On the Untouchable achievement (please dev's. fix it)

[Gorsameth]

After some more testing I can now confirm that the 2 scripted deaths during the Tutorial count against the Untouchable Achievement (no soldier deaths).

Please developers, fix this.
Since these deaths are entirely unavoidable (unless you start without the tutorial) they should not be counted.

[Wealthy Peasant]

Play without the tutorial?

[Xerica]

You have to play commander+ difficulty to get that achievement. and the tutorial is turned off period for that difficulty setting.

[Gorsameth]

Originally posted by Zerican34:

You have to play commander+ difficulty to get that achievement. and the tutorial is turned off period for that difficulty setting.

Nope you can play the tutorial on commander.

Originally posted by Wealthy Peasant:

Play without the tutorial?

Obviously yes, but why do the tutorial deaths even count against it when they are unavoidable?
If you do the tutorial the ending screen will even say 0 soldiers lost despite not granting the achievement.

[traumspieler]

Looks like he didn't test THAT much *lol*

[Gorsameth]

Originally posted by traumspieler:

Looks like he didn't test THAT much *lol*

did you?

I finished the game once on Commander with the tutorial and did not get the achievement.
I then did another game (again Commander) without the tutorial and did get the achievement.

If you have done more testing and have a different result, by all means share it

[Rogue]

Visit the bar and check if there's death memorials.

[Sam]

Sounds fair to me. You lost soldiers. It's not a bug, as designed.

[Gorsameth]

Originally posted by Sam:

Sounds fair to me. You lost soldiers. It's not a bug, as designed.

So why does the end statistic screen with only the 2 soldiers lost during the tutorial say 0 soldiers lost?

[BoydofZINJ]

If you use saves you can EASILY beat the game with no deaths and injuries... and i use the term easily lightly since it just requires you to load and do different movements.

[Scooter]

Originally posted by BoydofZINJ:

If you use saves you can EASILY beat the game with no deaths and injuries... and i use the term easily lightly since it just requires you to load and do different movements.

I think you missed what the whole discussion was about. I too have finished the game on Commander difficulty, stats screen says I lost no soldiers, but because I did the tutorial, I didn't get the achievement.

[Phrixscreoth]

While people are testing this- what about mind controlled gatekeeper psizombies? Do they count against the achievement?

[Eric_Kei]

Originally posted by Rogue:

Visit the bar and check if there's death memorials.

The two unavoidable deaths show up in the Memorial/Bar, but NOT in the post-game summary screen.

[Gorsameth]

Originally posted by Phrixscreoth:

While people are testing this- what about mind controlled gatekeeper psizombies? Do they count against the achievement?

Psizombies and mind controlled aliens do not count. Just Xcom Soldiers