Minion and Melee builds will NEVER be top tier

[Poyzo]

End-game in ARPGs ALWAYS ends up with you kiting enemies/bosses to avoid getting one-shotted. Minions and melee builds will never survive this, thus you will never progress as much as a ranged/magic user.

Think about this before creating your next character and pushing ladder.

[Baked Potato]

You never heard of 1-shot Titan build ?

[Caramel_Clown]

I think a player with second highest level in SSF Hardcore right now plays a melee warrior. Cope I guess?

[gachi is manly]

Ice Strike invoker says hi.

One of the best builds currently and it's melee.

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by Caramel_Clown:

I think a player with second highest level in SSF Hardcore right now plays a melee warrior. Cope I guess?

Indeed it is cope. They know there are leaderboards but still pushed misinformation. Then admitted about minion masters but wants them heavily nerfed.

Originally posted by Poyzo:

Minion builds require no skill and should get nerfed based on this fact. Magic and Ranged users require more APM (action per minute) compared to minion users who run around picking up loot. No minion build should be in the top 100 Ladder.

Make it happen, GGG! :winterbunny2023:

will not admit they are wrong then fabricates something else to rant about.

[robruckus65]

Originally posted by Honyakusha:

lvl95 infernalist here, pinnacle bosses took 2-5 seconds and T15-lvl82 maps also same. My gear is pretty good but I'm playing no-trade so its doable. Only annoying thing for minion builds are not their toughness but their damn hitbox-AI pathing. Oftentimes minions will block each other, reducing their effectiveness dramatically and also stuck doorways and narrow corridors to fck you up.

I got my witch to level 85 and had to take a break the minions just clogging up in doorways was driving me nuts haha. Some of the map layouts are insanely unfriendly to minions. Other than that though she melts everything.

[Poyzo]

Originally posted by Caramel_Clown:

I think a player with second highest level in SSF Hardcore right now plays a melee warrior. Cope I guess?

Quite curious how you are specifically picking one group of people to prove a point that I'm not trying to make. Curious indeed!

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by Poyzo:

Originally posted by Caramel_Clown:

I think a player with second highest level in SSF Hardcore right now plays a melee warrior. Cope I guess?

Quite curious how you are specifically picking one group of people to prove a point that I'm not trying to make. Curious indeed!

Leaderboards also say so. Keep on trying to bait

[n9ne_x]

I am playing as lvl 92 infernalist minion build and I am very tanky (17k ES) and deal very high damage, haven't had a boss I can't beat yet, I have done Zakorh, Xesht level 3, and stone citadel, and currently farming lvl 15-18 maps/trial of chaos.

The problem with minion build is the minions AI being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. They are slow and often get stuck on anything and everything making them horrible. You will run into an area and your minions won't be there, they will be half the map away stuck on a doorway, meaning you have ZERO DPS or defense until they respawn.

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by n9ne_x:

I am playing as lvl 92 infernalist minion build and I am very tanky (17k ES) and deal very high damage, haven't had a boss I can't beat yet, I have done Zakorh, Xesht level 3, and stone citadel, and currently farming lvl 15-18 maps/trial of chaos.

The problem with minion build is the minions AI being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. They are slow and often get stuck on anything and everything making them horrible. You will run into an area and your minions won't be there, they will be half the map away stuck on a doorway, meaning you have ZERO DPS or defense until they respawn.

` key if very fickle when commanding the undead.

[n9ne_x]

Originally posted by EvilHare:

Originally posted by n9ne_x:

I am playing as lvl 92 infernalist minion build and I am very tanky (17k ES) and deal very high damage, haven't had a boss I can't beat yet, I have done Zakorh, Xesht level 3, and stone citadel, and currently farming lvl 15-18 maps/trial of chaos.

The problem with minion build is the minions AI being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. They are slow and often get stuck on anything and everything making them horrible. You will run into an area and your minions won't be there, they will be half the map away stuck on a doorway, meaning you have ZERO DPS or defense until they respawn.

` key if very fickle when commanding the undead.

I do this, when you command them to move somewhere, they will sit there for a brief 1-2seconds before attacking or moving with you again, or you can try unequip and re-equip your weapon to despawn and force respawn them, but again both of these shouldn't be needed

[Panthaz89]

Infernalist minions is literally one of the best builds in the game especially for hardcore.

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by Panthaz89:

Infernalist minions is literally one of the best builds in the game especially for hardcore.

The OP knows but chose to post the topic anyways. How can they not know since the leaderboards are openly displayed.

https://www.pathofexile.com/ladders

They are blatantly trolling

[Poyzo]

The game is in Early Access. The developers are actively balancing skills out. How do you not know this?

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by Poyzo:

The game is in Early Access. The developers are actively balancing skills out. How do you not know this?

How do you make an accusation like you did in your topic/title and not know that it is false just by looking at leaderboards?

https://www.pathofexile.com/ladders

Originally posted by Poyzo:

End-game in ARPGs ALWAYS ends up with you kiting enemies/bosses to avoid getting one-shotted. Minions and melee builds will never survive this, thus you will never progress as much as a ranged/magic user.

Think about this before creating your next character and pushing ladder.

[Poyzo]

The game is CURRENTLY being balanced. This is ABNORMAL with any Season that has ever existed. Once the developers are DONE balancing the game, we'll see Minion and Melee builds drop as Magic and Range builds shoot towards the topic. As per usual.