Worst endgame ever?

[Karnadon]

Well, GGG always said good stuf about PoE2 end game, they were very happy with it. But, guess what? End game is empty, it is just reclycled map and bosses, nothing more...Then you ask me: "What about the big Pinnacle boss? It looks cool, right?". No.

You need to find the citadels to drop the 3 keys needed to face the atlas boss. Many ppl with more tha 200 hours never saw a single citadel on the atlas, i have 120+ hours and never saw a single one either. I already know that a citadel is made of 90% reclyced stuff of the base game, and i know if you die there, you need to find another citadel...This looks cool for you? We need to grind hours of this crap atlas just to find more citadel to try again, GGG is not respecting our time and they put a lot of effort on this end game, i really believe this is what is meant to be and not an "early acess problem".

I am really disapointed, maybe they will decide to change that, specially when new expasions come in the future, but until there...I dont know, this looks really bad guys, what you think about it?

[Thumbwiggler]

Its EA, They haven't even fisished act 4,5,6 lol the end game is coming :P

[HumbleImp]

Which ARPG end game do you prefer and why? because as far as I can tell this is better than diablo last epoch and grim combined and its barely entered EA.

[Karnadon]

Originally posted by HumbleImp:

Which ARPG end game do you prefer and why? because as far as I can tell this is better than diablo last epoch and grim combined and its barely entered EA.

I prefer Last Epoch end game. The monolith is pretty cool, they have exclusive mechanics, bosses and drops, it is not just reclycled stuff with an almost infinity grind to find the one boss...And the monolith is not the only end game stuff, the dungeons are cool too, and they have that since EA. I know PoE2 is EA for now, but GGG were so confident about the end game (even on EA) that makes me believe they really want the atlas to be like that.

[Nightsbane]

Originally posted by HumbleImp:

Which ARPG end game do you prefer and why? because as far as I can tell this is better than diablo last epoch and grim combined and its barely entered EA.

Is this coping or delusion ?? As good as POE 2's campaign is the end game is terrible . Last epoch and grim dawn's end game are superior and more interesting. Hell Diablo has a better end game at this point.

[Alek]

They Endgame feels Like Satan Took over to make Players suffer as much as possible. You have to be really f****d Up to enjoy all the punishment

[Panthaz89]

Originally posted by Nightsbane:

Originally posted by HumbleImp:

Which ARPG end game do you prefer and why? because as far as I can tell this is better than diablo last epoch and grim combined and its barely entered EA.

Is this coping or delusion ?? As good as POE 2's campaign is the end game is terrible . Last epoch and grim dawn's end game are superior and more interesting. Hell Diablo has a better end game at this point.

how is Diablos end game of mostly repeating the same dungeons you just did in the campaign even remotely better? Because that's the real end game on it.

[HumbleImp]

I played last epoch and diablo. In Poe2 its great every stat improvement is still felt and feels meaningful, I'm still progressing in maps and currency, trials, and all the extra stuff(expeditions,delerium ect.). I haven't even touched the outer ring of talent points for those bosses, I assume they start once I hit T15 maps and I'm halfway through 10.

But the best part is stats, every gain is still felt and still feels meaningful. And that makes it great to get more currency buy more gear, get another level, get another atlas point.

I'm loving it.

[Nightsbane]

Originally posted by Panthaz89:

Originally posted by Nightsbane:

Is this coping or delusion ?? As good as POE 2's campaign is the end game is terrible . Last epoch and grim dawn's end game are superior and more interesting. Hell Diablo has a better end game at this point.

how is Diablos end game of mostly repeating the same dungeons you just did in the campaign even remotely better? Because that's the real end game on it.

Depending on which diablo you're playing you have rifts and dungeons and ♥♥♥♥ tons of options for your end game . POE 2's game is just suffering and boredom and being bored is the worst thing possible for an end game.

Hell WOLCEN's end game is better then POE 2's end game that's how bad it is.

[HumbleImp]

Diablo was trash for endgame, I had to run the same dungeon over and over. Not any dungeon, just the same 1-2 dungeons. What a joke. Then there was the MMO fight that was just awful after the first time you did it and that hellfire zone which got old REAL fast.

For a game with 30 years and billions of dollars they haven't managed to improve on diablo 2 at all. Still riding on the coattails of the people that made that game and who got burned when blizz got all corporate. This iteration of diablo their big brain idea was to steal mokkoko seeds and mmo fights from lost ark, and they couldn't even steal those ideas well, just such poor implementation.

Diablo and blizz are an embarrassment at this point, zero innovation in the genre in 30 years and all that money. They should be laughed out of every room they try to talk in.
They can afford polish, voice acting and cut scenes but they are bad for games in general.

[ZEFFIE]

Games not finished. Let them cook

[M'Hael]

Originally posted by HumbleImp:

Which ARPG end game do you prefer and why? because as far as I can tell this is better than diablo last epoch and grim combined and its barely entered EA.

PoE2 is an excellent game in some regards and has the potential to be one of the best ...but don't be ridiculous, saying that is better than Diablo, Diablo 2, and Grim Dawn combined is patently absurd. There are some absolutely terrible game design choices in PoE2 and pretty much everyone can see it except the most die hard fan boys. Honor system in Trials, 1 life Maps, 1 life Citadel attempt, copious amounts of 1 shot mechanics...just to name a few. I would say as far as actually game design, Grim Dawn is at the top and the only reason people hold it in such low regards is because the game is running on a hotrodded iteration of the 20 year old Titan Quest engine...which was pretty damn good in 2006...but yeah definitely showing its age these days.

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by Karnadon:

Originally posted by HumbleImp:

Which ARPG end game do you prefer and why? because as far as I can tell this is better than diablo last epoch and grim combined and its barely entered EA.

I prefer Last Epoch end game. The monolith is pretty cool, they have exclusive mechanics, bosses and drops, it is not just reclycled stuff with an almost infinity grind to find the one boss...And the monolith is not the only end game stuff, the dungeons are cool too, and they have that since EA. I know PoE2 is EA for now, but GGG were so confident about the end game (even on EA) that makes me believe they really want the atlas to be like that.

Idk how bad it is, but i thought i heard they thought they better implement an end game pretty late, before EA launches. Like, they didn't actually put that much into it, they just wanted to make sure there was a functioning end game before it went EA. Thats what I remember from an interview. I'm sure they will add more to it.

[Mandarin |Sky|]

With the way the new endless Atlas works, I expect us to get some very very cool atmospheric leagues in the future.

Boats that sail to uncharted islands.

Areas that have erupted in lava.

New rainforest bioms.

Areas conquered by X

Areas destroyed by X

Countless unique areas to replace all the PoE 1 unique maps.

New temples.

Etc.

There's really endless possibilities.

[Homuya]

Originally posted by Nightsbane:

Originally posted by Panthaz89:

how is Diablos end game of mostly repeating the same dungeons you just did in the campaign even remotely better? Because that's the real end game on it.

Depending on which diablo you're playing you have rifts and dungeons and ♥♥♥♥ tons of options for your end game . POE 2's game is just suffering and boredom and being bored is the worst thing possible for an end game.

Hell WOLCEN's end game is better then POE 2's end game that's how bad it is.

Wolcens endgame is the same thing, whats better about that? You are overleved and have to do the same. In PoE you can at least die, in Wolcen you have to repeat 50 dungeons first before enemies deal some damage lol

[CyberDown]

They literally delayed the early access and decided to skip the rest of the campaign to have at least a basic version of maps ready for the early access. This has not been a secret. Content will come, they were quick with it in POE1 id expect similar here. They have tons of content from POE1 they could port over and add some back story stuff to it as well.

Like chill lol the paid beta just started, and they already made significant improvements.