TO DEVS- Why not Linux support?

[LiNuX-leillo]

Dear devs
Some years ago your game had linux support (thanks to wine). Then you moved to 64 bits and the linux users lost this support, because in that moment wine don't had a good 64bit support. The things has changed a lot, and in this moment wine has a great support, even with DX11 thanks to DXVK. Valve used this to make a fork called Proton that works also great.
If you don't want to make a pure native version of your awesome game, Why not a version that uses Wine+DXVK or Proton?

[Langowski]

Wasn't worth the effort to support a Linux when there where less then 200 active accounts using Linux.

[LiNuX-leillo]

How many years ago was that? It's true that we're not many, but not as few as we were years ago when iRacing had support. It's been a long time, and Valve's drive to facilitate the games in our system has been great. I'm just saying that it's like a snake biting its own tail. If you don't give support you don't have players, and vice versa.

[Wolki LuciPurr]

Even only 2 years ago the current state of linux gaming was unthinkable. Back then getting stuff like Witcher 3 to run without glitches and in a playable framerate was a dream. Not it runs perfectly, even newer AAA games like Sekiro. Right now one of the last problems on linux is anti cheat software. If that is solved it is probably safe to say that 95+% of Windows games are playable on Linux

[LiNuX-leillo]

Originally posted by Wolke|あなたの人生を愛:

Even only 2 years ago the current state of linux gaming was unthinkable. Back then getting stuff like Witcher 3 to run without glitches and in a playable framerate was a dream. Not it runs perfectly, even newer AAA games like Sekiro. Right now one of the last problems on linux is anti cheat software. If that is solved it is probably safe to say that 95+% of Windows games are playable on Linux

I don't know what anticheat software uses iRacing, but Valve are in conversations with Battleeye to support Proton

[Langowski]

Originally posted by LnXleillo1975:

How many years ago was that? It's true that we're not many, but not as few as we were years ago when iRacing had support. It's been a long time, and Valve's drive to facilitate the games in our system has been great. I'm just saying that it's like a snake biting its own tail. If you don't give support you don't have players, and vice versa.

It will never happen. They are on record that steam was less then helpful we will say about the steam integration into iRacing. So Valve helping them with Linux support is very unlikely. And unless you see Linux become uber user friendly for your average iracing user Linux users will always be a very small minority among them. I have been on iracing over 5 years and there are a go amount of computer literate people on there put most of them have no clue outside of doing maybe a driver install.

[LithiumFox]

EasyAntiCheat doesn't support Linux and at the time their wrapper didn't either. Same reason games like Rust no longer support it.

Simple as that.

[LiNuX-leillo]

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/easy-anti-cheat-is-actually-still-supported-for-linux-a-statement-from-epic-games.14077

[drmaemo]

Yeah - enable iRacing to run in Linux because I will buy it and participate, as well as (a) LinuxOS is not going away, (b) number of devices that do/can run LinuxOS is increasing, (c) number of GNU/LinuxOS users is in the millions and increasing every day, and (d) I am not unique and there are many people like me.

[LithiumFox]

Originally posted by LnXleillo1975:

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/easy-anti-cheat-is-actually-still-supported-for-linux-a-statement-from-epic-games.14077

They also notified me they put a Twitter post out in public to also confirm this. Additionally, they also mentioned in a reply to someone on Twitter that work seems to be in progress to support EAC in Wine, which means Steam Play support should hopefully come eventually.

So i'm still trying to figure out where I was wrong in what I said.... Because right now EAC is not running on Linux (with Wine). Epic Games is still working to "support" linux with EAC, but EAC itself does not support Linux as a platform that it currently runs on. However, I was wrong about rust.

But since iRacing would make use of Wine, which currently EAC is not working with.... My statement still stands as correct with mild variation.


[Also your individual sale does not matter, nor does the hypothetical sale to users on a platform that ultimately has far more segregation than Windows does and iracing has highly specific floating point errors]

Like, yeah, they should support Linux. That would be awesome. But they don't have to do it. Simple as that.

[440Music]

I just install Steam's 1 Click and there is at least 1 hitch that I need to figure out but over all feel positive with current results. All of my racing games have installed and I'm hoping that I can get either Assetto Corsa or iRacing working but I have 25 other racing games installed in steam from years past that were Windows 98 games.

[440Music]

I'm still trying to get Windows games to run on Ubuntu 20.04. I'm getting closer I can install just haven't got them playing yet.

In regards to the number of Linux players most of us still run a dual boot so we can play our windows games I like Road Racing and the latest release for Linux was Dirt Really II and that is not a game I'll play, I think the car and track are to difficult to handle it's the first race game I've played that I had to learn how to drive. Now that Windows 7 has reached EOL I won't spend the money to update it ever again so if Linux gaming isn't support people just like me will no longer be a customer. Seems like a small thing today but the youth and leaders of tomorrow are on hand held devices which are largely Linux based computing. Get on board now before it's too late and you Window of opportunity closes a bit more each and every second of the day.

[Internet Janitor]

how can people use linux for gaming, when most (well know and most played) games cant be played on linux?

Its like saying: I will drive a car without wheels, but it doesnt drive. f**king stupid EAC with their "we dont support other systems except windowspy 10 so we can monitor everything." Well their anti cheat sucks anyways so whats the purpose of it? Well i guess monitoring is a way of getting most data to sell nowadays...

when linux was dropped (in iRacing) windows 7 was still a supported and widely used system with a way better privacy protection compared to Windowspy 10.

I still run W7 and will not change to W10. I rather stop playing the games with EAC just to set a presedence.
Support for Linux with EAC and i will switch to a full Linux distro and drop Windows completely. As for now i only use Linux for surfing/working and it workd realy good!

I hope one day i will wake up and companys change their mind so they and we can have other solutions except the only one presented by the monopolists.

[jurosic_park]

Originally posted by Internet Janitor:

f**king stupid EAC with their "we dont support other systems except windowspy 10 so we can monitor everything."

Im an Arch user (btw) and through pure pressure from our community, EAC now works with Proton/Wine, if it wasn't for the pressure, they wouldn't have done it, because maintaining software that's specifically designed for like 1% of your playerbase is a waste of money. Another thing is, anti-cheat on GNU/Linux can monitor even more stuff than on Windows, because almost everything is exposed for programs to mess around with, but the problem is, since everything is exposed for programs to mess around with, you can hide cheats even better, to the point where they will be technically undetectable.

Take for instance a Kernel Virtual Machine of 'Windowspy 10' (nice one btw), you're gonna play Fortnite in that KVM, and EAC thinks its running on legit hardware and on Windows, it has no idea about the Linux host layer above, now what the host can do is expose the memory of the Windows 10 KVM and mess around with it in such a way that EAC will think is totally legit.

Originally posted by Internet Janitor:

how can people use linux for gaming, when most (well know and most played) games cant be played on linux?

Thats actually not true, for example, one of the biggest games CS:GO has native linux support. Many games now have native linux builds, even games like Signal SImulator, or BeamNG. Assetto Corsa works great through proton with a bit of tinkering.

Basically more than 95% of my steam library, across all of my accounts (around 400 games) works on linux Natively/through Proton.

[B✪✪tsy]

If games and software programs would all support Linux then I would switch to that OS right away. Microsoft is almost criminal with what they do with their OS. They spy and take posession of your computer and they want your full ID which is non of their business at all.

I just got a new laptop that came with Win10 and I was not even allowed to install a different browser, I could only install MS appstore junk with it. Apparently they have adeded 'S Mode' that basically bans anything from your PC that isn't MS.

[440Music]

why use linux over windows?
Windows is garbage OS and forces you to install un-needed programs.
and why do we keep asking for games to be ported for Linux? the answer is simple, linux provides better control over you PC