iRacing

iRacing

Why this when LFS is free?
I see no reason to spend money every month on this game ( or any other, subsription based games are for wow tools ) when you can download Live for speed for free and play that. It has great driving ( still the best sim racing game ) and you can play it against people or bots.

Case closed.
Last edited by 76561198110643810; Mar 16, 2015 @ 9:52am
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Max Headroom Mar 16, 2015 @ 10:10am 
Because LFS is 12 years old, unsupported, has no real tracks and 2 real cars
Funnybear Mar 16, 2015 @ 10:11am 
To OP.

Seconded. Although I am dabbling in Assetto Corsa, but getting really hacked off with the online play.

LFS is still the best for pure racing fans. It may not have the cars but it sure makes up for it in pure playability. And with the new update out . . . . . soon, then the population might climb a bit for a while.

And Myles, LFS is still being supported. Has always been supported and will be supported for quite a while yet.
Last edited by Funnybear; Mar 16, 2015 @ 10:12am
Max Headroom Mar 16, 2015 @ 10:15am 
Not to an acceptable degree, still waiting on Rockingham and the Scirocco
Kilgry Mar 16, 2015 @ 10:18am 
When you are ready for some real racing, iRacing will be waiting for you.
Funnybear Mar 16, 2015 @ 10:19am 
Meh, Rockingham won't be coming. I suspect licencing issues, but who knows. We would of had it by now if it was going to be released. And as for the Scirocco, they can keep it. Crap car in real life, why on earth would I want to drive the thing in a game. LFS uses 'real' car platforms instead of 'real' cars. Just use your imagination. They set up the same way, they race the same way, they crash the same way. I'd rather the physics was spot on than any cosmetic pandering to the shiney shiney generation.
Max Headroom Mar 16, 2015 @ 10:41am 
Yea I can agree on that but I would recommend rFactor 1 or Stock Car instead
8vvduecevv8 Mar 16, 2015 @ 11:36am 
lol, LFS is a kids toy compared to iRacing.
Fokkas Mar 16, 2015 @ 2:31pm 
Meh, all of these "pro extreme sim racing" fanboys will always say the same exact thing. It doesn't matter if it's Project Cars, rFactor, iRacing, Assetto - they're all the same.

To the OP, the thing I suggest is just to play what you think you'll have the highest level of option and/or fun. Make sure to watch unbiased gameplay reviews of the games and avoid the topics because no matter what - these people will do anything to defend what they think is permanently right.

The only people who don't seem to whine and ♥♥♥♥♥ and get so firm on their ideas seem to be the people who play racing games for the enjoyment - and for this, just like in pCARS it seems that the only focus is simulation. There is very little "game" to PC racing games simply because they're nothing but "simulation" games. I'm personally completely tired of this trend. I want to be able to play a single player racing game with developers who have the actual ability and skills to code an AI to race with and I want them to actually care about the customers and try to acquire more than 6 car manufacturing licenses because all of these game developers only care about Ford, McLaren, Chevrolet, BMW, and some open wheel cars here and there. That's all and it's frankly a slap to the face to anyone who wants to just sit down and enjoy a car racing game.

But be careful, more than not people will then tell you to go play a console racing game and spend 400 dollars on the console and the game while claiming you to be a "child" or a "kid" or a "humiliating piece of ♥♥♥♥" because you don't want to play a game on their standard. Because you want to enjoy a game where you race a car and just have fun regardless what kind of car it is.


On a side note... having a Ford or McLaren license is nothing fancy... I can get to popsickle sticks on my kitchen table and write with a pen on the sticks "Ford" and "McLaren" and record it and throw it on youtube and Ford and McLaren will instantly throw a thousand dollars my way. They are the most wishwashing sellouts in the sim racing genre to date.
Steve Mar 16, 2015 @ 5:43pm 
This post is not to create an argument, it's just information about why iRacing is a bargain for some and poor value for others, it doesn't matter what camp you fall into but this post might help the reader work out where they fit if they are undecided. First off there is no right or wrong or better or worse in this debate, it is much like arguing over which is better between an Oculus Rift and monitors, the answer depends on the individual and what that person is hoping to get out of it.

If you can only see iRacing as another racing game you are right in not paying a sub for it, I would go as far as saying you might be wasting your money if you do. iRacing is not for those who are looking for another car game, iRacing is for those who want to simulate racing and those who would love to race competitively in the real world but are unable to for whatever reason. What iRacing excels at is organised competition which most people wouldn't get much out of unless they were dedicated and serious about sim racing. iRacing is best if treated like any other competitive sport. For anyone who is looking for the best racing sim to race against real people nothing come close to iRacing but that is a niche market and many will struggle to see the value in iRacing.

I will however give you some more reasons iRacing is great.

iRacing's tracks are brilliant and the recent addition of Monza with the high speed oval is a special treat for sim racers. For anyone like me who would dream about being able to go to Monza and race on the oval that alone is worth the sub in my opinion and the fact that iRacing have scanned the track and rebuilt the combined track not as it was historically but as if the track owner today did it by combining the modern version is a dream come true.

The Physics are currently very good and they are my favourite physics in any racing sim. FFB is still better in Assetto Corsa but at the moment for me iRacing sets the benchmark in simulation. Combine this with the incredible tracks and driving on iRacing is a sim racing treat.

The graphics and sounds are great despite the fact that we are still waiting on the DX11 update. I would go as far as saying I find iRacing graphics more immersive and realistic than even Assetto Corsa, AC does some things better and overall is prettier but iRacing looks more realistic especially at speed IMO.

iRacing has the best partnerships which promise a strong future. iRacing has the official Blancpain GT series, the official V8SC series, the official Nascar series with incredible prizes for the best of the best including $10,000 for the winner and the winner of the Pro GP road series also takes home 10k. These are just a few of the notable partnerships iRacing has.

iRacing has a major update every 13 weeks and because of this in the last half year it has gone from having some serious flaws and trailing the competition to once again showing the others how it's done in many areas. The difference in iRacing being a sub model is it is constantly evolving and improving, graphics will improve "soon", the physics and tyre model just had a great update and the work there will continue and they are constantly working on making the sim better with each update. Not every update has been 100% positive and the competition forced them to really pick up their game but the improvement from when I joined until now is impressive and I think the sub model works for this kind of service.

You might be of the opinion that I'm an iRacing fanboi from reading this but the fact is that I'm a critic of iRacing when it comes to not living up to some of it's claims with organised racing and driving standards but I can't ignore the fact that there still is no competition for iRacing in this area.

As far as $'s go yes as a game iRacing is expensive but I do not look at iRacing as a game so for me iRacing is a bargain. If you buy a yearly sub it is $49 but I take advantage of black friday credits so it costs me $75 for 2 years. There are ways to get it cheaper still but that is already cheaper than one tank of fuel so I really don't care. For $75/2years I am a member of iRacing which makes the best organised racing available to me against real people on some of the best tracks in some of the best cars. I also have access to the best online sim racing community forums and the best leagues. Compare that to the following things I have paid for and it is a bargain.

2 year sub to iRacing with BF discount credits = $75
One tank of fuel for my car IRL = $80-$100 depending on day and location.
Car Insurance = $65/month
Soccer club membership = $300/year plus boots & gaurds and fuel to get to training and games.
BMX club membership = over $140/year + weekly gate fees and racing fees + bikes + safety gear + travel + major event entry fees.
Music festival tickets (soundwave) = $200 + accomodation + travel + food
Concert Tickets (Machine Head) = $76 + accomodation + travel + food

Other things that also cost more than iRacing include decent sim wheel and pedals, gaming PC, display, sim rig frame, racing seat.

And I'd argue that I know a number of people who enjoy playing games on either console or PC who spend a lot more than an iRacing sub even on just one franchise with constant new releases.

Obviously to me iRacing is good value and I'd go even further and say that I'd be willing to pay more if iRacing got serious about driving standards. For your typical gamer who might enjoy racing games there may be better options.
Last edited by Steve; Mar 16, 2015 @ 7:08pm
Whargod Mar 16, 2015 @ 5:47pm 
What sets iRacing apart is the service part of the game. This is very organized with a lot of checks and balances to make sure the multiplayer aspect is both fair and realistic. I personally cannot think of another car racing game liek it at all, nothing as organized or with the ability to match player skills during race time.

Games like AC are really great and I have fun with them but the MP is almost always atrocious. There is nothing stopping anyone from ruining the game whereas iRacing clamps down on that pretty well. I have had people banned for short periods of time for their behavior and that goes against thair paid subscrption which is a good lesson for them I hope.

Anyhow, it comes down to the ecosystem. iRacing has a ot of organized events which you won't find anywhere else. As always the choice of play style is up to you. If you like this stuff, give it a try. If you like a more arcade style, then just give it a pass.
XShortestStrawX Mar 16, 2015 @ 5:53pm 
Originally posted by Scopsion:
I see no reason to spend money every month on this game ( or any other, subsription based games are for wow tools ) when you can download Live for speed for free and play that. It has great driving ( still the best sim racing game ) and you can play it against people or bots.

Case closed.

Because LFS is outdated garbage with absolutely no community.

Case closed.
MancSoulja Mar 17, 2015 @ 2:35am 
Originally posted by XShortestStrawX:
Originally posted by Scopsion:
I see no reason to spend money every month on this game ( or any other, subsription based games are for wow tools ) when you can download Live for speed for free and play that. It has great driving ( still the best sim racing game ) and you can play it against people or bots.

Case closed.

Because LFS is outdated garbage with absolutely no community.

Case closed.

Have you seen the graphics on iRacing? I've seen more authentic PS2 games :tgrin:

Willem Mar 17, 2015 @ 3:38am 
Lol LFS is garbage compared to iRacing
XShortestStrawX Mar 17, 2015 @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by MancSoulja:
Originally posted by XShortestStrawX:

Because LFS is outdated garbage with absolutely no community.

Case closed.

Have you seen the graphics on iRacing? I've seen more authentic PS2 games :tgrin:

No, you haven't.
LithiumFox Mar 18, 2015 @ 4:22pm 
I own LFS. As well as pCars, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, etc.

I enjoy all the games, and will dabble a bit in ALL of them, but iRacing is the only one that comes close to offering a great, consistant racing experience. Sure, you sometimes have bad races. That happens in real life. But for the most part, it's a great online racing experience. (Where LFS seems to be 90% Drift/Regular Driving servers.)
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