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Jin 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:38
Pure Lost missions are boring/repetitive.
So I have been playing the new expansion for quite some time (30 hours) and I like every change except the 100% Lost missions where there are no ADVENT troops at all. They are mostly escort or rescue missions and are boring as hell. It's simply ladder blocking and high ground abuse and takes forever. They really bore me to death and are not hard or tactical at all, just cheesing through blocking ladders.

Anyone else? If there was a mod to remove pure Lost missions I would instantly enable that. I have no problem with XCOM/Lost/ADVENT missions, but purely XCOM/Lost are so BAD!
最后由 Jin 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:40
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KRON 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 4:28 
I don't know. I've had some fun with this kind of mission.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIelT0c_n0
X-the Unknown 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 4:45 
Ladder camping? Thas an interesting concept. :)
SertanDoom 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 4:58 
引用自 SLAYAH
Ladder camping? Thas an interesting concept. :)
The lost are polite enough to wait until the ladder is clear before using it.
Aurorablade 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 5:00 
You could also just leave a 1 block gap at the top of the ladder for them to come up and just place a Templar / Ranger with the melee buffs and bladestorm. Not put this one into practice myself yet but I don't see why it wouldn't be capable of working. Bladestorm is probably the most popular method of getting through Lost missions.
Fringehunter7719 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 5:04 
My current run is Grim Horizon, the very first dark event to trigger was lost world.

It's actually made the campaign easier through excessive promotions, but every mission takes ages. I have multiple soldiers with 200+ kills at 15+ per mission on average. Templars, sharpshooters and rangers just destroy lost all day long since I was fortunate enough to get between the eyes early on.
Halfinger 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 5:34 
引用自 darthcuda
I have to agree with OP. There is no challenge (atleast on lower difficulty). Just shoot, shoot, shoot move a few feet repeat. I'm not hating on the game, I love xcom 2 and wotc. I just don't want zombies in every game I play. The first mission with them was fun but It quickly got stale. Everything else about the expansion is pretty sweet though.

Pure lost is a cakewalk usually but I'm happy for the break really.

At higher difficulty they can be tricky as some have quite high health. Although there is a card to make all sucessful shots an instant kill which would be very boring I think.

I like them as you can use them to mess with the enemy and if they arrive mid alien encounter (I sometimes set off an explosion to do this deliberately) they can lead to a lot of fun. But I can see why some players will find them boring.
最后由 Halfinger 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 5:36
Aranador 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 5:55 
I really enjoy the lost missions, but my current playthrough has been very stingy with the zommie hoards - perhaps I thinned their numbers too much.
cwayne59 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 6:40 
How do you block the ladders?
Aurorablade 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 9:25 
引用自 cwayne59
How do you block the ladders?

Simply put a unit at the top where the ladder would lead to. Since there's no space for the lost to climb up and occupy, they just loiter around near the base of the ladder or in the immediate area. If you are planning on doing this be sure to block all other ladders and drain pipes that can be climbed or they will just path around to one and climb up from there.
最后由 Aurorablade 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 27 日 下午 9:26
PictusCZ 2017 年 9 月 28 日 上午 12:54 
I would kinda agree... I quite like the idea of "lost", but expected a bit more than just "XP farming"... Think they could kinda use this entity better and in a more interesting way... :-)
Magna Kaizer 2017 年 9 月 28 日 上午 2:32 
Maybe just stop blocking the ladders? I never did it personally and didnt find the pure lost missions super terrible. They would benifit from some different objectives or mission types though protect the device as all lost is a little weird
cwayne59 2017 年 9 月 28 日 上午 2:45 
I dont get all lost missioins,. There are always Covanent Advent on my maps,
最后由 cwayne59 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 28 日 上午 2:45
Nu-men von Kryt !!XD 2017 年 9 月 28 日 上午 8:37 
The thing about the Lost is that the challenge depends on what difficulty your playing and how much RNG will screw you.

Rookie - they are just XP farming

Veteran - mostly as the above with occasional WTF with RNG like for me there were 2 examples of that. First was the first supply raid with caches mission in my first playthrough which resulted in Lost+Advent+Assassin. The second was the same combination but instead of supply raid it was the terror mission and instead of Assassin it was the freaking Hunter.

Commander - well lets just say that the game likes to bring out the swarms quite often even in non horde lost missions. In basic terms GTS is the first thing you build for that +1 squad size and training rookies since those on commander are almost useless in lost missions.
The Captain 2017 年 9 月 28 日 下午 6:48 
I've had some great, memorable Lost missions. The best ones when its mixed with Advent, and a Chosen at the same time. Enemies tend to set off explosives on purpose lol, especially Mechs. On Legend, there are of course more regular enemies, and more Lost to deal with. Quite an experience. I'm on my third/fourth playthrough now, and though they are fun - it does get stale, especially when you do more than one Lost mission close together. It definetly could do with more variation in Lost enemy types, and maps.
wabe 2017 年 9 月 28 日 下午 11:00 
I agree. It also does not help that I have seen like almost 4 exactly same map layouts for the "rescue VIP and the escort from The Horde" missions.

I have restarted the game on Commander many times and usually pretty soon in the beginning Volk asks for this specific mission. At this point I close the game saying to myself I don't want to do this repetive uninteresting mission again...

Some of "The Horde" missions have been pretty sick when the Chosen hop in, but I have seen that like only once.
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