PoE2 is the best ARPG by far, what is your 2nd choice?

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

I think PoE2 is the best ARPG by far currently, especially when we will get all the other half of classes, all the ascendancies and all the content and new weapons and items when Full Launch happens.

Then PoE2 will be literally the GOAT arpg with such amount of classes and content to play. Don't think any other arpg is even close of the amount of classes and what types of builds can then do at that point?

I have now (mostly play on console, because sofa and huge screen = comfy times) stopped after maxing 2 classes (i know some have maxed all probably), but i feel like i want to leave a lot of things for the Full Launch for that full gaming experience.

So the question is:

What is the game you gonna play while waiting for the full launch of PoE2 if you already done all that you wanted when trying out the Early Access?

Grim Dawn? Last Epoch? D4? PoE1? Something else?

I wish you all PoE2 playing gigachads & gigaEgirls the most awesome gaming week and blessings to your loot drops!

[Riukensei]

PoE2 has destroyed the board. Every other ARPG game is F tier, including PoE1. I don't think people realize how big of a change this is.

I am just sad GGG PR team is F tier like Blizzard. They are ruining what these fantastic devs have created.

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

Originally posted by Riukensei:

PoE2 has destroyed the board. Every other ARPG game is F tier, including PoE1. I don't think people realize how big of a change this is.

I am just sad GGG PR team is F tier like Blizzard. They are ruining what these fantastic devs have created.

I agree, when full launch happens, there is SO much classes and subclasses (ascendancies) that no other arpg does not even come close with how much different kinds of playstyles and builds can then play in one game of the genre.. every other game then feels a bit mid compared to that, even each of them CAN have like one or two things they are known to be good at.

I feel PoE2 is at full launch such a huge COMPLETE package of so much in it, that others needs to step up, competition is always good for the genre, this will force others to pump out something special for their next expansions, if they want to gain more players besides their most loyal core.

What you mean about their PR team? Honest question, have not followed their socials etc lately? Did they do some bad pr or bad change lately? Since as said, am now in the "waiting for full launch mode". :)

[Acronen]

Honestly, it may end up being great, but as it is now I'd put it just above Wolcen. (I don't think Wolcen was bad, but man did it have some big issues, and was broken at its core.)

Game is too stuck in the past to be the best, and to be the best going forward. It is fun, and a whole hell of a lot better than what PoE 1 was (the only ARPG I truly do not like.)

It's still nowhere near the first 2 Diablo games, Grim Dawn, Titan's Quest, the Sacred series, etc. I'd place it above Diablo 3, but not above that game once Reaper of Souls hit. I don't know how to rank it against Diablo 4 to be honest. There are things I like about D4 more, and things I like about PoE 2 more. Both are very flawed, but there is fun to be had in each.

(Last Epoch fans, sorry, couldn't include that game. Only game I have ever refunded, because for whatever reason I was running into problems getting it to run. Refunded before the 2 hour mark simply cause I couldn't troubleshoot it and get it to run, so haven't played that one and can't offer comment.)

Edit: Oh yeah, I'd place Grim Dawn as the best ARPG. It's just graphically... not impressive to say the least.

[否]

im buying grimdawn last winter sale, and it's better than POE2 pffftttt

[Ghigi]

Boss fights are still the thing I am sure I will be missing in the next arpg game (is that thou, Grim Dawn 2?). Count Geonor with that Vincent Price homage, the Witch character knowing him from before, the Warrior class recognizing his power when entering the Mansion. The Executioner calling his lazy lads to step into the arena....

[Darthjerro]

D2 > Poe 2 > Poe > Grim Dawn > Last Epoch > Titans quest > Torchlight 2 > The End

Honorable Mentions - D1 , Sacred , Fate , Dungeon Siege 2..

[Wendrig]

there is no second Game, POE 2 offer so much to play, i am sure it lasts till release.

[Acronen]

Originally posted by Darthjerro:

D2 > Poe 2 > Poe > Grim Dawn > Last Epoch > Titans quest > Torchlight 2 > The End

Honorable Mentions - D1 , Sacred , Fate , Dungeon Siege 2..

Dungeon Siege 2... also a really fun game. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

[FrontenStuermer]

Originally posted by Sofia♡:

I think PoE2 is the best ARPG by far currently, especially when we will get all the other half of classes, all the ascendancies and all the content and new weapons and items when Full Launch happens.

Then PoE2 will be literally the GOAT arpg with such amount of classes and content to play. Don't think any other arpg is even close of the amount of classes and what types of builds can then do at that point?

I have now (mostly play on console, because sofa and huge screen = comfy times) stopped after maxing 2 classes (i know some have maxed all probably), but i feel like i want to leave a lot of things for the Full Launch for that full gaming experience.

So the question is:

What is the game you gonna play while waiting for the full launch of PoE2 if you already done all that you wanted when trying out the Early Access?

Grim Dawn? Last Epoch? D4? PoE1? Something else?

I wish you all PoE2 playing gigachads & gigaEgirls the most awesome gaming week and blessings to your loot drops! :darkheart:

Good joke.
At time PoE 2 ist the last arpg i would play because if i wanna play a non rewarding trade simulator there are better games on the market.

So it time i dont play any arpgs.
If i had to play my ranked would be:


1. Last Epoch
2. D4

I could have a look at Grim Dawn but at time no game isnt my time worth.
D4 is boring because always the same map and story.
Last Epoch could be funny but i wanna have a new game with better story, more motivationg gameplay and others.

PoE 2 sucks so hard and thats no reason of ea.
Its a stupid mechanic to make this game a trade simulation, dont give you rewards and good loot.
Newer saw such a stupid mechanic to browse online in a tradecenter and need to whisper to buy something.
Most of whispered persons didnt answered.
Furthermore they increase the problem with RMT because loot drop is so bad, worst ever seen in a game.

PoE 2 would be good game if:
1. No useless tradecenter -> exchanged through a real good auctionhouse
where you can buy things directly withouht trading.
2. Really much better reward ingame from bosses and others to get useful lootdrop
so no big need of auctionhouse.
3. Stupid RNG upgrade systems, no good real crafting

This are mechanics they could implement in the planing of the game but they dont
want it.
That means the game is trash for me.

So doesnt matter if they will increase the story or bring in more classes.
The game mechanics are trash so doesnt care about this game any more if
they dont change this.

[Velimirius]

POE2 reminds me of D3 at launch, jobless sois grinding night and day to sell stuff, devs certainly made sure to design the game around them and janky nolife tubers.

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

Originally posted by Ghigi:

Boss fights are still the thing I am sure I will be missing in the next arpg game (is that thou, Grim Dawn 2?). Count Geonor with that Vincent Price homage, the Witch character knowing him from before, the Warrior class recognizing his power when entering the Mansion. The Executioner calling his lazy lads to step into the arena....

You know what, i love the extra comments each class makes about certain enemies/situations/places.. like Witch often comments enemy bosses etc that are also witches as "Sisters".. making insults etc towards them. It adds a LOT to the immersive feeling for me.

I really enjoy that aspect of the game, voiced lines about enemies are so cool little interactions that makes it feel unique.

Good lists here from people so far.. except as a fangirl of PoE2 i must say that if not put it at the top they are a bit coping, numbers of players do not lie. :P I mean.. we are not a hivemind as gamers, all got individual taste, but even people who has some other game as their own top1, must admit that PoE2 was the biggest thing to happen to this genre, and others will truly have to compete for the arpg players attention in their next content/DLC, because people WILL compare it all to PoE2 as sort of "new standard". Imagine putting out a new game now with less classes/subclasses etc?

I have heard good things about Grim Dawn so far though, maybe i should try it?

By the way.. does anyone remember if there was some Warhammer 40K universe ARPG(ish) type of game? Or do i remember wrong? Maybe it was just a dream.. I tried to search for it, but Steam results give so many WH40K games and DLC to them that hard to find a single game among them because there are so many games and DLC with WH40k in the name of them..

[M'Hael]

Some of you guys are smoking crack...sweet WASD movement and a few non trivial boss fights in campaign on the first play through because you are under geared...which become completely trivial after the first play through since you can feed your new chars some gear. Diablo 1, Diablo 2, Grim Dawn, and Titan Quest are all better APRGS...The only reason you think PoE2 is so good is because all you have played is PoE 1 which isn't good. The game felt like it had some real potential during the first play through but it all goes up in a cloud of smoke after you beat the campaign the first time.

[Acronen]

Hey, like what you like. Nothing wrong with that, but if you are making a numbers argument then that puts Diablo 4 solidly, and I mean solidly head and shoulders above the rest (and to be frank, I like it, but it's not the best.)

Warhammer ARPG style game is called Warhammer 40k: Inquisitor. It's not bad. From the things you seem to mention about PoE 2 (class selection thing) Grim Dawn seems more up your alley. Graphically it can be a bit rough, but the class system in that game is the best I've ever experienced. You get to pick 2 classes, and you can mix and match them however you want. They also have a new expansion coming soon, with another class to add into that mix. So may be worth putting it on your list for when that comes out, if you're interested.

Edit: with the way classes/masteries work in Grim Dawn, when the expansion releases that basically means like 45 classes/class combos you get to make/choose from, to give you an idea.

[Fredspekvet]

Grim Dawn -> D4 -> D2R -> PoE 2 -> Last Epoch -> Wolcen -> rest . if you want to compare them like that, since they're all completely different games that cater to different people in the genre.

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

Originally posted by Acronen:

Hey, like what you like. Nothing wrong with that, but if you are making a numbers argument then that puts Diablo 4 solidly, and I mean solidly head and shoulders above the rest (and to be frank, I like it, but it's not the best.)

Warhammer ARPG style game is called Warhammer 40k: Inquisitor. It's not bad. From the things you seem to mention about PoE 2 (class selection thing) Grim Dawn seems more up your alley. Graphically it can be a bit rough, but the class system in that game is the best I've ever experienced. You get to pick 2 classes, and you can mix and match them however you want. They also have a new expansion coming soon, with another class to add into that mix. So may be worth putting it on your list for when that comes out, if you're interested.

Do you have any official source for those D4 numbers of active players being bigger than PoE2?

Oh thanks, will check it out! Not like already had enough games on my to-do-list..

https://store.steampowered.com/app/527430/Warhammer_40000_Inquisitor__Martyr/

Actually looks like decent fun the Inquisitor, totally a game to pick if goes on a nice sale. ^^


And.. will add Grim Dawn to my wishlist then and buy on next sale. People say it was on big sale during winter sales, missed that - classic. :D