Just tried iRacing what a joke

[chillgreg]

Graphics are crap, gamepad steering is hopeless, can't race on a course I want with a car i want, need to pay for tracks, very little guidance for noobs, interface from 1980. How do you expect this to compete with the Forza's of the world. At least I only wasted $9 on a 3 month trial. Hard to believe that after all these years iRacing has been running it's still such an antiquated mess. Probably the only people enjoying this are rich retirees with mega-setups and low expectations.

[Father Doug]

Автор сообщения: Robbo

Yay I win.

No, I feel like we could go a couple more days at this. :P

[cmdracer]

Автор сообщения: Smoket

itt - fanboys ♥♥♥♥♥ at eachother like little chevy vs ford kids... Iracing and Assetto Corsa are by far the top 2 driving sims for completely seperate reasons. Let me enlighten you on this...



Iracing has solid MMR which makes more competitive clean racing, more in depth ways to change your car setup (telemetry too), overall simulates the track day feel better (yellow flags, pit stops, sitting at the grid and rolling restarts, seasons), I don't mind paying $50 a year for iracing even if i play it rarely now, Because I know that money goes toward making the game better with dynamic track surfaces and racing lines.


Assetto Corsa has better graphics, huge modding community (Drifting oh yezz, You can make your favorite home track), simple drop in a server and race, street cars.. not every vehicle is a 700hp race car making racing more grass roots, no subscription.


So there you have it, it's like comparing apples to oranges. That being said I laughed at OP's post when he said gamepad. Now shut up and get out on the track, every second counts and you're SLOOW. :deadskull: Do you even apex? :deadskull:

Agree 100%. I just prefer iRacing over AC due to the online organization. That and I don't have enough time logged into AC to get a real feel for their sim. Just gotten used to iRacing I guess.

[R.C. Collins]

iracing isn't exactly a simulator either. It pretends but it doesn't even properly simulate weight transfer and chassis/body roll correctly. The transition from corner to corner, left to right to left to right is waaaaay off!

Combined with their somewhat non-existent tire model, that doesn't really model heat, wear, peak grip with transition to wear and less grip is why it's very difficult to catch a slide. The natural responses one would make while in a real car, the responses taught and learned at driving schools don't work well because the game is unrealistic.

You CANNOT take real world setup values, plug them into iracing and expect a result. The fact that setups have to be so fudged to get the car to work speaks volumes about the physics.

Only one simulator I know of where real values work but it has its own other issues.

If the real counterpart to the cars in iracing handled like they do in the game, drivers would be dying every weekend.

I've been in a real race car as a passenger with a very good driver and I've had the opportunity to run a real race car on a track and the first thing you realize is even when the car begins to get really pushed, just how much grip it has and how stable it is. Not this driving on ice, slow speed spin crap this game is infected with.

iracing has really brainwashed the unknowing masses with their 'i' mentality like apple. Because it's expensive, it must be good. The fanboy base is nauseating with the multi thousand dollar rigs with all kinds of multi-screen, button box, direct drive wheels, load cell this, that, and the other, with cockpits and all kinds of HUD displays and most people can't finish a race consistently. 5%-10% of the subscribers can drive... maybe. The rest are weapons. A typical race with a field of 20 is reduced to 1/2 by the end.

[Smoket]

Автор сообщения: R.C. Collins

iracing isn't exactly a simulator either. It pretends but it doesn't even properly simulate weight transfer and chassis/body roll correctly. The transition from corner to corner, left to right to left to right is waaaaay off!

Combined with their somewhat non-existent tire model, that doesn't really model heat, wear, peak grip with transition to wear and less grip is whey it's very difficult to catch a slide. The natural responses one would make while in a real car, the responses taught and learned at driving schools don't work well because the game is unrealistic.

You CANNOT take real world setup values, plug them into iracing and expect a result. The fact that setups have to be so fudged to get the car to work speaks volumes about the physics.

Only one simulator I know of where real values work but it has its own other issues.

If the real counterpart to the cars in iracing handled like they do in the game, drivers would be dying every weekend.

I've been in a real race car as a passenger with a very good driver and I've had the opportunity to run a real race car on a track and the first thing you realize is even when the car begins to get really pushed, just how much grip it has and how stable it is. Not this driving on ice, slow speed spin crap this game is infected with.

iracing has really brainwashed the unknowing masses with their 'i' mentality like apple. Because it's expensive, it must be good. The fanboy base is nauseating with the multi thousand dollar rigs with all kinds of multi-screen, button box, direct drive wheels, load cell this, that, and the other, with cockpits and all kinds of HUD displays and most people can't finish a race consistently. 5%-10% of the subscribers can drive... maybe. The rest are weapons. A typical race with a field of 20 is reduced to 1/2 by the end.

troll post, reported.

[Smoket]

Автор сообщения: R.C. Collins

I was referring to this comment;

***note***
AC, PCARS, GT, and Forza are not simulators (they are arcade or sim/cade)

I'm not defending AC, pCARS or any of the others however I also stated the reality.

My post is and was far from troll post.

I stated some facts. Too bad you, most of the other iracing shills and iracing themselves can't handle the reality of the inherent problems in the game. It's a 20yr old engine that is more and more unable to do what they claim or the marketing they're selling.

Quit being an a-s-s licker.

Автор сообщения: Smoket

troll post, reported.

My bad man, You're not a troll just retawded.

[Robbo]

Автор сообщения: R.C. Collins

So tell me why exactly I'm retarded?

Is it because the BIG, OOOH AHHH Dynamic Track (that GTR had in 2005, that rF2 has had since 2012 that actually works) is broken? They've quietly quit hyping it because it has at least twice fcuked up top level series. As well, the supposed marbles rarely, if ever, appear because that's broken too.

Or is it because there is an ongoing inherent issue whereby braking and turning in iracing seems to make the whole game engine choke and cause a slow speed spin? An issue that has been addressed by many for years whilst nothing has been done. Something that wouldn't happen in the real world.

Or is it because the gearboxes are hopelessly broken? NOT ONCE in ANY manual gearbox car have I ever 'Loaded' the gearbox as described and recommended by iracing support. A process whereby, you shift the gear lever to gear up, hold it there and wait until the car finally shifts. What a JOKE! Try that in your street car and tell me how long that works for you before you are picking up bits and pieces off the road while the wrecker is loading up your car to go to the shop.

Or is the fact that the 19 year old engine is still essentially using the 19 year old tire model from GPL and doesn't really simulate any aspect of a tire? It simulates heat. That's about it. With that heat comes on the edge slip and lack of realistic car control.

Or is it that the 19 year old engine is essentially 65% Nascar 2003 as was forced to be admitted in court? That the engine is long past its prime and many of the features that are failing, being bug ridden or breaking other functions are likely due to the fact that the game engine is not capable and or is being stressed or pushed beyond what it's capable of and in reality would need a re-write. That's okay, they're almost at their 10 year window of their original business plan so they just have to ride it out until they close up and walk away with all the $$.

Or is it because most people have never even ridden in a race car of any kind, let alone driven one and have never even come close to pushing a vehicle to a limit so are absolutely clueless and therefore have zero idea of what they deem to be 'realistic'?

Is it because your tongue is too far up someone's anus sucking bung to admit that you've been duped by the hype? You spent a wad of coin on this cool 'High Impact Frequency Device' only to find out you over paid for a hammer. Now you don't want to look stupid (there's that low IQ thing again) so, you defend it at all cost, against all logic or reason.

The game has a great multiplayer structure. It has a caustic, cancerous userbase. You cannot even ask basic questions, make observations or question anything about anything to do with the game on any forum related to it because there's ALWAYS a douche wad like you chiming in with something snarky. When that isn't happening, the staff are harassing people, censoring or banning people even by mere association. Special.

They NEVER address core issues but quick, get your fcuking wallet out and buy that renault next month so you can drive another hyped up, broken physics POS in a lagging, stuttering, broken game on tracks that are questionably laser scanned (Old Monza is in no state to even be laser scanned - http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/merc-monz-2012-3.jpg ). Nobody ever questions though. Everyone just gets fished in by the hype and regurgitates it like some gospel. Another sign of low intel.

When someone makes a comment, and another person responds with analytical, critical, researched and well documented and known information, it's called a discussion or debate. What you do by either having nothing intelligent to say or by name calling as your first line of response or defense is ACTUALLY TROLLING. It also immediately exposes your LOW IQ - I'll guess 'C' average 89. Try not being a pestilent little be-atch.

Grow some thumbs you sub-mammal life form.

Автор сообщения: Smoket

My bad man, You're not a troll just retawded.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

[HK-47]

Автор сообщения: Robbo

Автор сообщения: R.C. Collins

So tell me why exactly I'm retarded?

Is it because the BIG, OOOH AHHH Dynamic Track (that GTR had in 2005, that rF2 has had since 2012 that actually works) is broken? They've quietly quit hyping it because it has at least twice fcuked up top level series. As well, the supposed marbles rarely, if ever, appear because that's broken too.

Or is it because there is an ongoing inherent issue whereby braking and turning in iracing seems to make the whole game engine choke and cause a slow speed spin? An issue that has been addressed by many for years whilst nothing has been done. Something that wouldn't happen in the real world.

Or is it because the gearboxes are hopelessly broken? NOT ONCE in ANY manual gearbox car have I ever 'Loaded' the gearbox as described and recommended by iracing support. A process whereby, you shift the gear lever to gear up, hold it there and wait until the car finally shifts. What a JOKE! Try that in your street car and tell me how long that works for you before you are picking up bits and pieces off the road while the wrecker is loading up your car to go to the shop.

Or is the fact that the 19 year old engine is still essentially using the 19 year old tire model from GPL and doesn't really simulate any aspect of a tire? It simulates heat. That's about it. With that heat comes on the edge slip and lack of realistic car control.

Or is it that the 19 year old engine is essentially 65% Nascar 2003 as was forced to be admitted in court? That the engine is long past its prime and many of the features that are failing, being bug ridden or breaking other functions are likely due to the fact that the game engine is not capable and or is being stressed or pushed beyond what it's capable of and in reality would need a re-write. That's okay, they're almost at their 10 year window of their original business plan so they just have to ride it out until they close up and walk away with all the $$.

Or is it because most people have never even ridden in a race car of any kind, let alone driven one and have never even come close to pushing a vehicle to a limit so are absolutely clueless and therefore have zero idea of what they deem to be 'realistic'?

Is it because your tongue is too far up someone's anus sucking bung to admit that you've been duped by the hype? You spent a wad of coin on this cool 'High Impact Frequency Device' only to find out you over paid for a hammer. Now you don't want to look stupid (there's that low IQ thing again) so, you defend it at all cost, against all logic or reason.

The game has a great multiplayer structure. It has a caustic, cancerous userbase. You cannot even ask basic questions, make observations or question anything about anything to do with the game on any forum related to it because there's ALWAYS a douche wad like you chiming in with something snarky. When that isn't happening, the staff are harassing people, censoring or banning people even by mere association. Special.

They NEVER address core issues but quick, get your fcuking wallet out and buy that renault next month so you can drive another hyped up, broken physics POS in a lagging, stuttering, broken game on tracks that are questionably laser scanned (Old Monza is in no state to even be laser scanned - http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/merc-monz-2012-3.jpg ). Nobody ever questions though. Everyone just gets fished in by the hype and regurgitates it like some gospel. Another sign of low intel.

When someone makes a comment, and another person responds with analytical, critical, researched and well documented and known information, it's called a discussion or debate. What you do by either having nothing intelligent to say or by name calling as your first line of response or defense is ACTUALLY TROLLING. It also immediately exposes your LOW IQ - I'll guess 'C' average 89. Try not being a pestilent little be-atch.

Grow some thumbs you sub-mammal life form.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

You get'm DUDE!

[Kerb Searcher]

from the uk we dont use the word AWESOME very much but that is the best reply for [e-mail] ive seen since joining steam SPOT ON. i got a refund and cancellation of sub, instantly that and the fact i could not log in for 2 days..at least it gives you 2 days to go on forums for help, and you see them so you know to cancel as soon as you do, a PROPPER EYE OPENER..

[Smoket]

I laughed.

[Robbo]

hahahahahhaah you're great

[Jim]

I'm the scripted AI in a game where there are no NPCs lol

[Robbo]

Автор сообщения: R.C. Collins

You all aren't too bright. I can't imagine schlocking around an existence in this world with my brains dripping out a nostril like you Robbo. Your mother should have swallowed you.

And well Jim, who knows what kind of Meth brain damage you have since your comment doesn't really make sense.

Wow.. scary. No wonder everywhere you turn things are whack. Folks like you are in the way.

hahhahahaha please keep going

[HK-47]

Автор сообщения: R.C. Collins

You all aren't too bright. I can't imagine schlocking around an existence in this world with my brains dripping out a nostril like you Robbo. Your mother should have swallowed you.

And well Jim, who knows what kind of Meth brain damage you have since your comment doesn't really make sense.

Wow.. scary. No wonder everywhere you turn things are whack. Folks like you are in the way.

This guy should be a comic. Very funny stuff. Aparently being butthurt is good for comedy.

[Jim]

I've never seen a man so upset about a pretend car game lmao

[BuckTard]

This really isnt a game aimed at noobs. Theres a steep learning curve and your going to need to invest in a wheel pedals setup to get the best out of it. If you love the thrill ofr hard racing and seat of your pants driving its worth the time. If you play arcade with damage turned off you wont like this very much