I wish we had a mod for the hunger / thirst mechanic..

[Ghojo]

It totally breaks the immersion for me. In real life, a human being can go for 40+ days without food, and at least 3 days without water.

But here in subnautica, for some reason, humans turned into fragile little beings with a medical condition that requires them to drink and eat like crazy.

I really wish we a had mod support for this game, then I would just go and mod the depletion rate for it to realistic levels.

It's just totally stupid that you die immediately once your hunger or thirst meter runs out. This is the one thing I hate about survival games, it's just a lazy game mechanic to force longer playtime through scavenging.
And it could easily be made fun with just a few additions (like hunger effects) and changes.

[Pavol]

Originally posted by Ghojo:

It totally breaks the immersion for me. In real life, a human being can go for 40+ days without food, and at least 3 days without water.

But here in subnautica, for some reason, humans turned into fragile little beings with a medical condition that requires them to drink and eat like crazy.

I really wish we a had mod support for this game, then I would just go and mod the depletion rate for it to realistic levels. :(

Yes they can 'survive' that long without food or water. Surviving is not moving around and doing the day to day. You also can't 3D print houses and spaceships. Try not drinking or eating for multiple days while getting on with life, after 24 hours you'll be a complete mess.

[BuQQzz]

You also have to keep in mind that your swimming, which from experiencing it myself makes you tired, hungry, and thirsty really quick!

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

well 1.. this is a game. So why in the F would you make a survival game that lets you wait 1 week before eating anything? Boring....

and 2, the time scale is increased. so 1 game day is supposed to reflect 1 real life day. If you watch your food bar, it takes roughly 7 in-game days for it to go down.

cheers.

[Gangrene]

Not to mention you're swimming around in a BACTERIA SOUP constantly.

[Reor]

Basicaly what Debvovnek says...
Humans CAN survive that long without food etc.
But these humans are not swiming non stop, carrying a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of stuff around to ensure their survival and build stuff, etc like our char is dooing.

Do you think during a non stop workout you won´t be in need of food?
It allways baffles me when people come up with such vaccum statistics and want to apply them to completly different scenarios.

[Ghojo]

Originally posted by Reor:

Basicaly what Debvovnek says...
Humans CAN survive that long without food etc.
But these humans are not swiming non stop, carrying a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of stuff around to ensure their survival and build stuff, etc like our char is dooing.

Do you think during a non stop workout you won´t be in need of food?
It allways baffles me when people come up with such vaccum statistics and want to apply them to completly different scenarios.

Well and it baffles me when people with no real life experience come out and talk about stuff they do no understand.

I have been working as an aid develoment helper in Africa (Burkina Faso) and I have been in natural disaster areas. People are able to work and do heavy lifting for multiple days with very little food intake. The human body has energy reserves for that.

Yes you will be hungry and weaker and generally p*****d and angry because you've nothing to eat, but you do not need to eat 5 times a day to keep yourself from fainting.
What do you think the bottom poor workers in india get for food every day? Not much, I can tell you that.

And do you really think if you do not eat for one day, you will just fall over and die? How many people do you see die from starvation every day? Or from dehydration?


Also, the time argument is bullsh*t because you're still swimming and moving in real world time. It's only that the day-night cycle is extremely fast.

[Iced Nova]

so bitter over a video game. Implement realistic hunger next day someone will post "what is the point of hunger in a video game if you only need to eat once every 168 hours. i dont even have 168 hours playtime!

[Amanoob105]

*Starts new game in freedom mode*. Problem solved.

[Zalzany]

Umm what? What you google how long a vegatable state human can live with water for that 40+ days BS? You telling me you can swim for like 20 hours a day for 40+ days with out food. You are freaking moron. Always kids show up "I am sedimantery and do no physical activities worth talkingabout and I almsot never have to eat." I was miltary child go march for 2 hours straight, you eat your own damn arm. Swim for 4 hours I dare you, not wade in the shallow end swim with flippers for 4 houts straight, I bet you can't do its damn exhausting and I bet you want food when your done.

See little on this how it works you burn calories you get hungry. I can be lazy and eat one meal on a day off. But I can take another day off and ride my bike for 12 miles, and eat 3 fat meals and still lose weight as I burned that many calories that day. Child this is why we eat more while active your burning calories you can live for 40+ days sure if you just lay there like a vegatbale, but you active like you would be in this game you would be hunced over wit hunger pains by lunch time if you skipped breakfast.

And GOJO I call BS again on the aid worker ♥♥♥♥ you have to have stockpiles of calarlies aka fat stores to do that, adn its still not healthy to do for days on end. Also those people tend to get hurt and have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ life spans from malinutration. They also eat high calorie meals, might be one meal but its like 3k or more empty or not calories. Stop freaking googling BS crap, go enlist you learn first hand how it really works just marching glorfied walking for 2 hours with half the ♥♥♥♥ you could carry in this gam on you back and you will be having hunger pains. And also you pushing your self harder then those people in africa yet again sure they do heavy lifting but swiming constalntly and you don't sleep in game, so it might well be 24 hours a day, yeah 5 meals is about right. Don't like it get a damn mini sub you burn less calories.

I mean christ in boot I must burned 5k calories a day in the feild. I was eating MREs two tiems a day that well over a thousand callories a meal, and I still lost weight every long stent in feild training. I mean I was being served at least one meal a day rice and gravy as empty calorie filler, and I still could lose 5 lbs in a week in the feild of fat. When I got out of boot the last 2 week excecise in feild alone I lost 9 lbs of fat, and I was already pretty lean by then.

[Ghojo]

Originally posted by Amanoob105:

*Starts new game in freedom mode*. Problem solved.

Yes I did that, but now the game is way too easy. Although the exploration is nice with the beautiful environment.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by Amanoob105:

*Starts new game in freedom mode*. Problem solved.

Rofl.. if you dont know how to stay alive on this game, out of al lsurvivor games this one is far the easyest.... >.>

[Zalzany]

I mean there is a reason there is the expession an army marches on it stomach. I mean simming high calorie burn. Go find some one who does swiming as a sport they train for, tehy can confirm for you its crazy high callorie intake sport. I mean comparing it to african refugees who don't work as hard, or do as rigours work is just insane. I get they do work harder then most especially you, but I have done a lot of high calorie work real high calorie work. Like for example I still do endurnce rides once a week of 12 miles straight, its insane how many calories I burn doing that, I lose about half a pound of fat every time I do it, that is why I do it I got big from eating like I was in army still wit ha sedimantery life style like yours.

Now I do the high calorie work outs for lesuire of sorts to keep myself in shape but trust me I got a few uphill routes I can take i can burn 2k calories (that is a normal persons recomended calorie intake for entire day) from just one ride, and hate myself the next day with how sore I will be as my body starts pulling nutriats from not jsut the fat but all over to make up for the trashed muscle tissue.

If you don't even know basics about diet and callories simmer down and keep your mout shut as you like a complete fool. Hell you should see what a body builder needs to eat just to maintain muscle mass child lol Your head would spin they got eat like 12 balanced meals a day to maintain those bodies, because all that muscle inhales callories and nutrients

[hugdealer]

this constant timer mechanic is kind of the only thing keeping me on the fence right now. might grab the game and check it out. been on my wishlist for a long while!

but, i will also kind of say that food/water timers going down quickly are sort of boring to me past a point. when it becomes a chore preventing me from doing something else i'd rather do, like explore a cool world then it makes me kind of just want to play other games.

are there difficulty settings? i don't really care about trophys or whatever. i'm kind of busy in real life and would rather play certain games at a leisurely pace. an 'easy' or whatever mode where resources tick down much slower would be really great to consider. i play certain games hardcore style and it doesn't really allow me to go hardcore on others. my main love is FPS gaming at 144hz right now.

i saw some video's that said they enabled cheats, so maybe i can tweak the game to be played how it would be most enjoyable for me. since its a single players game i would be fine with it. i just want to have some fun and get scared here and there :]

regardless. game looks amazing, nice work!

[The Big Brzezinski]

@OP

Would you prefer to have the hunger/thirst system function primarily as a gameplay component or an aesthetic component?

[Cougarific]

Originally posted by Ghojo:

Originally posted by Amanoob105:

*Starts new game in freedom mode*. Problem solved.

Yes I did that, but now the game is way too easy.

Wait...too hard in Survival mode because of the hunger/thirst mechanic and too easy in Freedom mode because there's no hunger/thirst mechanic?

Can't please everybody.