Hey developers selfmade decks made the game too easy.

[riomarbastos]

Really now we jus make a deck with loads of card draws and game done, at least remove those from card selection and rare cards too, no point selecting the starting decks since none will be useful now.

[No Ragrets]

I still take the regular decks, selfmade is too much rng, most of the time i try to use it i just get a bad deck and would rather just take a starter so i dont have to mess around trying to get good rng.

[HaikenEdge]

Then don't use the self-made decks?

[riomarbastos]

Publicado originalmente por HaikenEdge:

Then don't use the self-made decks?

You right but my intention was not clear in topic, my intention is that they can adjust it so one of the best mechanics that is unlocking new decks is not wasted, they can even make selfmade decks like last option of choosen decks but to give it free is like what point to waste resources if I can have the best option free? I came from the seven seas (it was 1.0 version without the selfmade deck) and liking the game I purchased it, my first try I achieved 3 chapter with selfmade deck, its like it was not roguelite anymore, and sorry I cant turn blind and make my grind harder if they gave an option to have an easy game, its just games like this lose a little of roguelite aspect and they can fix it, not me, they are the developers..

[Pixel Peeper]

Admittedly it does make the Library upgrades much less appealing: they functionally do nothing for you. I immediately noticed, and I did upgrade the other buildings to a high level before I bothered upgrading the Library.

Could use a bit of tweaking, but it's not a huge issue, and certainly not a long-term one.

[Keluric]

They pre-made an are very handy for a new player I would think.

[HaikenEdge]

Publicado originalmente por riomarbastos:

Publicado originalmente por HaikenEdge:

Then don't use the self-made decks?

You right but my intention was not clear in topic, my intention is that they can adjust it so one of the best mechanics that is unlocking new decks is not wasted, they can even make selfmade decks like last option of choosen decks but to give it free is like what point to waste resources if I can have the best option free? I came from the seven seas (it was 1.0 version without the selfmade deck) and liking the game I purchased it, my first try I achieved 3 chapter with selfmade deck, its like it was not roguelite anymore, and sorry I cant turn blind and make my grind harder if they gave an option to have an easy game, its just games like this lose a little of roguelite aspect and they can fix it, not me, they are the developers..

That sounds like a you problem, not a problem you should force onto other players. Don't yuck somebody else's fun just because you're not into it.

[Cindeerella]

Option to make your own deck is something that really put MftD significantly above other deckbuilders games. Yes game lacks difficulty and content, but mechanically it’s 1000x time more enjoyable than StS that constantly cripple and pressuring you to make whole experience as unenjoyable as possible. It’s very fun spending all my starting gold just to kick crappy starting cards, wow, gameplay just :thumbsup:

[thefollowingcharacters]

Not everyone wants to manage random cards. Its nice that they have the options for players to slowly learn the game and try strategies they didn't think of.

[riomarbastos]

It was not said "remove" it was said "adjust", the most powerful selection of decks should be a prize in roguelite not a free easy mode, like said developers should find a solution as it makes some features of game useless using resources like the select decks and even fear points to unlock new cards as they are already unlocked in free deck, it just mae loads of game options useless.

[Pixel Peeper]

Publicado originalmente por riomarbastos:

It was not said "remove" it was said "adjust", the most powerful selection of decks should be a prize in roguelite not a free easy mode, like said developers should find a solution as it makes some features of game useless using resources like the select decks and even fear points to unlock new cards as they are already unlocked in free deck, it just mae loads of game options useless.

Cards that haven't been unlocked through the Monolith are already available in free deck building mode? Huh... I didn't know that. That's probably not intended. And it makes the "premade decks are bad purchases" problem even worse.

But the game is still being updated. Locked cards being available is something I would imagine will be patched.

We also don't fully know what's coming. I was irritated that construction materials are still a thing even after construction is complete (I'm still seeing available construction materials, getting Storehouses in my travel decks, and Mystical Sphere relics showing up), but I have since then realized that they might be retained because there are going to be more buildings in a later patch or an expansion DLC or something.

Keep the feedback coming and the devs will decide what they want to do about it.

[HaikenEdge]

Publicado originalmente por riomarbastos:

It was not said "remove" it was said "adjust", the most powerful selection of decks should be a prize in roguelite not a free easy mode, like said developers should find a solution as it makes some features of game useless using resources like the select decks and even fear points to unlock new cards as they are already unlocked in free deck, it just mae loads of game options useless.

Counterpoint: the first four levels of the library exists only to be busy work and all the pre-made decks should be available to the players from the beginning. The library should mostly reduce the amount of XP need for cards to upgrade.

That said, cards that haven't been unlocked through Fear should not be available for use in self-made decks until they've been unlocked with Fear.

[Pixel Peeper]

Publicado originalmente por HaikenEdge:

Counterpoint: the first four levels of the library exists only to be busy work and all the pre-made decks should be available to the players from the beginning. The library should mostly reduce the amount of XP need for cards to upgrade.

That said, cards that haven't been unlocked through Fear should not be available for use in self-made decks until they've been unlocked with Fear.

I am in agreement with this: the decks should be available from the start, cards that are unlocked via the Monolith should not be available in the custom deck until they have been unlocked, and the library should give proper bonuses.

The bonuses being related to card upgrades is a solid suggestion too, a lot of people have been saying that it's a problem that we are incentivized to stall during combat (it's counterintuitive, boring, and it makes runs too long).

[James Finn (reformed!)]

Publicado originalmente por HaikenEdge:

Then don't use the self-made decks?

[Bush]

Premades are when you're just starting out and need to get a grasp of the card pool, strengths/weaknesses of each class, etc.

Drafting you can make a more finely tuned starter deck, and is fun when you take all three classes card pools into consideration. Personally, I think its fine. What they should do is just tune the Library to do something else, and instead have the decks unlock as you acquire more cards. That could work, maybe???

[DuckAndCower]

I personally find some of the starter decks to be more powerful than drafting most of the time.