This is a GAMBLING RPG - Not an aRPG

[UnknownOne]

The loot system in this game could be good, but it's not. Of the 100 or so Exalted Orbs I've applied, I'd wager that 90/100 ruined the item. What I mean, is that it added something like 1.5 Health regen or 1-4 thorns. When I go to remove these, it removes a stat I want.

This was an issue in POE1 as well. So, I doubt I will ever return. I played POE1 for about 100 hours too and came to the same realization. You will spend hundreds of hours farming, and 90% of the time, you will get nothing useful. The Unique items are like 99% utter garbage too. It feels like most of them are place holders. Edit: My guess is that uniques will roll out when they add currency that lets you gamble the stats on them as well.

Boss battles are too challenging for the practically ZERO rewards you get. They simply dont drop anything useful with any regularity. So, it just feels punishing to fight them. Why spend all that time fighting when the likelihood of a drop is close to zero? Then, if you get something cool, you are 99% likely to brick the item and make it useless. I mean, who thought this was good design? It sucks.

Anyway, if the devs are reading, you need to increase drop rates probably 10 fold. The vast majority of decent items that drop are ruined anyway. So, as the game stands, it's a dead end for me.

I would highly recommend waiting to try this game until its F2P. I'd like my 30 dollars back.

Of my 90 hours, I'd say I enjoyed maybe 10 of those hours. Edit: I was committed to beating the story which took me about 70 hours on my warrior. Then, when I got to the end game, I spent 20 hours without a single upgrade smashing my head against the wall as my exalt gambling rolls ruined every single decent item I found.

Good luck all.

Edit:

Adding an example of the gambling system in POE. So, you RNG item drops by killing mobs. That is basically the cut/dry aRPG formula. Where it differs is that in POE you have to enhance ALL the items you find with a gambling system. That's where the POE currency comes in. The currency is PURE gambling. The entire item system is built off this, and that's why the game isn't fun - unless you are a gambling addict.

[UnknownOne]

Originally posted by Flushing:

Originally posted by UnknownOne:

No, I've uninstalled and will never play again.

That's great, so when you're done getting negative attention on this thread you're gone?

Because in society, it's helpful to warn others about what will happen to them. I would argue we all have a moral imperative to warn each other of dangers. This game is a dangerous gambling addicition. That's all it is. It offers nothing other than a gambling simulation.

I'd go as far as to say they should categorize this as a GRPG. Gambling Roleplaying Game. The main emphasis of POE1 and now POE2 is to gamble for items. It's 100% a waste of time. I'd rather replay Diablo 2 then spend any more time on this game or any of the modern live service Gambling RPGs. They are all trash that hook people with gambling addiction. It should be outlawed.

[JeanInScreen]

I am glad its IS HARD i LOVE IT

we who forever love Ultima Online "FEL"

[uwusbka]

Originally posted by DrDeath:

I am leaving because of the Act 1 boss, unbalanced and unfair on how difficult it is.

wait what? I killed him on ssf hc for the first time, and he was easy. some cold res, armor, evasion and es. (sorc start gives you tonn of es) and even with meme frost bomb main dps skill

[GetUrAssToMars]

You're right it's not a crpg. It's an aRPG.

Take that same rhetoric to borderlands (this is not shooter - THIS is gambling gayme!) and see how far you get.

[Lucyfar]

it was never a CRPG lmao

Poe is an ARPG

CRPGs is Baldur's Gate 3, Divinity 2 etc...

ARPG is Diablo, Path of Exile, Last Epoch etc...

[UnknownOne]

Originally posted by underd0g:

I picked up an item, slammed it with transmution and augmentation, slammed it with regal, slammed it with 3 exalted and got exactly what I wanted. The result: something I would have vendor trashed in PoE1 if I had it identified. In this game though: it'll have to do.

Maybe this is the developers vision, that we all run around in vendor trash and feel good about it. You will own ♥♥♥♥ items, and you will be happy.

It's a Gambling simulator. That's why the vast majority of people will stop playing. It just isn't a good game. It was built around gambling as the main mechanic. That's the so called "Bones" the game is built on. There's no fixing it. It's a dead end.

This game should be outlawed.

[NotxEevee]

Originally posted by Knight Without Sword:

They already say they will increase drops in next patch...

Increasing rng drops is a bandaid fix for an undeterministic crafting system.
Alteast in PoE1 you could pick what affix you wanted to craft on your base. Here, you simply can't.

It'd be better to have a proper crafting table, maybe with different affix tiers available based of the character's progression, from campaign to each map tier.

It's actually insane the number of people who argue with ad hominems in this forum.

[Supa]

Originally posted by UnknownOne:

It's a Gambling simulator. That's why the vast majority of people will stop playing.

No it's why they start playing it. These people are not interested in engaging mechanics or story or adventure. They just wanna gamble and grind to particle explosions and loot filter sounds.

[jmotivator]

The gear grind is so low that you really do run the risk of ruining a character and having no way out but to start over. That was also an issue in POE 1, though so I guess it's a feature.

[Poyzo]

Originally posted by underd0g:

I picked up an item, slammed it with transmution and augmentation, slammed it with regal, slammed it with 3 exalted and got exactly what I wanted. The result: something I would have vendor trashed in PoE1 if I had it identified. In this game though: it'll have to do.

Maybe this is the developers vision, that we all run around in vendor trash and feel good about it. You will own ♥♥♥♥ items, and you will be happy.

What's wrong with this?

Instead of getting 100% of what you need, you need to make do and survive with what you already got.

[Sai]

Originally posted by moody:

Crafting is a joke. Don't hit what you need? Scrap the Item. Waste your Currency. Repeat. RNG trash system that we should be moving away from after all these years.

First aRPG? Good riddance :)

It's like people don't know the genre of the game they are playing or buying... do some research folks.

[yaxpax]

I agree that orb system has a negative part in it - you can ruin an item in PoE. BUT, the same as in Diablo 2 - you have farming equipment with MF and you have shiny equipment for tough fights. Ruining shiny equipment is not fun, but it is not the end of the world, since it is not what you wear every day. You also can have 2 sets of shiny equipment - for experiments and for fun... and so on.

[UnknownOne]

Originally posted by Knight Without Sword:

They already say they will increase drops in next patch...also u can gamble for items at vendors and each lvl up u have reroll of items at vendors in all towns. Wich means every lvl up u can go to vendors and try your luck to find good item. You can also salvage everything with socket holes and items with +% of quality wich will give u upgrading stones.

Increasing drops likely doesn't fix the glaring issue that the game is built to be a gambling simulator. The entire item system should be trashed. The people who like this game are gambling addicts, that's it.

[UnknownOne]

Originally posted by yaxpax:

I agree that orb system has a negative part in it - you can ruin an item in PoE. BUT, the same as in Diablo 2 - you have farming equipment with MF and you have shiny equipment for tough fights. Ruining shiny equipment is not fun, but it is not the end of the world, since it is not what you wear every day. You also can have 2 sets of shiny equipment - for experiments and for fun... and so on.

There were only like 5 items in Diablo 2 that really had wide ranges of rolls. The rest were good if you found them. This game is ALL items are gambling simulator where you focus on stats you want. It's a lot like Diablo 4 in that regard. There's no memorable items or builds at the moment.

This game is going to run the same level POE1 did because most of us don't want to play a gambling simulator. They will retain the addicts they had from the first game and that's about it.

They could have done something bold, but instead they stuck with POEs greatest weakness, the item system.

[axel8000]

Originally posted by UnknownOne:

The loot system in this game could be good, but it's not. Of the 100 or so Exalted Orbs I've applied, I'd wager that 90/100 ruined the item. What I mean, is that it added something like 1.5 Health regen, or 1-4 thorns. When I go to remove these, it removes a stat I want.

This was an issue in POE1 as well. So, I doubt I will ever return. I played POE1 for about 100 hours too and came to the same realization. You will spend hundreds of hours farming, and 90% of the time, you will get nothing useful. The Unique items are like 99% utter garbage too. It feels like most of them are place holders.

Boss battles are too challenging for the practically ZERO rewards you get. They simply dont drop anything useful with any regularity. So, it just feels punishing to play fight them.

Anyway, if the devs are reading, you need to increase drop rates probably 10 fold. The vast majority of decent items that drop are ruined anyway. So, as the game stands, it's a dead end for me.

I would highly recommend waiting to try this game until its F2P. I'd like my 30 dollars back.

Of my 90 hours, I'd say I enjoyed maybe 10 of those hours.

Good luck all.

You played 90 hours and want your $30 back? You can't go bowling for 2 hours these days for $30. 90 hours of entertainment for $30 is a great deal. You should be thanking the devs.