Shen's last gift

[Quebec Dragon]

So it's pretty early in the game, my fourth mission or so, and most of my best guys are wounded, so I cannot use them. When I get that mysterious transmission, it says I have 3 days to investigate. If I don't start that mission within 3 days, do I lose it forever? Am I stuck with rookies on a difficult mission?

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

Scan for the mission, to access the launchable mission recon, but don't go there until you're ready. The scans will expire but the actual mission won't.

[Quebec Dragon]

That's good to know. Thank you for your answer. I did try that mission and manged to get to the last floor, but I doubt I'll be able to beat that part. Might just have to reload before that whole mission begins.

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

Tech wise, you can finish the mission on tier 1 gear so long as you've bought the GTS perk that adds two extra squadmates to your team and you go in with several Specialists with you, not just with Lily. The best ones to go with you on this mission are two healer assists (Medical Protocol + that Perk that adds two additional uses for medikits) and two Hackers (Haywire Protocol + that additional two medikit charges perk). As for your sixth squadmate preferrably a Grnadier with Shred for killing the end mission boss.

Timeline, continuity wise you should start the mission AFTER you've met a MEC for the very first time. Or hang back until you've met a certain robotic enemy before you do the mission because it kinda doesn't make sense when Bradford knows what the end mission boss is when you haven't even encountered one yet outside of this mission.

[Adeptus Stark]

When I first purchased the DLC, I started a new game and did that mission as soon as I can. Big mistake if you like keeping every soldier alive like me lol.

[KRON]

I did that mission with tier 3 weapons and had exactly zero problems. My sniper-gunslinger with bluescreen rounds could one-shot any robot with a pistol, and Julian at the end didn't even have a chance to fire. And I didn't even have to use any Lily Shen's ability.

[Jesterofgames7712]

Originally posted by Cahos Rahne Veloza:

Tech wise, you can finish the mission on tier 1 gear so long as you've bought the GTS perk that adds two extra squadmates to your team and you go in with several Specialists with you, not just with Lily. The best ones to go with you on this mission are two healer assists (Medical Protocol + that Perk that adds two additional uses for medikits) and two Hackers (Haywire Protocol + that additional two medikit charges perk). As for your sixth squadmate preferrably a Grnadier with Shred for killing the end mission boss.

Timeline, continuity wise you should start the mission AFTER you've met a MEC for the very first time. Or hang back until you've met a certain robotic enemy before you do the mission because it kinda doesn't make sense when Bradford knows what the end mission boss is when you haven't even encountered one yet outside of this mission.

I've beaten shin's last gift with nothing but 5 soldiers and teir one gear
Lily's ability's are out right broken for this mission for a reason
she has no limit on any of her abilitys aside from turn limit cooldowns
and grenadiers are helpful for shready armor for your sniper to help blast holes in The final bosses armor

And "it kinda doesn't make sense when bradford knows what the end mission boss is when you haven't even encountered one yet"
Um yes it does
YOU Haven't encoutnered one but remeber the aliens have taken over the planet for 20 years

Not to mention Tygen and bradford mention enemy names the second you meet them
they obviously have plenty of experince with the alien strike force

Tygen could have easily told him what the boss in the dlc was
or heck he could have met one before

[Quebec Dragon]

I got that mission before the end of the first month, probably my 4th mission. I only had 3 people available for the squad from my roster, two of them recruits, and certainly no extra slots. No grenadiers. It seems to me that I got that mission way too soon.

[KRON]

Originally posted by Quebec Dragon:

I got that mission before the end of the first month, probably my 4th mission. I only had 3 people available for the squad from my roster, two of them recruits, and certainly no extra slots. No grenadiers. It seems to me that I got that mission way too soon.

You can get the misson pretty early(as well as Alien Rulers one), but you don't have to do it that early.

[Scorrp10]

You get the mission early but can postpone it forever. I did try it with size 4 squad, pretty much my gatecrasher crew with spec replaced by Lily. All corporals, too. It was ok until roof, but there I wiped. The key to floor 2 is just dash and hide next to elevators out of turret LoS.

Once you do a MEC breakdown and run BS protocol project, doing this mission with BS ammo, emp grenades and extra spec with M2 gremlin and a few more ranks on your troops is real easy.

[Quebec Dragon]

Yes. Thanks for confirming what Cahos wrote. But when you think about it, most people won't know that this isn't a time-limited mission, especially this early in the game when you're still learning the game concepts. So for me, bad design decision.

[Majorlag]

Like Alien Hunters, I did this pretty early on. I may have had a five man squad, but only had tier 1 equipment. I had to replay the roof portion a few times, but Lilly makes the whole thing pretty doable. This is at Veteran difficulty, so if you're playing at a higher difficulty adjust appropriately.

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

Originally posted by Jesterofgames7712:

And "it kinda doesn't make sense when bradford knows what the end mission boss is when you haven't even encountered one yet"
Um yes it does
YOU Haven't encoutnered one but remeber the aliens have taken over the planet for 20 years

You totally missed the point :P

So okay, let's say you did the mission as soon as you get the mission and encountered that end boss I mentioned. Now fast forward to when you are supposed to meet one of it in the campaign, usually around the Alien Forge mission. Or by around June and you hear Lily tell you about how dangerous it is. Now does it make sense that lily would not remember encountering one of it earlier and Bradford telling you about it earlier? :P

[Jesterofgames7712]

Originally posted by Cahos Rahne Veloza:

Originally posted by Jesterofgames7712:

And "it kinda doesn't make sense when bradford knows what the end mission boss is when you haven't even encountered one yet"
Um yes it does
YOU Haven't encoutnered one but remeber the aliens have taken over the planet for 20 years

You totally missed the point :P

So okay, let's say you did the mission as soon as you get the mission and encountered that end boss I mentioned. Now fast forward to when you are supposed to meet one of it in the campaign, usually around the Alien Forge mission. Or by around June and you hear Lily tell you about how dangerous it is. Now does it make sense that lily would not remember encountering one of it earlier and Bradford telling you about it earlier? :P

No you phrased it compleatly diffrently

You said It doesn't make sense when bradford knows what the end mission boss is when you haven't encountered it yet

And then you rephrased it to
It doesn't make sense that everybody forgot you encountered one in the Shens last gift DLC
if you encounter one later

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

@Jesterofgames7712:

Ah to hell with spoilers, seeing as you're to dense to see the point :P

OK let me simplify:

Do SLG mission in April. At the end of the mission you encounter a Sectopod. Then you continue the campaign, then in June the game introduces the Sectopod for the first time. Continuity breakage.

Actually doing the mission BEFORE you meet MECs for the first time also kinda breaks co0ntinuity, seeing as Lily usually tells you about MECs when you do the Black site vial mission or on a mission after the first retaliation (where Fqaceless are introduced). But because you did SLG ahead of the proper campaign timeline the game assumes you (the player/commander) already know what MECs and Sectopods are even before you properly met one in the first place. Sure an oversight like this is fine for an XCOM EU player playing XCOM 2, but assuming a newbie to the game knows of something they haven't seen yet before is kinda asking too much.

If it's still too hard for you to comprehend...

Let's say you were reading a nursery rhyme like "Jack and Jill" for the first time. We all know that Jack and Jill climbed a hill to fetch a pail of water, but Jack suddenly slipped, fell and broke his crown and Jill came tumbling after. Now let's say the story was told this way...

"Jack and Jill came tumbling after the pail that broke its crown up the hill"

... now does that make sense?

[Jesterofgames7712]

@Cahos
AGAIN I SAY THE WAY YOU PHRASED IT WAS WEIRD

the way you phrased it
Or the way i read it Was that bradford shouldn't know about the sectopod at all Since you haven't meet one yet

The miscommunication was how you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ phrased the damn Sentence

IF you had said

They tell you about the sectopods twice breaking contanuity
That would have been better

Though i don't know why The alien introductions arn't shut off with beginner V.O.'s to stop things like this what ever

DON'T BLAME ME FOR MISUNDERSTANDING THE POINT WHEN THE POINT IS and i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ quote Part of your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sentence it's self "kinda doesn't make sense when Bradford knows what the end mission boss is when you haven't even encountered one yet outside of this mission."

you know like it doesn't make sence that bradford knows what a sectopod is when you haven't encountered one

And not
They are breaking continuity by introducing a sectopod twice

just say
"It doesn't make sense that people forget you've already met a sectopod once before when it reapperes later on"

OH also
if you do wait that long it makes the mission compleatly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy
making me suspect it was suppose to be taken on when you had teir one or teir 2 gear