Will the Satanic gear drop chances get buffed?

[Chesmu]

There are several classes with several special stats like Strength only. The odds of a perfect satanic drop that suits your character's class is way less than 0.1% !!!

[Ordack]

I've been asking that question for a week in the forums and in discord, I never got an answer.
I would not expect any change on this.

[PaYa]

Yea i think they shuld chance it now its more of a grindfeast for rubys =S

[Chesmu]

Whelp!

[unknown2000]

Yeah, I had to make a completely new character because I played on Single Player before. It was impossible to get Satanics (1 in 5 days of farming) so I had to give up and go to Multiplayer just to be able to trade with others who have gotten some.

Then I managed to make a character in non-season and apparently nobody plays that so I got that character to level 100 for nothing and had to start again in Seasonal...

[Emma Frost]

Hey dude based on the devs response in other threads and after giving it some thoughts it's safe to assume that they drastically reduced the satanic drop rate for player retention. With the semi frequent updates, fixes and nerfs they get an influx of returning players and potentially new ones. I do however believe that this strategy works only in short term. The said players will be absolutely discouraged once they realise that the amount of farm they will have to do to play endgame content is ludicrous. I also suspect that the devs are nerfing classes and everything else directly based on the leaderboard, abusers and suggestions of a very small group of players. What about the average players though? How about buffing the drop rate for solo players/ offline players. Those playing for the leaderboard could get harsher drop rates/ lower exp and what not. They could also implement more ways of getting satanics like recycling a huge amount of mythics or even owned satanics for chances to reroll (items rolled that way could be untradble if need be) After several hours of grind with 1.3k magic find I have obtained about 18 satanics, 7 of which are of use to me and still no class weapon. As an offline player, I cannot imagine farming 50 more hours in hopes of a decent drop. With that said kudos to the devs for keeping the game alive and kicking, God did it evolve since 2014! Hopefully the gameplay gets better in the near future but for now i'm truly done. Sorry for the rant.

TL;DR: The drop rate for satanic gear is really low to keep players in, the game right now is being massively nerfed presumably due to the seasonal ladder/ abusers/ a small group of players (elites). Proposed a few ways to get satanics and finally I love the game but I can't bear to grind 50 more hours to get a decent drop.

[Chesmu]

Publicado originalmente por 碧昂丝 (Beyoncé):

Hey dude based on the devs response in other threads and after giving it some thoughts it's safe to assume that they drastically reduced the satanic drop rate for player retention. With the semi frequent updates, fixes and nerfs they get an influx of returning players and potentially new ones. I do however believe that this strategy works only in short term. The said players will be absolutely discouraged once they realise that the amount of farm they will have to do to play endgame content is ludicrous. I also suspect that the devs are nerfing classes and everything else directly based on the leaderboard, abusers and suggestions of a very small group of players. What about the average players though? How about buffing the drop rate for solo players/ offline players. Those playing for the leaderboard could get harsher drop rates/ lower exp and what not. They could also implement more ways of getting satanics like recycling a huge amount of mythics or even owned satanics for chances to reroll (items rolled that way could be untradble if need be) After several hours of grind with 1.3k magic find I have obtained about 18 satanics, 7 of which are of use to me and still no class weapon. As an offline player, I cannot imagine farming 50 more hours in hopes of a decent drop. With that said kudos to the devs for keeping the game alive and kicking, God did it evolve since 2014! Hopefully the gameplay gets better in the near future but for now i'm truly done. Sorry for the rant.

TL;DR: The drop rate for satanic gear is really low to keep players in, the game right now is being massively nerfed presumably due to the seasonal ladder/ abusers/ a small group of players (elites). Proposed a few ways to get satanics and finally I love the game but I can't bear to grind 50 more hours to get a decent drop.

Completely agreed with all the points. This is really frustrating than fun.

[MrSpockY]

Publicado originalmente por 碧昂丝 (Beyoncé):

Hey dude based on the devs response in other threads and after giving it some thoughts it's safe to assume that they drastically reduced the satanic drop rate for player retention. With the semi frequent updates, fixes and nerfs they get an influx of returning players and potentially new ones. I do however believe that this strategy works only in short term. The said players will be absolutely discouraged once they realise that the amount of farm they will have to do to play endgame content is ludicrous. I also suspect that the devs are nerfing classes and everything else directly based on the leaderboard, abusers and suggestions of a very small group of players. What about the average players though? How about buffing the drop rate for solo players/ offline players. Those playing for the leaderboard could get harsher drop rates/ lower exp and what not. They could also implement more ways of getting satanics like recycling a huge amount of mythics or even owned satanics for chances to reroll (items rolled that way could be untradble if need be) After several hours of grind with 1.3k magic find I have obtained about 18 satanics, 7 of which are of use to me and still no class weapon. As an offline player, I cannot imagine farming 50 more hours in hopes of a decent drop. With that said kudos to the devs for keeping the game alive and kicking, God did it evolve since 2014! Hopefully the gameplay gets better in the near future but for now i'm truly done. Sorry for the rant.

TL;DR: The drop rate for satanic gear is really low to keep players in, the game right now is being massively nerfed presumably due to the seasonal ladder/ abusers/ a small group of players (elites). Proposed a few ways to get satanics and finally I love the game but I can't bear to grind 50 more hours to get a decent drop.

the low droprate for satanics is what made me quit after hell. The grind to play inferno is unreal. played last hell act for around 4-5 hours with around ilvl 135 items to not get any upgrades at all.
(while some higher ilvl drops accoured sometimes they stats didnt helped my build at all).
Anf farming rubys all day to buy satanics without a market system isnt fun at all either.
Droprates needs to get buffed heavily

[Bolkmar]

But there's more ... if you join your country server and observe that there's people with 10 or less Hero Level RANKED and FULL SATANIC equipment. You will notice that it's happening something strange and I'm sure those people don't waste time on farm items ... so ..... what the hell is really going on with drops ... max items I got with 12k MF in 6 day are 20 .... and 4-5 of them only for my main character.

[Shrank]

Publicado originalmente por El tío presis:

But there's more ... if you join your country server and observe that there's people with 10 or less Hero Level RANKED and FULL SATANIC equipment. You will notice that it's happening something strange and I'm sure those people don't waste time on farm items ... so ..... what the hell is really going on with drops ... max items I got with 12k MF in 6 day are 20 .... and 4-5 of them only for my main character.

I saw already ALOT people around 5 Hero level on ALL servers with full red items set and I must say it's strange. Before anyone say maybe they bought this items on discord i will ask first how they got so much rubys for all that items in 5 hero levels. Keep in mind some of they items are already abit upgraded so they spent rubys on upgrading them. Anyway some of this items they got was high quality ones or very rare so they wasn't cheap like 2k rubys.

[Iceberg]

@Shrank I was with full satanics at around that level and you're right - the trade was the way. I got 3 items cheap (10k each), 2 actual drops and later a 90% Flamecannon for 50k and upgraded a few items to level 4 I think. You get that many rubies by farming King's Garden on hell and Mining Site A, it doesn't give that much exp on Hell I guess (I'm hero level 11 now). With this droprate that's the only way you can get satanics early on I guess, I uninstalled the game yesterday because I no longer find this grindfest fun.

[Shrank]

Publicado originalmente por Iceberg:

@Shrank I was with full satanics at around that level and you're right - the trade was the way. I got 3 items cheap (10k each), 2 actual drops and later a 90% Flamecannon for 50k and upgraded a few items to level 4 I think. You get that many rubies by farming King's Garden on hell and Mining Site A, it doesn't give that much exp on Hell I guess (I'm hero level 11 now). With this droprate that's the only way you can get satanics early on I guess, I uninstalled the game yesterday because I no longer find this grindfest fun.

I farmed King's Garden on Hell myself till 15 Hero level. Still i have few purple items. Bought 2 items on Discord and dropped 3 other for my class myself. Rest items i dropped that wasn't for my class i sold that's why i got rubys for trading and upgrades. But again i will say i still have few purples and my red items are upgraded 5/10 max and i have 15 Hero level. So ye :(

[Deadly2Die]

ill hope they sink the chance ^^ because grinding is most fun!

[Chesmu]

Publicado originalmente por Deadly2Die:

ill hope they sink the chance ^^ because grinding is most fun!

It's not after a while. It becomes a frustrating chore.

[Inasogard]

Good luck getting a Dev to respond to this. I only see them active on Discord, not much here on Steam. I don't think they even play their own game. If they did, they probably give themselves rubies and gear. If they actually tried to farm for it, they would see how bad the drop rates are.

I have given up and gone to farming rubies, and might even just drop the game period. I won't spend another dime on any content until they fix the drop rates and if I could, I would refund it.

Three complete runs through inferno with over 750% Magic Find, from the beginning of act 1 all the way to the end killing Mervious. Doing all maps and all bosses and did not get one single Satanic item. Isn't the goal to kill stuff and farm for gear and run wormholes to push to higher levels? Makes me laugh when you are forced to farm just rubies to trade for gear on discord. If they are going to make us do that, at least put in an in game auction house. But what do we know, Devs are all superior beings and do what they want.

[Chesmu]

Publicado originalmente por Inasogard:

Good luck getting a Dev to respond to this. I only see them active on Discord, not much here on Steam. I don't think they even play their own game. If they did, they probably give themselves rubies and gear. If they actually tried to farm for it, they would see how bad the drop rates are.

I have given up and gone to farming rubies, and might even just drop the game period. I won't spend another dime on any content until they fix the drop rates and if I could, I would refund it.

Three complete runs through inferno with over 750% Magic Find, from the beginning of act 1 all the way to the end killing Mervious. Doing all maps and all bosses and did not get one single Satanic item. Isn't the goal to kill stuff and farm for gear and run wormholes to push to higher levels? Makes me laugh when you are forced to farm just rubies to trade for gear on discord. If they are going to make us do that, at least put in an in game auction house. But what do we know, Devs are all superior beings and do what they want.

I think that they should have an official shop for satanics to trade them for rubies. Just like how we buy skins (hats) with rubies. That will prevent more than enough farming of rubies and potential expensive scams that newbies fall in. But the easier way is to buff the chances.