pipes useless in their current state?

[O'Lucky]

Hey DEVs can we look at pipes for a second. In their current state they player can only breathe from the end pipe (last placed). This means that diving any deeper than 300m forces the player to make a dash following the pipe back to the surface (or base). It also means that the player HAS to return a second type to collect all of the pipes, and using waterlockers arent applicable because the lockers have to be empty to be moved!

1)
DEVs please make pipes so that they dont take up inventory space + waterlockers can be moved with items within them + pipes can be broken along the chain so that the player can breathe along the pipes back up to the surface.

Im trying to play the entire game without the cyclops or seamoth. I really want to use pipes again because of how much fun they are to use, but really the only way to get 700+ metres down is by either bioreactor/thermal bases / seamoth / cyclops.

The only time I have used pipes in 3 playthroughs was during my first when exploring a deep cave 300-500m deep, but the cave really didnt have anything that i couldnt otherwise find in either the open ocean or the "LOST RIVER". Caves must also be worth searching through... otherwise whats the point of cave diving...

2)
Make caves worth while EXPLORING!

[BlackWater]

Pipes have a use, what i don't like about them is once you have better options, the pipes and pump can't be recycled, you can always throw them in a trash can, but i hate building something I don't need. To reach deeper depths you can always craft a 2nd batch. As you surface from a depper area, you can take each pipe off the chain so you can breathe as you go up.

[Alkpaz]

Sureeeee..

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1296644100

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1296719716

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1296744824

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1298122060

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1298332725

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1236703793

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1236698402

Or you could do what ImHelping suggested.. used 5 upgraded O2 tanks, and forget the pipes altogether.

Another option is to use growbeds with braincoral.

[O'Lucky]

U cant take pipes off from anywhere but the end of the chain though... which u wouldnt have room for anyway because of all the items ur carrying HENCE A SECOND RETURN TO COLLECT THE PIPES.

[BlackWater]

Well, its your Sunautica, Pipe it or in my case, Seamoth it your way.

[Alkpaz]

Originally posted by BlackWater:

Well, its your Sunautica, Pipe it or in my case, Seamoth it your way.

Too bad you can't do a "no vehicle" run with Subnatica since you have to build a Cyclops. :/

[O'Lucky]

Did anyone ever feel like they HAD to enter a small one man deep cave like the one in the mushroom area?! I didnt once i realised everything dowthere also grows up in the open ocean along cliffs. So my point is what is the point of cave diving?

[Flute Seller]

I use pipes at the start of the game to gather resources in those massive coral tubes around the safe shallows. I also use them for wreck scavenging in the grassy plateaus while I'm looking for mobile vehicle bay fragments and battery chargers.

[Demon of Razgriz]

Originally posted by Alkpaz:

Originally posted by BlackWater:

Well, its your Sunautica, Pipe it or in my case, Seamoth it your way.

Too bad you can't do a "no vehicle" run with Subnatica since you have to build a Cyclops. :/

Yeah, but you could build it and not move it at all or use it other than the 1 fabricator item, so it is still essentially a no vehicle run.

[Demon of Razgriz]

If pipes could be disassembled, I would use them, but since they can't, I don't want to waste Titanium building them.

[Asus]

Imo pipes are unnecessary. I'm still on my first playthrough and I already have a base in the Lost River (without using pipes).

[Alkpaz]

bases are unnecessary.. all you need is pipes, thermal blade and stillsuit. :P

[Asus]

Originally posted by Alkpaz:

bases are unnecessary.. all you need is pipes, thermal blade and stillsuit. :P

Bases are necessary if you WANT a base. :P

Point is, I got this far in the game without the so-called NEED for pipes.

[O'Lucky]

Has anyone ever entered a cave system only wide enough for one person and used pipes? if so, was that cave system more for resources or for the thrill of exploring?

[[RAIN]deer]

Originally posted by Demon_of_Razgriz:

Yeah, but you could build it and not move it at all or use it other than the 1 fabricator item, so it is still essentially a no vehicle run.

And this is basically what Subnautica speedrunning is. Well, at least any%. They'll build a Seaglide and nothing else until they have the rocket plans, and the Cyclops is built after the rocket is partially finished, with the only purpose it serves being the shield.

Although, if a player gets positioning right they can use the Cyclops to tilt the rocket platform for a brief time, making it much faster to climb onto (no climbing animation.) From what I've watched this takes too much time/luck to get so no one intentionally does it.

[theresejesu]

Originally posted by Demon_of_Razgriz:

If pipes could be disassembled, I would use them, but since they can't, I don't want to waste Titanium building them.

Titanium is everywhere. How is it a waste?