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CommanderWaffle Mar 4, 2016 @ 6:32pm
Warden Armor v Spider Armor
So was was excited to finally get warden armor, but after building it for the squad, I realized that spider armor is superior. Seriously (+20 defense / +1 mobility) beats out (+2 hp / +1 armor) every time in my opinion. Do you guys think that warden armor is even worth building?
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azmountaintroll Mar 4, 2016 @ 6:41pm 
I take far more casualties from explosives and other area effect weapons than direct fire, so defense doesn't benefit me much.
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gimmethegepgun Mar 4, 2016 @ 6:42pm 
Warden Armor has 2 utility slots. Spider/Wraith armor only have 1.
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Walther III Mar 4, 2016 @ 6:46pm 
Warden Armor gives you more slots
More slots = more grenades
Is there any situation in which you won't want more grenades?
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Algol Mar 4, 2016 @ 6:51pm 
2 slots for 1 grenade and 1 mimic beacon
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Temper Mar 4, 2016 @ 7:06pm 
Warden,WAR,Wraith all have their uses.It's up to the individual to define what's going to be usefull for any particular soldier on any particular mission.
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Temper Mar 4, 2016 @ 7:20pm 
Originally posted by Flammey:
Originally posted by Walther Eghus II:
Warden Armor gives you more slots
More slots = more grenades
Is there any situation in which you won't want more grenades?

I dunno about that. I think extra slots only gives you extra items. Can't have more than 1 grenade, unless their job lets you, or something lets you. I have 2 slots in some of my gear, and I can only seem to have an extra grenade with Grenaders. I just use they extra slot for Medi-kits, or, maybe Story necessary items. Not going to say what item that is, but I'm sure people know what I am talking about. Can never have enough people with that story item on.

Look at it this way.With the extra slot you can now take a grenade and an item.Without the extra slot you have to choose one or the other.Utility items are pretty powerfull.

Having said that,spider/wraith/exo/WAR suits may provide the utility the soldier needs innately making the extra slot moot.
Last edited by Temper; Mar 4, 2016 @ 7:26pm
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Temper Mar 4, 2016 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Flammey:
Yeah, that's what I said I did.

It's what he said too.In a more vague kind of way. hehehe

=P
Last edited by Temper; Mar 4, 2016 @ 7:31pm
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SamBC Mar 5, 2016 @ 2:00am 
You also have to build each suit of spider one at a time with an elerium core, while warden armour you buy once and get an unlimited number.
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IRMcG Mar 5, 2016 @ 6:59am 
Spider's useful on Rangers and Snipers, at least the way I use those classes. The single gear slot isn't a big deal for me by the time I can build those. Suit dodge plus PCS dodge plus grapple works well for my scouts and fast climbing for my DFA snipers.

Warden's better generally though, that third gear slot alone's worth having if nothing else.
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Ender Mar 5, 2016 @ 7:02am 
Originally posted by Flammey:
I dunno about that. I think extra slots only gives you extra items. Can't have more than 1 grenade, unless their job lets you, or something lets you. I have 2 slots in some of my gear, and I can only seem to have an extra grenade with Grenaders. I just use they extra slot for Medi-kits, or, maybe Story necessary items. Not going to say what item that is, but I'm sure people know what I am talking about. Can never have enough people with that story item on.

Battle scanner, mimic beacon, special ammo, the utility armors. Losing the utility slot is an absolutely huge disadvantage in this game.
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kahless2001 Mar 5, 2016 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by SamBC:
You also have to build each suit of spider one at a time with an elerium core, while warden armour you buy once and get an unlimited number.

This is the key difference. Spider armour is a relatively expensive and specialised item. Warden armour is relatively cheap and generic upgrade.
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orion winterfire Mar 5, 2016 @ 9:51am 
The 2 shouldn't be versus each other. Ideally you'll use both
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pedal_pusher Mar 5, 2016 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by Walther Eghus II:
Warden Armor gives you more slots
More slots = more grenades
Is there any situation in which you won't want more grenades?

When you can have a rocket launcher instead
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Mike Mar 5, 2016 @ 11:57am 
its +20 dodge, not +20 defence. massive difference between those two things.
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Exarch_Alpha Mar 5, 2016 @ 12:54pm 
Originally posted by SamBC:
You also have to build each suit of spider one at a time with an elerium core, while warden armour you buy once and get an unlimited number.

Pretty much this. It´s also the principle why rifles are always the first thing to be researched, they are needed for the rookies

I don´t think more than one Spider armor should be put on any team... 2 tops but no more than that. It really is about balanced teams being more flexible and thus overall better.

Dodge is RNG related and my Psi Op with Wraith armor didn´t last long in stage A of the final sequence. Bloody game...
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