Hero Siege

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Cookie Jul 3, 2020 @ 5:06am
Lock me please
Did some testing with numbers to see how much money i personally would have to spend inorder to get an angelic piece of gear. being 1% drop chance and people having different luck i figured id do some math. Here's the results using /roll command in World Of Warcraft ingame chat command 1-100 roll. 100 being an angelic.

71 blue (Rare)
30 orange (Legendary)
9 purple (Mythic)
6 red (Satanic)
1 white (Angelic)

total cost= $174.33

$1.49 per key / 1 roll

it took me nearly $200 usd to get an angelic piece of gear... (White)..

While 1% chance is much much higher than the in game chance for it to naturally drop, i don't believe its worth this price. A lot of this loot can be earned in a couple of hours of gameplay.

To each their own, if someone wants to spend that kind of money thats on them. I personally used to be a whale and spent money i saved up during highschool on Trove Chaos chests (Another form of loot boxes). Just putting this out there as one example so when they do release you have some form of general idea

Be safe guys remember how much money it could rack up trying to get a piece.

Sorry if this upsets anyone

Edit: Grammar
Edit 2: I totally want to support the devs. if you feel the same way then skins might be a great alternative. And yes, i know lootboxes are optional.. But giving someone who can't control their spending habits a fresh opportunity to burn cash isn't healthy imo..
Last edited by Cookie; Jul 12, 2020 @ 9:51pm
Originally posted by Ginjii Raishin:
Quick break down on these things, neither pro or con.
1. The lootboxes are free in game as loot themselves.
2. They ONLY drop cosmetics, not actual stat'd items.
3. They keys to open them will be $1.50 unless the price changes by the time they go live.
4. You can can trade both unopened boxes and the cosmetics from them to other players.

These are the facts so far on the discord. I hope this has been informative. Have a nice day.
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Mikoto Jul 3, 2020 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by Cookie:
Edit 2: I totally want to support the devs. if you feel the same way then skins might be a great alternative. And yes, i know lootboxes are optional.. But giving someone who can't control their spending habits a fresh opportunity to burn cash isn't healthy imo..
Actually this is straight up abuse. Loot boxes are currently going through the process to be outright illegal in the UK because they prey upon children and those who have a gambling addiction tendency. These loot boxes are straight up unethical considering how many DLC's this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game has.

There is literally no reason for these to be implemented in this game other than sheer greed and cruelty.

Until they get a clue and listen to all of the negative feedback, they should not receive another cent in support. Let their game die because they decided to turn into EA. That is the only way we can get them to listen at this point as they honestly think they can triple dip on us (we have to buy the game, buy the dlc's and now buy loot boxes).
Loot Goblin Jul 3, 2020 @ 8:09am 
I'm ready to spend some money to get some items for collection for my Steam inventory and i want to do it, that's my opinion. Nobody can't stops me with that, for spending my own money for lootboxes! :unacceptable:
wubbles Jul 3, 2020 @ 11:24am 
The market should be flooded with blue/orange cosmetics for people to buy for a dime or two. I don't necessarily hate this system.
Cookie Jul 3, 2020 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by PRR.NINJA:
I'm ready to spend some money to get some items for collection for my Steam inventory and i want to do it, that's my opinion. Nobody can't stops me with that, for spending my own money for lootboxes! :unacceptable:
Oh the item skins? no i agree man im totally all for that. Cool idea i like skins
Cookie Jul 3, 2020 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by Ginjii Raishin:
How I spend my money is my business. I like these devs, I will support their stuff since the base game is $6 and is enjoyable all by itself.

Edit: I let my annoyance lead me to saying hateful things, I took that part out. I'm sorry if you can't control your spending but that's no one's problem but the person with the wallet. A company that charges less than a meal for a good game should be allowed to make money on a business venture. It's not actual items, it's digital swag that offers no advantage. I'm done with this topic since apparently it's a hot button for me I didn't know I had.
Why get so offended HAHA i literally said

"To each their own, if someone wants to spend that kind of money thats on them."

Did you actually read the post or just turn into a keyboard warrior?
Its your money. do with it what you want. If this really irritates you that badly then don't even comment.
Last edited by Cookie; Jul 3, 2020 @ 4:20pm
Ginjii Raishin Jul 3, 2020 @ 8:59pm 
You asked me not to comment so I deleted it. Granted, I was mostly talking to Argenteus but it's your topic so no worries.
Faunts Jul 3, 2020 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by Ginjii Raishin:
You asked me not to comment so I deleted it. Granted, I was mostly talking to Argenteus but it's your topic so no worries.

More so afraid of any confrontation.
Ginjii Raishin Jul 5, 2020 @ 3:30pm 
Originally posted by Faunts:
Originally posted by Ginjii Raishin:
You asked me not to comment so I deleted it. Granted, I was mostly talking to Argenteus but it's your topic so no worries.

More so afraid of any confrontation.
I'm fine with confrontation. Leaving when I'm asked to is just me trying to have manners. Do you not have manners in weeb culture? Sad.
Faunts Jul 5, 2020 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by Ginjii Raishin:
Originally posted by Faunts:

More so afraid of any confrontation.
I'm fine with confrontation. Leaving when I'm asked to is just me trying to have manners. Do you not have manners in weeb culture? Sad.

Don't kid yourself NPC. You deleted your comment before I could reply to it in the announcement thread because you're too chicken ♥♥♥♥.
Ginjii Raishin Jul 5, 2020 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Faunts:
Originally posted by Ginjii Raishin:
I'm fine with confrontation. Leaving when I'm asked to is just me trying to have manners. Do you not have manners in weeb culture? Sad.

Don't kid yourself NPC. You deleted your comment before I could reply to it in the announcement thread because you're too chicken ♥♥♥♥.
I was mad and regretted what I typed since it's a game and getting worked up over it is silly. So I deleted my rash words and moved on. Again, sad you can't do the same. It's a shame. You voice really thought out opinions and have good points. Why can't someone as smart as you realize I was having a ♥♥♥♥ day, raged on the internet, regretted it and removed my hate? Have fun in Season 10 though, maybe I'll gift you a dlc as an olive branch.

And I'm sorry I called you a weeb. Uncalled for. People should enjoy what they like man. I main Samurai so who am I kidding with that insult.

Edit: We both agree that AtlA was an anime, what could we possibly fight about at this point? If you still wanna call me a chicken ♥♥♥♥ for trying to bury the hatchet then sling away. I'm the guilty party here for name calling and getting in peoples faces over a game feature.
Last edited by Ginjii Raishin; Jul 5, 2020 @ 7:35pm
Nick Jul 8, 2020 @ 7:46pm 
This reminds me of the time when RIFT went free to play and the developers promised they wouldn't sell out by making gear purchasable (obviously Hero Siege is a much smaller game/set). I think the Hero Siege developers don't really care what people think, they want the monies and they're going to do it regardless of what people think and little kids are going to spend their money getting what they want - most are going to lose $$$ and a few may come out with cool stuff.

It's just a form of gambling. If it was cosmetics only, it would be a different story, but adding a lootbox mechanic with gear is a bad idea in ANY game in my opinion when it involves REAL money.
Last edited by Nick; Jul 8, 2020 @ 7:46pm
Ginjii Raishin Jul 9, 2020 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by X1|Nick:
This reminds me of the time when RIFT went free to play and the developers promised they wouldn't sell out by making gear purchasable (obviously Hero Siege is a much smaller game/set). I think the Hero Siege developers don't really care what people think, they want the monies and they're going to do it regardless of what people think and little kids are going to spend their money getting what they want - most are going to lose $$$ and a few may come out with cool stuff.

It's just a form of gambling. If it was cosmetics only, it would be a different story, but adding a lootbox mechanic with gear is a bad idea in ANY game in my opinion when it involves REAL money.
It's only skins though. No actual items. Just skins with rarity based off the in game item types. You cannot get actual gear or any aspect of Pay2Win from this.
Nick Jul 9, 2020 @ 8:45am 
As long as it's skins, that's fine, good good. It would be kind of funny if they pulled a RIFT/Trion Worlds power move and started off with cosmetics and then moved to item lootboxes though, funny and sad. Hopefully they just stay with cosmetics like you guys are saying. Fingers crossed, hope for the best.

I've seen too many games go down this path and then join the dark side.
Last edited by Nick; Jul 9, 2020 @ 8:46am
Cookie Jul 9, 2020 @ 8:50am 
Like i said.. Skins are one thing. Some people will be drawn to buying the boxes because they can house actual loot. That's their choice. Id start boycotting the developers if they would do something like reducing normal drop rates to push people to buy boxes. Lets just hope that doesn't happen.
Ginjii Raishin Jul 9, 2020 @ 10:51am 
Hey ,Cookie. I already apologized to Faunts but sorry I got mad and said some stupid ♥♥♥♥ in your topic. I was on a bad place mentally and regret a log of what I posted on severally places over the last few weeks. I doubt anyone cares that I'm sorry but I felt an apology was appropriate.
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