Need help with the Guptauros.

[otakon17]

Level 12 average party, Normal. He just keeps shredding my entire team with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hit all move, it does 100+ damage and he uses it unfailingly every turn. Back row does nothing, using Knights attract does nothing. I don't have a ton of Ice Chunks but I do have Ice unlocked for everyone. Currently trying it with Seeker/Warrior/Knight. My original set up was use Ice on him for extra actions, buff up Hulkenberg for the Synthesis Pierce attack and just heal as needed but the damage across the board is too damn high.

[otakon17]

JCKLNTRN a écrit :

He is weak to ice and the knight's weapon type. Don't bring mage or healer class as it will increase his damage, but do bring ice and multi-target healing magic through skill inheritance. Remember that the back row takes less damage. When he charges, hitting his weakness will interrupt/change his next move. The double-tech with knight and warrior which lowers enemy defense is very good. You shouldn't need to use more than a couple of revive items if you bear this all in mind, you are higher level than I was when I beat it.

I managed to finally beat it doing just that. But these are probably the best general tips so I think I'll close the topic here.

[SirVilance]

naked jack frost a écrit :

just use a paralyze item, retry until it hits and then the fight is free

doesnt work, for some reason i tried 50 times and he doesnt get stunned

[Volkamar]

I did this fight at Level 11/10/10 with Seeker/Warrior/Knight on Hard. Here's what I did.

Formation and Guarding is crucial for the first couple steps in the fight. Also don't hesitate to use your Items. Making use of stuff like Corrosive Acid, or even Stale Bread for the 300 Almighty Damage can help put this Minotaur down before he gets the better of you. SMT has a tradition of the earliest portion of the game being more difficult that the later stages, so using all your big items for fights like is not only a good idea, but it's borderline encourage as they'll likely be the best use you have for them for a long time. Formation should have all but your Knight on the Rear. I did try using stuff like Paralysis Items, but couldn't get them to stick, so best not worry about using those.

The first couple of Turns for the fight will see the Minotaur using various hard-hitting single target and AoE Attacks. Even when Guarding, they will take off at least half of your Health. If the damage is spread out properly, you can Heal up and carry on the fight. After a couple of Turns, he will start to use Charge. Hitting him with Weakness at this point will cause him to stumble, and will result in just a singular attack to weather through. From here, he will alternative between three turns. Random Attacks, followed by Charge, followed by Charge Follow-Up.

During your Turns, you should be Healing with Protag or Items. Tarukaja casting should be left to Strohl to help boost Hulkenburg's damage. Hulkenburg should use the Sync Pierce Attack for the maximum possible damage. Protag can inherit Ice to help get some free turns if your Squad is nicely healed. If you're careful with Guarding and are able to keep everyone topped up while Hulkenburg does her think, the beast will eventually topple. Might take a few tries, but stay the course, while some people in Discussion have been, frankly, very rude about how this fight isn't difficult, it definitely is if you're trying to beat it before the Cathedral. But take it from me, it is very much possible, albeit with some trial and error involved and some lack of attachment to seemingly strong items. XD

[Caradhas]

I mainly just used Hulkenberg's Jumping pierce special attack. That does major damage.

[Johnlenham]

I tried for like 2 hours changing all kinds of tactics at level 11 or so.
I gave up, came back at 14 and steam rolled him. Just dont take a mage but use the ice spell inherited and make the other guys knights or warriors with stab special.

[Masterom2000]

otakon17 a écrit :

Level 12 average party, Normal. He just keeps shredding my entire team with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hit all move, it does 100+ damage and he uses it unfailingly every turn. Back row does nothing, using Knights attract does nothing. I don't have a ton of Ice Chunks but I do have Ice unlocked for everyone. Currently trying it with Seeker/Warrior/Knight. My original set up was use Ice on him for extra actions, buff up Hulkenberg for the Synthesis Pierce attack and just heal as needed but the damage across the board is too damn high.

Man, I had this same post a few days ago, merely stating since I am much further in the game, for some reason this dungeon has a boss that is WAAAAY harder than the monsters in the dungeon, and all I got was trolls talking trash. So far, this is the only dungeon that has this problem, every other boss so far has been par for the course and in line with a dungeon's difficulty. At least the people here were nicer to you thankfully lol.

[otakon17]

Masterom2000 a écrit :

otakon17 a écrit :

Level 12 average party, Normal. He just keeps shredding my entire team with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hit all move, it does 100+ damage and he uses it unfailingly every turn. Back row does nothing, using Knights attract does nothing. I don't have a ton of Ice Chunks but I do have Ice unlocked for everyone. Currently trying it with Seeker/Warrior/Knight. My original set up was use Ice on him for extra actions, buff up Hulkenberg for the Synthesis Pierce attack and just heal as needed but the damage across the board is too damn high.

Man, I had this same post a few days ago, merely stating since I am much further in the game, for some reason this dungeon has a boss that is WAAAAY harder than the monsters in the dungeon, and all I got was trolls talking trash. So far, this is the only dungeon that has this problem, every other boss so far has been par for the course and in line with a dungeon's difficulty. At least the people here were nicer to you thankfully lol.

I got lucky I guess plus it was during the demo. Now that full release is out, the jerks are too. You managed to beat the bugger I hope?

[Tiasmoon]

Nothing to do with luck. Look at your title. You asked for help, and you got help.

[Seisachtheia]

Masterom2000 a écrit :

otakon17 a écrit :

Level 12 average party, Normal. He just keeps shredding my entire team with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hit all move, it does 100+ damage and he uses it unfailingly every turn. Back row does nothing, using Knights attract does nothing. I don't have a ton of Ice Chunks but I do have Ice unlocked for everyone. Currently trying it with Seeker/Warrior/Knight. My original set up was use Ice on him for extra actions, buff up Hulkenberg for the Synthesis Pierce attack and just heal as needed but the damage across the board is too damn high.

Man, I had this same post a few days ago, merely stating since I am much further in the game, for some reason this dungeon has a boss that is WAAAAY harder than the monsters in the dungeon, and all I got was trolls talking trash. So far, this is the only dungeon that has this problem, every other boss so far has been par for the course and in line with a dungeon's difficulty. At least the people here were nicer to you thankfully lol.

Glad to hear the rest of the game doesn't have this problem. I was level 13 and comfortably doing the dungeon only to get destroyed by the level 22 boss. I'd guess that this dungeon is the way it is to give people in the demo something to grind for before the game released, because you can't do it without grinding of some kind (either levels or Archetypes). I'll probably come back when I'm closer to the boss' level and it's actually feasible.

[alex010300]

Doesn't the info broker give out hints on how you can beat that Boss ?

[otakon17]

alex010300 a écrit :

Doesn't the info broker give out hints on how you can beat that Boss ?

Yeah, use Piercing and *magic*. I have LONG since beat this boss and am at the end of the game but at that point in the game the ONLY real Piercing damage you have is from Hulkenberg as a Knight.

[ShockedHearts]

on hard I brought a warrior and 2 mage, mage on purpose since it makes him skip a turn, if you can damage him enough in 2 turns you can finish him before he even attacks.

only ice spells and strongest warrior attack.

if you cant finish him off then move everyone into backrow and defend before his turn you *should* survive and finish in 3rd turn.

rather easy fight, the warning to not use mages is a lot slower, but if you abuse ice magic you can take it down really fast 2-3 turns max if you are appropriate level for the dungeon.

[otakon17]

ShockedHearts a écrit :

on hard I brought a warrior and 2 mage, mage on purpose since it makes him skip a turn, if you can damage him enough in 2 turns you can finish him before he even attacks.

only ice spells and strongest warrior attack.

if you cant finish him off then move everyone into backrow and defend before his turn you *should* survive and finish in 3rd turn.

rather easy fight, the warning to not use mages is a lot slower, but if you abuse ice magic you can take it down really fast 2-3 turns max if you are appropriate level for the dungeon.

At lower levels this is not really possible as he does half your health in damage with one attack that hits *everyone* and spams it twice. Even two Mages and a Knight hitting weakness is only six attacks.

[ShockedHearts]

otakon17 a écrit :

ShockedHearts a écrit :

on hard I brought a warrior and 2 mage, mage on purpose since it makes him skip a turn, if you can damage him enough in 2 turns you can finish him before he even attacks.

only ice spells and strongest warrior attack.

if you cant finish him off then move everyone into backrow and defend before his turn you *should* survive and finish in 3rd turn.

rather easy fight, the warning to not use mages is a lot slower, but if you abuse ice magic you can take it down really fast 2-3 turns max if you are appropriate level for the dungeon.

At lower levels this is not really possible as he does half your health in damage with one attack that hits *everyone* and spams it twice. Even two Mages and a Knight hitting weakness is only six attacks.

why would you fight him underlevelled?

at the average level for the area I defeated him in two turns with this strat.

and I mentioned he wastes his first turn enraged and charging due to mage, which means 12 attacks before he attacks.. not 6. only 6 if you ARENT using a mage/healer since he doesnt get enraged and charge.

[alex010300]

otakon17 a écrit :

alex010300 a écrit :

Doesn't the info broker give out hints on how you can beat that Boss ?

Yeah, use Piercing and *magic*. I have LONG since beat this boss and am at the end of the game but at that point in the game the ONLY real Piercing damage you have is from Hulkenberg as a Knight.

Or the Gunner and sniper class