells, and you're supposed to (I also seem to remember not receiving any points for the action, but assumed that perhaps it was intentional, that you'd only get points upon receiving the spells), then it's likely you still won't get full points for that class until a future patch.

@ Fast Jimmy - For me, no, although I'm sure I didn't show it everything I could've. Another instance I'm curious about is when talking to the Air Master upon doing that class' sidequest; I completed it pretty early during the 2nd trial.

[goodmold]

Originally posted by Korzic:

Just finished an Air Mage playthrough with 493 points. Glancing at my achievement progress, I sorta have an idea where the missing points are. Apparently, I missed killing 3 monster types, though I can't imagine what. And I missed reading one book / note.

As far as showing all items to all characters, I kept up with this as best I could, though I'm sure I forgot a couple things. Anyway, I suspect one of the more common things to miss point-wise is giving the feather comb to the Flyterian guard, although this probably needs to be done after getting the necessary info from Falc. I don't remember for certain, but I believe the action awards 1 point.

This was the point I was missing! Thank you Korzic! I remember showing the comb to Condur and Sparron, but that was before I had visited Parlah's perch and witnessed her talking to the magpie. You have to give it back after that.

[Bee]

Originally posted by Korzic:

Anyway, I suspect one of the more common things to miss point-wise is giving the feather comb to the Flyterian guard, although this probably needs to be done after getting the necessary info from Falc. I don't remember for certain, but I believe the action awards 1 point.

This was it for me, as I suspect it will be for a lot of other people who can't find that last part. You're a gentleman and a scholar, sir.