It's Just a Port (not bad or good)

[iLLmEcHaNiCo]

There are 3 kinds of ports.

1) Crappy one's that run WORSE than the console versions they were ported from

2) Straight Ports. Runs pretty much EXACTLY like the console versions.

3) PC tailored ports. Adds in depth graphics options and takes advantage of PC hardware in the right ways. (FOV adjustment, AA, etc.)

For me, this game lands in the "straight" port category. I understand some are having major technical issues, but I haven't had a single crash yet. The game runs a solid 30 FPS with better lighting and native resolutions of 1920x1080 on my monitor. It's not a "bad" port for me, just one that runs slightly better than the console versions it was ported from.

I don't think it's fair to label it as a "bad" port just because it won't run a smooth 60 FPS. As long as the game runs exactly like the console version at your native res, then to me, the port is not good or bad. It's just a port.

Of course, we have ports that take full advantage of PC's. Allowing us to tweak and adjust settings to accomodate our personal tastes as well as adjust performance for our individual hardware. The Evil Within IS NOT that type of port.

And then we have ports like Dark Souls...that's a bad port. We should never be forced to play anything below our native resolutions...ever.

Your arguments are welcome.

[Player One]

But what if its a port and I think the game is good?

Wouldn't that make it a good port

[Rockhead Gaz]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von DamageBot:

But what if its a port and I think the game is good?

Wouldn't that make it a good port

A port of a good game, I think.

[Cynec]

Runs fine for me as well, no crashes or anomalous behaivor. I removed the black bars in options and unlocked the frame rate. I don't know if it's running at the full 60 at all times because I'm not nuerotic enough to run an overlay just to ♥♥♥♥♥ about OMGCONSOLEPORT but I haven't had any screen tearing so I assume it is. I'm guessing most of the people with issues are running AMD for either their CPU or GPU; the good on paper dodgy in practice bargain brand of computer hardware.

[Elrabin]

It's a bad port because I've got a 2560x1080 21:9 aspect ratio monitor, which is VERY close to the cinematic 2.35:1 ratio that the devs said they wanted.

I have black barring in TWO directions. Check this ♥♥♥♥ out.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=337743911

They literally aren't rendering the game in the aspect ratio they claim. They're merely rendering at 1920x1080 and cutting horizontal black boxes in. I can toggle letterboxing off but then I still have vertical black bars despite running the game at 2560x1080.

[Graliv]

I have a 7770 vapor-x, i know the minimun is a gtx 460, but cmon if play with letterbox "on" i got 30 fps in menu, if i take off i got 23 fps "wtf is this", other thing is that if i turn down SSAO wich is most demanding in many games, my fps just increase by 2 , same with other settings, im really not saying this game is bad, but port is far far from good and im not mentioning the crashes, im tired getting games these days and discover that is a bad port.

[supertrooper225]

Well explained OP. That is exactly how I view PC ports as well. Game ran fine for me.

[supertrooper225]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sliced/Apple:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fatal:

When I was growing up I remember a cousin who was a whiney ♥♥♥♥♥ and a gamer. My dad who was concerned told me not to be him. Well what do you know. The internet is full of them.

Interesting, well, when I was growing up we had a smug self centered cousin. He liked to think he knew more then he did. If things went well for him, but not others, he would automatically assume that it was their fault. Then one day we broke his nose. It must have been his fault.

Ease up man. There is no reason for all that. The game has a minimum requirement of an i7 and a gpu that has at least 1 GB of Vram. You have an i5 and a card that barely meets the 1GB requirement. You were bound to run into something with this one. No offense.

[supertrooper225]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sliced/Apple:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von supertrooper225:

Ease up man. There is no reason for all that. The game has a minimum requirement of an i7 and a gpu that has at least 1 GB of Vram. You have an i5 and a card that barely meets the 1GB requirement. You were bound to run into something with this one. No offense.

There was no anger in that post, I was just making a point. The game has no other issues for me other then missing text.

It's all good. Rhetoric was sketchy but whatever. Just saying...

Just because you are having trouble with the game on your machine that does not meet CPU requirements and barely meets GPU requirements does not mean the game is a bad port. That means you are having trouble running it because you don't meet some of the requirements. Some people with an i5 are saying they are running it fine but if you buy the game without meeting requirements you are taking a risk. It is always better to be above the recommended requirements if you can. But if you are well above minimum or just under recommended recommendations you should feel safe.

[iLLmEcHaNiCo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Elrabin:

It's a bad port because I've got a 2560x1080 21:9 aspect ratio monitor, which is VERY close to the cinematic 2.35:1 ratio that the devs said they wanted.

I have black barring in TWO directions. Check this ♥♥♥♥ out.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=337743911

They literally aren't rendering the game in the aspect ratio they claim. They're merely rendering at 1920x1080 and cutting horizontal black boxes in. I can toggle letterboxing off but then I still have vertical black bars despite running the game at 2560x1080.

That IS ♥♥♥♥♥♥. It's also one of the reasons I chose a monitor with 16:9 ratio. I'm a sucker for some AAA franchises and having a screen ratio equivalent to that of the TV in my living room would give me less problems when running a ported console game on my rig.

[Elrabin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von iLLcAtTiVisSiMo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Elrabin:

It's a bad port because I've got a 2560x1080 21:9 aspect ratio monitor, which is VERY close to the cinematic 2.35:1 ratio that the devs said they wanted.

I have black barring in TWO directions. Check this ♥♥♥♥ out.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=337743911

They literally aren't rendering the game in the aspect ratio they claim. They're merely rendering at 1920x1080 and cutting horizontal black boxes in. I can toggle letterboxing off but then I still have vertical black bars despite running the game at 2560x1080.

That IS ♥♥♥♥♥♥. It's also one of the reasons I chose a monitor with 16:9 ratio. I'm a sucker for some AAA franchises and having a screen ratio equivalent to that of the TV in my living room would give me less problems when running a ported console game on my rig.

So far it's the only game in my library that doens't work out of box at 2560x1080.

Shadow of Mordor, Borderlands 2 and PreSequel, Marvel Heroes, Grid 2, Far Cry 3, Blood Dragon and the other 30 games I have installed work just fine.

Just not this piece of crap game.

[Warlord]

No.

There aren't 3 types of "ports". It's either or port or it's not. The term port is to describe the game being ported to the PC platform without changes specific to the platform. That means all ports are bad PC games while games such as Battlefield 4 which have plenty of PC specific features aren't ports at all.

I weep for PC gaming.

[supertrooper225]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Warlord:

No.

There aren't 3 types of "ports". It's either or port or it's not. The term port is to describe the game being ported to the PC platform without changes specific to the platform. That means all ports are bad PC games while games such as Battlefield 4 which have plenty of PC specific features aren't ports at all.

I weep for PC gaming.

PC has always had ports though and far worse ones than this... People have been weeping for PC gaming as long as I can remember. It still very relevant and it isn't going anywhere.

[DogMeat]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von iLLcAtTiVisSiMo:

There are 3 kinds of ports.

1) Crappy one's that run WORSE than the console versions they were ported from

2) Straight Ports. Runs pretty much EXACTLY like the console versions.

3) PC tailored ports. Adds in depth graphics options and takes advantage of PC hardware in the right ways. (FOV adjustment, AA, etc.)

For me, this game lands in the "straight" port category. I understand some are having major technical issues, but I haven't had a single crash yet. The game runs a solid 30 FPS with better lighting and native resolutions of 1920x1080 on my monitor. It's not a "bad" port for me, just one that runs slightly better than the console versions it was ported from.

I don't think it's fair to label it as a "bad" port just because it won't run a smooth 60 FPS. As long as the game runs exactly like the console version at your native res, then to me, the port is not good or bad. It's just a port.

Of course, we have ports that take full advantage of PC's. Allowing us to tweak and adjust settings to accomodate our personal tastes as well as adjust performance for our individual hardware. The Evil Within IS NOT that type of port.

And then we have ports like Dark Souls...that's a bad port. We should never be forced to play anything below our native resolutions...ever.

Your arguments are welcome.

By this logic the 2007 Resident Evil 4 PC port was a "Straight Port" as thats exactly what it was, GameCube controller prompts and all. It ran quite well too. Theres far more to a port than its performance, and even if we judge it based on that limited criteria many of us have rigs that are more powerful than the so called next-gen consoles and are receiving poor perfromance etc.

Game is awesome... Port is bad. Accept it or not, I don't know why we're still arguing over it.

[superjunk]

Save your tears, the latest Call of Duty is an excellent port.

[supertrooper225]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Superjunk:

Save your tears, the latest Call of Duty is an excellent port.

Lol, I played 8 call of duty games over the years. I wouldn't play that one if it cooked my dinner. Tired of them.