Do yourself a favor and look elsewhere

[On1yFansCEO]

For the same price you can get an incredibly more realistic simulation experience elsewhere.

They are very coy about this whole process, as a 5+ year member I can tell you that the state of development is stale at best, you have to pay $10+ per car and track and you are only getting a small piece of the pie by buying it here on Steam.

You do not own the content, so if they go belly up guess what your're left with.

Alot of series are all but dead, there is no career mode or AI to race against.

Try Assetto Corsa out for size, the whole package is there for one price and no monthly fee.

[8vvduecevv8]

Most sites and services are rented these days.

It has the best career mode of them all. AI, who needs it? Even hot lapping in practice with others is more fun than racing AI in other sims.

Some series are dead, many are thriving and 100x more participation than AC or anything else. All series are effectively dead on AC.

You can't properly race people on AC as there is no license or safety system.

It is far and above the most realistic racing experience. Cars, tracks and racing structure.

There is no chance they will go belly up in the next 5 years at least.

Jeez there is always that 1 person who hates something.

[On1yFansCEO]

"cant race AC with no license or safety system"

Guess you never watched a DWC race become a 43 car junk pile?

[8vvduecevv8]

Sure have, but it's more of a rare occurance. It's not the norm unlike other sims such as AC, rFactor etc where you can't trust anyone around you.

[_jay]

In the last couple years we've seen some of the best updates to iRacing. Driver swaps, GT3 series cars, NTM (New Tyre Model), and easily the best implementation and representation of Mt Panorama in simracing.

The Skip barber and GT3 series I normally drive are busier than ever. And what you mean by 'career mode' has been completely confused.

The same thing about owning content can be said about MMOs. The characters with thousands of hours spent working on them, the expansions, etc. All completely worthless if the servers disappear one day and you can't access them without subscribing. Yet millions of people still play them.

The cost is moot because if you're comparing iRacing against games then you're probably not right for simracing. If you're comparing iRacing against driving a real car around a track then the cost is so insignificant.

As I've posted elsewhere, a lot of sims use a black box methodology for modeling cars. Throw some variables on an object to represent it's power/weight/etc, give it a model for looks and you have yourself a new car. iRacing does not do this. They model everything uniquely for each car.

[K Steinwand]

Originally posted by _jay:

The cost is moot because if you're comparing iRacing against games then you're probably not right for simracing. If you're comparing iRacing against driving a real car around a track then the cost is so insignificant.

Actually, some one did a really awesome comparison when it comes to games. The cost of 1 series on iRacing for a full year of participation vs Forza and it's DLC.

[Festus_Hagen]

Originally posted by DewCrew88:

as a 5+ year member I can tell you that the state of development is stale at best,

You are an idiot then.

[Enzo]

Dew, I think you are just highlighting the difference between other sims to iracing quite well. No ai is a bonus. If you want to race against ai. then iracing is probably not for you.

You are right regarding development, sometimes it is stale. But I tell you this. it is constant. like any other mmo. its being upgraded all the time. No other racing sim has this as far as I am aware ;)

I also dont see the owner going belly up anytime soon. but ofcourse anything can happen right.

may I ask, your original post obviously indicates you dont like iracing. which ofcourse is fine. but why were you with the service for 5+ years if this was the case? surely you would of known you didnt like it within 1 year. 6 months even?

Would you mind if I looked at your stats in iracing? I am interested to see what series you ran etc :)

[HariSeldon]

I thoroughly encourage people to look elsewhere, as well as at iRacing. There's a tonne of good stuff out there in the sim-racing world and for instance if league racing is your thing then RF2 and Assetto Corsa are pretty good (RF2 esp for endurance). On the other hand if you want decent pick-up racing with most of the field finishing and not too much wrecking, iRacing is pretty much the only game in town.

[Festus_Hagen]

Originally posted by Enzo:

may I ask, your original post obviously indicates you dont like iracing. which ofcourse is fine. but why were you with the service for 5+ years if this was the case? surely you would of known you didnt like it within 1 year. 6 months even?

That was my whole point.

He comes in here saying how bad it is, but has been a member for 5 years. That is sheer stupidity or a lie. One or the other.

[On1yFansCEO]

Originally posted by Festus_Hagen:

Originally posted by DewCrew88:

as a 5+ year member I can tell you that the state of development is stale at best,

You are an idiot then.

Tell me how the game in 5 years it still fails to be as good as assetto corsa?

[On1yFansCEO]

Originally posted by Festus_Hagen:

Originally posted by Enzo:

may I ask, your original post obviously indicates you dont like iracing. which ofcourse is fine. but why were you with the service for 5+ years if this was the case? surely you would of known you didnt like it within 1 year. 6 months even?

That was my whole point.

He comes in here saying how bad it is, but has been a member for 5 years. That is sheer stupidity or a lie. One or the other.

It was a lot better in 2009-10 when it was on the old tire model. Wear and preserving tires actually was meaningful to the outcome of the race. There was cleaner racing and longer races availible instead of hourly fixed race wreckfests.

[8vvduecevv8]

Originally posted by DewCrew88:

Originally posted by Festus_Hagen:

That was my whole point.

He comes in here saying how bad it is, but has been a member for 5 years. That is sheer stupidity or a lie. One or the other.

It was a lot better in 2009-10 when it was on the old tire model. Wear and preserving tires actually was meaningful to the outcome of the race. There was cleaner racing and longer races availible instead of hourly fixed race wreckfests.

Ah ha, now your post is making sense to me.

It sounds like you are still in rookies or doing rookies after 5 years. Wow, no wonder you hate iRacing so much then. You say wreakfest, i.e "Some of the rookie series races, but not all", but you are promoting AC which is an almost gauranteed wreakfest no matter what car or track you drive because no-one is responsible for their racing actions on AC.

Unlike iRacing where the community will frown upon and condone aggressive racecraft from repeat offenders espeicially if you mostly race against the same drivers week to week.

I recommend DewCrew, that you find a leauge of similar skilled drivers if you struggle to get out of low splits after 5 years.

AC is good fun for some hot lapping, and you will find 90% of iRacers already own Asseto Corsa. If AC was so great, wouldn't all of us have shifted to AC??? AC is fine for a quick hotlap bash every other week, but iRacing is where people spend 90% to 100% of their time.

Regarding Tyre models. I'm getting up to 2 seconds a lap degradation which is factored into my race strategys vs fuel and pitstop strategies. And it's only getting better. Next is flat spotting and dynamic surfaces with rubber buildup etc.

[On1yFansCEO]

good try, hovered around 4000 iR on the oval side and held a Pro license at one point

[8vvduecevv8]

Nice you made pro and 4000 iRating is quite good for oval from my understanding. I still can't see what appeal AC has for anyone who has raced in cometitive series on iRacing.

Your 5 year story doesn't make sense. If true then I feel you are the exception rather than the norm to your racing peers, but you are surely entitled to your opinion.

The road side is great. I guess I know less about oval side.

[Robbo]

AC is boring as ♥♥♥♥. Would be nice if it was good and had something to do other than drive in circles against yourself. I want a racing game not a hotlapping game. It may have improved since I last tried it but nothing beats real racing which only iracing provides in an accessible way.