iRacing
chillgreg 2014 年 6 月 19 日 上午 7:58
Just tried iRacing what a joke
Graphics are crap, gamepad steering is hopeless, can't race on a course I want with a car i want, need to pay for tracks, very little guidance for noobs, interface from 1980. How do you expect this to compete with the Forza's of the world. At least I only wasted $9 on a 3 month trial. Hard to believe that after all these years iRacing has been running it's still such an antiquated mess. Probably the only people enjoying this are rich retirees with mega-setups and low expectations.
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B✪✪tsy 2021 年 3 月 23 日 上午 3:01 
引用自 Stink
引用自 B✪✪tsy
I am just responding to the BS on the forum
Same here.

引用自 B✪✪tsy
coming from people that are disgruntled and want to spread a negative vibe in the hope that other people will also be negative about iRacing.

You're only allowed to be positive about iRacing. To the point that iRacing staff enforces that positivity on their forums. I mean if's what you only want to hear then you're just as welcome to get off of here and go to iRacings Forums where everyone will tell you how great it is and they make sure it's only positive vibes.
But again since this is the only place that I can be negative about it. Where iRacing has no control over what can be moderated, then this is where you will find me.

引用自 B✪✪tsy
If you rather play an other sim than iRacing then thats fine, go do that and be active on that forum and tell everyone how amazing it is on that forum.
Why go tell people it's good, when chances are they already know it's good?
You keep missing the point. If you don't like iRacing then just move on. Everyone can have their say and even be negative if you are constructive about it, but when it goes on and on you (and others) are creating a toxic vibe on the forum and are damaging the game. It's simply egotistic, it's the attitude of 'I don't like iRacing and therefor nobody should like it'.

And PS, the Steam forum is also moderated and toxicity is against the community guidelines.
Stink 2021 年 3 月 23 日 上午 3:57 
引用自 Fivecorr
I dont see the problem with pointing out that the FFB is weak and gives you no or kinda false feedback if you are coming from other sim's.
I dont care about it since i got used to it, but knowing how a DD and AC feels, it makes you wonder why iracing's FFB is the way it is.

Yep that's how I feel. Before I just accepted it and learnt to drive a certain way, but with how many sims I jump in and out of and drive without thinking about it. It becomes frustrating doing things that seem natural in other sims, that just don't work at all in iRacing. It becomes stupid to think that 7 other sims got it wrong, but iRacing got it right.

引用自 Fivecorr
That is not true. Other sim's dont even know what a Oval is or a how a stock car is setup. And dont get me started on Indycars in other sim's. Yeah yeah, european drivers dont care about anything that isn't Monza/Spa or a GT3.

That seems to be something as simple as reading up on something, or getting help from someone that knows how to set them up and changing a few numbers around. Unless you mean how they model things ect is all wrong.

I meant about the stuff that iRacing has coded.
Like Day and Night cycles, although they're in iRacing, its not done well. From what I remember at a certain time at night the game just swaps to day, and certain time during the day it swaps to night instead of it being a 24 hour cycle that goes through all phases.

引用自 Fivecorr
There are still a few things iracing does well and better compared to other sim's. But the FFB isn't one of those things.
100%

引用自 Fivecorr
Yh, they are limiting themself. They first have to fix the mess they created and then update everything within their own set limits thanks to the code.

I'd rather have no new content and atleast an idea that they're doing something about fixing things.
Instead we no idea, and content being made left and right. Like the old nascars are cool and all but as for people buying it and using it regularly, correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't looked but I think even in peak times that's probably a small field of drivers.

引用自 Fivecorr
By now we should be able to have 15 diffrent cars and 100 car grids.
HAHA please no, the lap 1 wrecks would be awesome with 100 cars piling into it. Even though yes we should, lets never do it.
Stink 2021 年 3 月 23 日 上午 5:10 
引用自 B✪✪tsy
You keep missing the point.
Here we go again

引用自 B✪✪tsy
Everyone can have their say and even be negative if you are constructive about it.
Well apparently not although I have said negative things about iRacing they were usually balanced out with positive things. Instead of allowing negative things to be said and not worry about it, you decided you need to defend the game.

Which is something you chose to do. You might disagree with what has been said but, you could have just as easily not said anything and left it at the 1 or 2 negative things being said instead of attempting to debunk all of mine and others claims.

引用自 B✪✪tsy
but when it goes on and on you (and others) are creating a toxic vibe on the forum and are damaging the game.

Again, no one asked you to stay and debunk anything. You chose to do that.
I could just leave and let you say my claims or views aren't true, but that's no fun.

And now it's to the point where you're tired of it and it's going to be easier to label me and others as "toxic" which in my opinion that's good. In future, do it more often and you will save yourself and others alot more time. Just throw us all in the toxic bin and don't say anthing.

引用自 B✪✪tsy
It's simply egotistic, it's the attitude of 'I don't like iRacing and therefor nobody should like it'.

That's not true but if you really look at it that way, then I can look at it as egotistical that you're still here defending it because 'You like iRacing and therefore everyone should like it'.

引用自 B✪✪tsy
And PS, the Steam forum is also moderated and toxicity is against the community guidelines.

HAHAHA. I and others have been anything but toxic.
Apart from you, everyone else has been really good imo. But I mean you're more than welcome to try and push that angle. lmfao
最后由 Stink 编辑于; 2021 年 3 月 23 日 上午 5:25
TeknoBug 2021 年 3 月 23 日 上午 6:20 
引用自 Stink
You're only allowed to be positive about iRacing. To the point that iRacing staff enforces that positivity on their forums. I mean if's what you only want to hear then you're just as welcome to get off of here and go to iRacings Forums where everyone will tell you how great it is and they make sure it's only positive vibes.
But again since this is the only place that I can be negative about it. Where iRacing has no control over what can be moderated, then this is where you will find me.
This is entirely not true, problems has been brought up on the forums and staff members has responded, if you actually read the iR forums you'd know. The new tire model a year ago when it was added to the Skip Barber was problematic and it's been brought up and devs has acknowledged it and fixed it, such and such. They aren't like EA, Perfect World International or Treyarch where they just straight up delete negative stuff.
TeknoBug 2021 年 3 月 23 日 上午 6:25 
引用自 Fivecorr
Yh, they are limiting themself. They first have to fix the mess they created and then update everything within their own set limits thanks to the code.
10 diffrent cars are already enough to kill most PCs, due to the fact that iracing can't use the CPU correctly. By now we should be able to have 15 diffrent cars and 100 car grids.
It's based on the NR2003 engine, they can't do a lot about the limitations unless they move to a new engine which means making a whole new game. iRacing was in the red (negative profit) from 2008 to 2016, they finally started turning a profit so they were running the game off their own equity for that long. Learn to appreciate such a game that has created arguably the best online racing that many other racing game companies has tried to get right or even match.

They recently upped the car limit to 7 per series, they're slowly but surely extending the capacity but it can only go so far. Same for ACC and their choice on the UE4 engine which also has its limitations, Aris will tell you that when you ask him.
Stink 2021 年 3 月 23 日 上午 7:18 
引用自 TeknoBug
This is entirely not true, problems has been brought up on the forums and staff members has responded, if you actually read the iR forums you'd know. The new tire model a year ago when it was added to the Skip Barber was problematic and it's been brought up and devs has acknowledged it and fixed it, such and such.
Yep this much is true.

引用自 TeknoBug
They aren't like EA, Perfect World International or Treyarch where they just straight up delete negative stuff.
This is not true and is exactly what they did with the irl driver video I posted earlier.
https://amp.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/gesxlo/simand_real_life_racing_content_creator_austin/

I seen long winded and well worded posts and responses about why people aren't happy with iRacing that just get edited into "."

So I'm pretty sure they are like that.


Fivecorr 2021 年 3 月 23 日 下午 12:39 
引用自 TeknoBug
引用自 Fivecorr
Yh, they are limiting themself. They first have to fix the mess they created and then update everything within their own set limits thanks to the code.
10 diffrent cars are already enough to kill most PCs, due to the fact that iracing can't use the CPU correctly. By now we should be able to have 15 diffrent cars and 100 car grids.
It's based on the NR2003 engine, they can't do a lot about the limitations unless they move to a new engine which means making a whole new game. iRacing was in the red (negative profit) from 2008 to 2016, they finally started turning a profit so they were running the game off their own equity for that long. Learn to appreciate such a game that has created arguably the best online racing that many other racing game companies has tried to get right or even match.

I know that. I have been a member for a few years by now and will be one for the next few as well. And thats why i say they should create the game from the ground up again as long as they can. Its already a lot of work, by now, they maybe already missed that point. But that will not change over the next years. So stop wasting time with dirt road or fantasy cars which is nice to have, but no one really wanted. A new GT3 is nice, but a updated gameengine would be better.
I know that it is a lot of work, but again that will only change into more work over the next few years.
I love iracing, the way the online racing works, the Website, the ingame UI, the way you can track nearly everything... Its so simple yet has some depth. I will keep racing and appreciate iracing, even if they stop bringing new content or features. I have enough cars and tracks i like to keep me bussy. But that doesn't mean i have to be positiv about everything they do or can't critize. Or point out that it isn't that smart in the longrun to keep using the NR03 engine.

引用自 TeknoBug
They recently upped the car limit to 7 per series, they're slowly but surely extending the capacity but it can only go so far.

"Recently", only if you talk in iracing time #soon. Its been what, 1 year?
And if you load a AI-Session you see what will happen if you load 10 diffrent cars. A Ryzen and RTX aren't enough for a few GT3s, GT4s, a Pcup and a TCR.

If you think "devs has acknowledged it and fixed it", try to spectate a PES or NPS race, or talk to people who know about the behind the scenes stuff. Its crazy is all i can say.
最后由 Fivecorr 编辑于; 2021 年 3 月 23 日 下午 12:40
Fivecorr 2021 年 3 月 23 日 下午 12:51 
引用自 Stink
引用自 Fivecorr
That is not true. Other sim's dont even know what a Oval is or a how a stock car is setup. And dont get me started on Indycars in other sim's. Yeah yeah, european drivers dont care about anything that isn't Monza/Spa or a GT3.

That seems to be something as simple as reading up on something, or getting help from someone that knows how to set them up and changing a few numbers around. Unless you mean how they model things ect is all wrong.

If its that easy, then why do def's dont know how a napcar should behave? I was talking about how they model such things and what kind of setups work, even though they are complete nonsense. Most games just model them wrong or outright ignore stuff like a WJ on an Indycar.

引用自 Stink
I meant about the stuff that iRacing has coded.
Like Day and Night cycles, although they're in iRacing, its not done well. From what I remember at a certain time at night the game just swaps to day, and certain time during the day it swaps to night instead of it being a 24 hour cycle that goes through all phases.

I never experienced that kind of stuff. I only remember the Sky Slideshow effect in VR.
And team racing is stuff ir coded ;)


引用自 Stink
引用自 Fivecorr
By now we should be able to have 15 diffrent cars and 100 car grids.
HAHA please no, the lap 1 wrecks would be awesome with 100 cars piling into it. Even though yes we should, lets never do it.

The only Series that would use such a car count would be the NLS (VLN for all the boomers) as well as the N24h, but its something that should be possible. Just give us a 120 car VLN grid. But oh no, user xy wants to play on his Windows ME, while my CPU can't use half of its cores.
Stink 2021 年 3 月 23 日 下午 7:55 
引用自 Fivecorr
If its that easy, then why do def's dont know how a napcar should behave? I was talking about how they model such things and what kind of setups work, even though they are complete nonsense. Most games just model them wrong or outright ignore stuff like a WJ on an Indycar.

Oval racing in other sims would be considered a niche imo, and since iRacing is a US based, heavily oval orientated sim. It's kind of expected that out of anyone, they should get it right.

Other sims are usually based outside the US, where nascar has very little to do with the racing scene. They also don't have big online oval communities and races like iRacing has, so making sure all the details are correct, probably isn't as big of a priority for them. Since they're only pleasing a few people and they will end up racing against AI or maybe some leagues, it's probably not worth the hassle.

I don't race indy but If I did do indycar one day and it didn't have a WJ, I probably wouldn't even notice. I think that is how 90% of the other sim racers are on oval. On these other sims oval is a niche, to them they probably don't know it exists, so for the majority of their players the devs can get away with it not being there.


引用自 Fivecorr
The only Series that would use such a car count would be the NLS (VLN for all the boomers) as well as the N24h, but its something that should be possible. Just give us a 120 car VLN grid. But oh no, user xy wants to play on his Windows ME, while my CPU can't use half of its cores.

If what is holding them back is a large enough amount of their users being on old hardware, then that is unfortunate. Hopefully, with the amount of new players coming in, they can offset that financial loss if they do decide to shift away from limiting the game in order to allow people to play on older hardware.
最后由 Stink 编辑于; 2021 年 3 月 23 日 下午 7:58
PegAsi 2021 年 3 月 24 日 上午 5:43 
The truth of the matter for iracing is other games do things better but the iracing playercount and online server is "Too Stronk" to ignore.

Example, ACC is the best gt3 and gt4 sim, but isn't the main sim for alot of gt3&4 drivers due to the online being REALLY poor and no system close to iracing.

If a good game came out and had the iracing online system in place. People would jump ship, for now iracing is still king, and will be until that time comes.(if it ever does)
最后由 PegAsi 编辑于; 2021 年 3 月 24 日 上午 5:51
wjy020122 2021 年 3 月 24 日 上午 6:41 
Where can I find the CD key if I bought it from steam?
bozont_svk 2021 年 3 月 25 日 上午 7:17 
its not a game for masses so not everyone will like it. its like dcs of racing :P
I've Told Every Little Star 2021 年 3 月 25 日 下午 12:52 
It's the type of game that only appeals to very hardcore sim players.
i4Gott 2021 年 3 月 25 日 下午 4:11 
引用自 Oops!daisy
It's the type of game that only appeals to very hardcore sim players.

Fallacy
I've Told Every Little Star 2021 年 3 月 25 日 下午 6:35 
引用自 Midfield Contender
引用自 Oops!daisy
It's the type of game that only appeals to very hardcore sim players.

Fallacy
Yeah and?
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