Removed from other online stores? (Fanatical, GMG...)

[Dezzy]

I was checking on prices, and noticed the game is no longer listed on greenmangaming or Fanatical's websites. They had some decent discounts before but I wanted to wait and see if they went even cheaper. Now they're totally gone.

Pretty strange.

[mahava]

Could be they ran out of greykeys. i see some sell it still, with a disclaimer that the preorder bonus might not be included (that i will read as it isnt ) , not great prices considered that imo

[Melodia]

Originally posted by mahava:

Could be they ran out of greykeys.

Grey? The sites the OP is talking about are 100% legit sites that get their keys directly from the publisher.

[_TillyTony_]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by mahava:

Could be they ran out of greykeys.

Grey? The sites the OP is talking about are 100% legit sites that get their keys directly from the publisher.

Grey as in they do not have permission to be selling the game. Hence why it got removed.

[mahava]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by mahava:

Could be they ran out of greykeys.

Grey? The sites the OP is talking about are 100% legit sites that get their keys directly from the publisher.

They are not official retailers, only Steam and Epic is , and yeah i do urge you to do the homework on key reseler sites ...

[matheod]

I was wondering the same. I saw a good sale on fanatical but wanted to wait to see if humble bundle could do better, then everything disapeared, I am a little disappointed :(

[Melodia]

Originally posted by mahava:

They are not official retailers, only Steam and Epic is , and yeah i do urge you to do the homework on key reseler sites ...

I've done my homework. That's why I've bought many games from GMG and some from Fanatical as well, because, well they are in fact official retailers.

Just for example Sega:
https://privacy.sega.com/en/sega-europe-approved-partner-list
Fanatical is on there.

Haven't been about to find any lists like that for other companies alas, but notices the lack of certain key sites on various sites that only list legit ones:
https://isthereanydeal.com/shops/
https://www.cheapshark.com/browse
https://rgamedeals.net/

Notice which sites are missing from those?

[_TillyTony_]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by mahava:

They are not official retailers, only Steam and Epic is , and yeah i do urge you to do the homework on key reseler sites ...

I've done my homework. That's why I've bought many games from GMG and some from Fanatical as well, because, well they are in fact official retailers.

Just for example Sega:
https://privacy.sega.com/en/sega-europe-approved-partner-list
Fanatical is on there.

Haven't been about to find any lists like that for other companies alas, but notices the lack of certain key sites on various sites that only list legit ones:
https://isthereanydeal.com/shops/
https://www.cheapshark.com/browse
https://rgamedeals.net/

Notice which sites are missing from those?

You are confusing yourself! Just because they are a legit company that does legit business does not mean they have permission from Frontier to sell the pre order!

[Dezzy]

Originally posted by _TillyTony_:

Originally posted by Melodia:

I've done my homework. That's why I've bought many games from GMG and some from Fanatical as well, because, well they are in fact official retailers.

Just for example Sega:
https://privacy.sega.com/en/sega-europe-approved-partner-list
Fanatical is on there.

Haven't been about to find any lists like that for other companies alas, but notices the lack of certain key sites on various sites that only list legit ones:
https://isthereanydeal.com/shops/
https://www.cheapshark.com/browse
https://rgamedeals.net/

Notice which sites are missing from those?

You are confusing yourself! Just because they are a legit company that does legit business does not mean they have permission from Frontier to sell the pre order!

They get the keys from Frontier.

I sent emails to the online stores, and a rep from one of the stores said that Frontier will not be proving any more keys to any websites for PC2. My guess is because of the 15%+ discount they were offering vs the full price on Steam.

[_TillyTony_]

Originally posted by Dezzy:

Originally posted by _TillyTony_:

You are confusing yourself! Just because they are a legit company that does legit business does not mean they have permission from Frontier to sell the pre order!

They get the keys from Frontier.

I sent emails to the online stores, and a rep from one of the stores said that Frontier will not be proving any more keys to any websites for PC2. My guess is because of the 15%+ discount they were offering vs the full price on Steam.

You sent an email to the store and expect them to be the authority? Frontier have obviously contacted all of these sites and told them to take down the game!

[Melodia]

Originally posted by _TillyTony_:

You sent an email to the store and expect them to be the authority? Frontier have obviously contacted all of these sites and told them to take down the game!

You seem misinformed about how these sites work. They can't exactly make keys out of thin air, they have to get them from somewhere. Unless you are accusing them of being actual shady retailers (i.e. ones NOT on the sites I linked above) how else could they haven't gotten their keys is not from Frontier?

And if they were so shady as you claim, why would they listen to Frontier in the first place?

[_TillyTony_]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by _TillyTony_:

You sent an email to the store and expect them to be the authority? Frontier have obviously contacted all of these sites and told them to take down the game!

You seem misinformed about how these sites work. They can't exactly make keys out of thin air, they have to get them from somewhere. Unless you are accusing them of being actual shady retailers (i.e. ones NOT on the sites I linked above) how else could they haven't gotten their keys is not from Frontier?

And if they were so shady as you claim, why would they listen to Frontier in the first place?

Im saying they probably put the game up thinking they will be an official retailer because of the relationship they have with Frontier and other developers. Frontier decided that they only want to offer the pre order in a few places so asked the other sites to take down their listing. Im not saying anything nefarious or underhand is going on. Im just saying they are not official sellers of the pre order! Thats why i used the word "grey market" and not "Black market". They are not dodgy but prematurely listed the game before they had permission.

[firemaiden9510]

Originally posted by _TillyTony_:

Originally posted by Melodia:

You seem misinformed about how these sites work. They can't exactly make keys out of thin air, they have to get them from somewhere. Unless you are accusing them of being actual shady retailers (i.e. ones NOT on the sites I linked above) how else could they haven't gotten their keys is not from Frontier?

And if they were so shady as you claim, why would they listen to Frontier in the first place?

Im saying they probably put the game up thinking they will be an official retailer because of the relationship they have with Frontier and other developers. Frontier decided that they only want to offer the pre order in a few places so asked the other sites to take down their listing. Im not saying anything nefarious or underhand is going on. Im just saying they are not official sellers of the pre order! Thats why i used the word "grey market" and not "Black market". They are not dodgy but prematurely listed the game before they had permission.

Literally not how these sites work....

If anything happened it's that Frontier realized they would make less money listing the keys on these other sites because they often have discount codes people can use. Like the discount you get for being on Humble Bundle Monthly. Or the 5% off code you get from making any purchase on fanatical.

Frontier just realized that selling on those sites would take away from sales on steam.

[_TillyTony_]

Originally posted by firemaiden9510:

Originally posted by _TillyTony_:

Im saying they probably put the game up thinking they will be an official retailer because of the relationship they have with Frontier and other developers. Frontier decided that they only want to offer the pre order in a few places so asked the other sites to take down their listing. Im not saying anything nefarious or underhand is going on. Im just saying they are not official sellers of the pre order! Thats why i used the word "grey market" and not "Black market". They are not dodgy but prematurely listed the game before they had permission.

Literally not how these sites work....

If anything happened it's that Frontier realized they would make less money listing the keys on these other sites because they often have discount codes people can use. Like the discount you get for being on Humble Bundle Monthly. Or the 5% off code you get from making any purchase on fanatical.

Frontier just realized that selling on those sites would take away from sales on steam.

Its exactly how these sites work. How many sites put up listing of games before they even get announced! Its how they get traffic to the site.

[Melodia]

Originally posted by _TillyTony_:

How many sites put up listing of games before they even get announced

Uh.....none?

[Knightwolf]

Originally posted by _TillyTony_:

Originally posted by Melodia:

You seem misinformed about how these sites work. They can't exactly make keys out of thin air, they have to get them from somewhere. Unless you are accusing them of being actual shady retailers (i.e. ones NOT on the sites I linked above) how else could they haven't gotten their keys is not from Frontier?

And if they were so shady as you claim, why would they listen to Frontier in the first place?

Im saying they probably put the game up thinking they will be an official retailer because of the relationship they have with Frontier and other developers. Frontier decided that they only want to offer the pre order in a few places so asked the other sites to take down their listing. Im not saying anything nefarious or underhand is going on. Im just saying they are not official sellers of the pre order! Thats why i used the word "grey market" and not "Black market". They are not dodgy but prematurely listed the game before they had permission.

it might have been both valve and frontier, Steam provides the keys to other sites like to Fanatical and GMG

all legit sites here https://isthereanydeal.com they might be mixing up GMG and G2A
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys