Alien rulers in war of the chosen

[Sir Webby]

Have they said if during a mission you can encounter one of the chosen and an alien ruler at the same time because that would be the purest form of hell if you encountered advent, lost, the chosen and an alien ruler all at the same time

[Medusahead]

No only one or the other will turn up in a mission. They also made the alien rulers easier even though though you can kill them in like 2 or 3 hits as is.

[KRON]

Originally posted by Medusahead:

No only one or the other will turn up in a mission. They also made the alien rulers easier even though though you can kill them in like 2 or 3 hits as is.

Also, Alien Ruler will not show up until you hit its lair. Not sure how are you supposed to find this lair, though.

[Zer0]

Im positive the Rulers not only have their ruler reaction toned down, they wont show up on a mission if a chosen does, and they only activate if you assualt the facility they are at. So they stay at Avatar facilitys and wont leave it until you attack them.

[Evilnapkin]

They really toned them down.

[Medusahead]

Originally posted by KRON:

Originally posted by Medusahead:

No only one or the other will turn up in a mission. They also made the alien rulers easier even though though you can kill them in like 2 or 3 hits as is.

Also, Alien Ruler will not show up until you hit its lair. Not sure how are you supposed to find this lair, though.

The "lair" just means it will show up in an alien avatar facility. After that it will show up randomly in missions until it's beaten.

[Roderick]

Originally posted by Medusahead:

No only one or the other will turn up in a mission. They also made the alien rulers easier even though though you can kill them in like 2 or 3 hits as is.

OO
Did they chopp off the hitpoints?

[Zer0]

Originally posted by Roderick:

Originally posted by Medusahead:

No only one or the other will turn up in a mission. They also made the alien rulers easier even though though you can kill them in like 2 or 3 hits as is.

OO
Did they chopp off the hitpoints?

I think all they did was revisit the ruler reaction. So only offensive moves against it will grant it a ruler reaction. So overwatch, healing, hacking, reloading, moving, attacking another enemy, etc will not trigger a ruler reaction

[Roderick]

Originally posted by Th3Zer0:

Originally posted by Roderick:

OO
Did they chopp off the hitpoints?

I think all they did was revisit the ruler reaction. So only offensive moves against it will grant it a ruler reaction. So overwatch, healing, hacking, reloading, moving, attacking another enemy, etc will not trigger a ruler reaction

Thanks for that info... that really makes them easier. :o

[PsychoDino]

Originally posted by Sir Webby:

Have they said if during a mission you can encounter one of the chosen and an alien ruler at the same time because that would be the purest form of hell if you encountered advent, lost, the chosen and an alien ruler all at the same time

Alien Rulers and Chosen cannot be in the same mission

[CavScout]

Originally posted by Th3Zer0:

Originally posted by Roderick:

OO
Did they chopp off the hitpoints?

I think all they did was revisit the ruler reaction. So only offensive moves against it will grant it a ruler reaction. So overwatch, healing, hacking, reloading, moving, attacking another enemy, etc will not trigger a ruler reaction

Not true. The Rulers activate on both movement and healing.

[.O.]

but they don't activate if they can't see you. So if you have a stealth ranger/reaper spotting, you can just go to town with sharpshooters and they do not react at all. They're basically just free AP and armor now.

[greenlaser]

Originally posted by CavScout:

Originally posted by Th3Zer0:

I think all they did was revisit the ruler reaction. So only offensive moves against it will grant it a ruler reaction. So overwatch, healing, hacking, reloading, moving, attacking another enemy, etc will not trigger a ruler reaction

Not true. The Rulers activate on both movement and healing.

I'm trying to survive a Ruler encounter on Ironman right now, and the details of these interactions are crucial. Can anyone confirm for sure:

• Does movement trigger a Ruler reaction?
  
• Does attacking an enemy other than the Ruler trigger a reaction? If no, would a Templar's Arc Wave trigger a Ruler reaction if the Rend is on a different enemy?

UPDATE: It does trigger a reaction in both cases, even if you're moving out of line of sight. The Templar's Amplify ability also triggers a reaction (even though it could be construed as non-aggressive). Fortunately a lucky repeater shot killed the ruler before I had to pay for what I learned.

[TheOldHat]

I read everywher that they "toned down" the rulers reaction, it's definitely not true. I had just my first encounter with the berserker queen doing the blacksite mission, wich is completely diferent in War of the Chosen, and cant beat her without losing people. I have a full squad with plate armor...the ruler REACTS WITH EVERY ACTION, except for free reloading. Please stop with the "doesn't react with every move" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Zyrrashijn]

Maybe you should read the latest patch notes and learn how they changed ruler reactions.

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

WotC changes to Alien Rulers:

1. They now only start appearing on Sabotage Facility missions and will only respawn on random missions IF you were unable to kill them then and there.

2. They only ever react to your every move IF they have LoS on your soldiers, so keep to their blind spots and you'll be set.

3. The no reactions on "Free" actions have been there since day one of Alien Rulers' launch.