Multiplayer

[LordStuff]

I know this has been asked frequently, and I also read the info already provided by the devs which said adding multiplayer would be hard but still: Will this game have multiplayer?

This is about the only thing keeping my friends and me from buying it. Survival / sandbox is all nice and stuff, but we are looking for games that can be played together. Modern gaming systems allow this easily, so the only problem would be the net code. I know (as the devs also stated in various posts) that developping this code can be hard, but I multiplayer / coop is something essential to survival /sandbox games.

[Cougarific]

[LordStuff]

It is a wish, and I don't know what would be wrong about wanting to play games together with friends.

I know there are many games that excell, even without a multiplayer. But unless this game has the same depth as Witcher 3 or Skyrim, I won't buy it without one. Also open world sandbox survival games are the perfect genre for coop multiplayer! I'd understand if there was some serious story with consequential decision making. That would be a reason why adding coop is way to hard or (nearly) impossible.

But just because the code structure of a game isn't perfect for adding in netcode in an easy and convenient way... that's just a bad excuse in my honest opinion. They wouldn't be the first studio to rework some things.

This is a discussion forum, so why not just discuss such things?

[Fimbulvinter]

Part of it would be the solving the problem of asynchronous multiplayer. That would require external computing power to maintain thousands of parallel persistent worlds online to allow players to drop in and work on their base even when the other members of 'your' world aren't around.

[LordStuff]

I am not familiar with how this game saves the worlds.. but if they are saved locally (which probably is the case), then you would just open the world (as a server), and ppl could join you.. that's how it works usually, you run the server and your friends join you.. there's no need to put any strain on official servers..

[Mukatahren]

You need to take a really long and fast run-up to correctly execute the leap of faith required to believe even for one second that they will ever add multiplayer to this incarnation of Subnautica.

[OoieGooie]

Never expect a single player to go multi and frankly I buy single player games as I hate multiplayer. It also allows you to play Local so an added bonus and less chance of DRM.

As far as multiplayer game-play there isnt enough depth to keep multiple people playing for too long except once you have explored a bit and created a base or 2. A ton of new content would be required.

[shad]

Doubt there ever will be MP.

[Retrox]

There are 172198 multiplayer sandbox survival games on Steam with far more refined building, crafting, and scavenging mechanics than this one. Why do you and your friends want to play this particular one?

To me, this game feels like it's all about exploration, adventure, and discovery. The building and surviving is incidental. It will likely not have the same depth as Witcher 3 or Skyrim, because it doesn't have millions of dollars and years of development history behind it. Subnautica 2? Sure, bring on the MP.

If this game had a multiplayer focus, I wouldn't have bought it just as I didn't buy any of the other 172198 multiplayer sandbox survival games on Steam. Neither will I attempt to inject a conversation on the merits of a solid single-player experience into any one of those 172198 discussion forums.

Sorry if I sound like a ****, just real talk.

[Capn Dribble'd On His Hook]

My friends and I all picked this up on the sale and love it. we keep saying i wish we could man a sub together or find bla bla. i think it would be nice.

[Kami102]

I guess I'm one of the few that enjoys Subnautica as a singleplayer game. As retrox said, it's all about the exploration and discovery. And moving at your own pace.

I dunno man, seeing XXXDARKSEPIROTHXX and MLGproALEX streak by my screen in their Cyclopses typing dank memes in all chat kinda ruins the point of the game for me

[LordStuff]

Originally posted by OoieGooie:

Never expect a single player to go multi and frankly I buy single player games as I hate multiplayer. It also allows you to play Local so an added bonus and less chance of DRM.

As far as multiplayer game-play there isnt enough depth to keep multiple people playing for too long except once you have explored a bit and created a base or 2. A ton of new content would be required.

I still can't understand why people wouldn't want (or even hate) multiplayer in games. From your answers I can guess you really had bad experiences with trolls, griefers or rage kiddies. And I think you really missed my point. I am not talking about online multiplayer with loads of foreigners who simply ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around. I am talking about playing with 1-3 FRIENDS, who want to explore and play WITH YOU.

Originally posted by retrox:

There are 172198 multiplayer sandbox survival games on Steam with far more refined building, crafting, and scavenging mechanics than this one. Why do you and your friends want to play this particular one?

To me, this game feels like it's all about exploration, adventure, and discovery. The building and surviving is incidental. It will likely not have the same depth as Witcher 3 or Skyrim, because it doesn't have millions of dollars and years of development history behind it. Subnautica 2? Sure, bring on the MP.

If this game had a multiplayer focus, I wouldn't have bought it just as I didn't buy any of the other 172198 multiplayer sandbox survival games on Steam. Neither will I attempt to inject a conversation on the merits of a solid single-player experience into any one of those 172198 discussion forums.

Sorry if I sound like a ****, just real talk.

No offense taken!

The thing is, if you look at all those other games more closely, you can easily see that most of them are basically minecraft clones, poorly designed and often unfinished.

Also, I haven't seen an >underwater< sandbox game with a comparable scale so far. We have tons of games that let us play on land. Now they even slowly take over space. Sure, there was Far Sky, which looked much fun at first, but after buying and playing it (which took about 20 minutes) I was really pissed. After browsing the forums, I stumbled over the dev, stating that the game is not designed to last longer. WTF? I mean even if it's just one guy who made the game, you can't sell this. And you seriously can't compare this to Subnautica, which seems to have much more content.

But back to the point, there's no reason not to want to play Subnautica, right?

Originally posted by Kami102:

I guess I'm one of the few that enjoys Subnautica as a singleplayer game. As retrox said, it's all about the exploration and discovery. And moving at your own pace.

I dunno man, seeing XXXDARKSEPIROTHXX and MLGproALEX streak by my screen in their Cyclopses typing dank memes in all chat kinda ruins the point of the game for me

As I said before, when I read something like this, I start to feel like noone of you guys ever had a real coop experience. Your coop partners wouldn't be negative side effects, they would be friends you team up with and explore and build a base together with.

There's noone who'd ever set the pace for you. I'm always playing with friends or my cousin or brother, and it's much more teamwork and sharing rather than effort and annoyance.

Also, why do you think multiplayer would keep you from playing it alone in any way. It would be a feature, an option, of course, not a must.

[Loren097]

No....

[Kami102]

Originally posted by LordStuff.at:

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well yeah, that's co-op -- which could probably be good if implemented correctly. I'd have no problem with that.

MULTIPLAYER on the other hand, as in 20-30 guys on a single map hosted by a server, I don't care for at all and really has no place in a game like Subnautica

[LordStuff]

Originally posted by Kami102:

well yeah, that's co-op -- which could probably be good if implemented correctly. I'd have no problem with that.

MULTIPLAYER on the other hand, as in 20-30 guys on a single map hosted by a server, I don't care for at all and really has no place in a game like Subnautica

Then please let me correct myself, I don't want multiplayer as you just described it as I'm not really interested in this either. But coop is a sort of multiplayer, so lets just call it multiplayer coop.

[Tipau]

Please, please game as a multiplayer it never, gives millions other game in the multiplayer, why must every pixel become a multiplayer? give him game a small storry and then is smart.

Sorry me english is verry bad