Gamepad support - please

[v00d00m4n]

Ok ok, before mouse lovers start to attack me, as this always happens in gamepad thread - you get you mouse support now, so go away from this thread, additional gamepad support would not alter your expirience!
You and your ignorance and arrogance already caused game which evolved to 3D adventure from 2D point and click to degrade back to level of 1st games, you ctried to much about quite awesome Sleeping Dragon. Then they did 3D BS 4 which was not so awesome, it was still 3D buit in tems of controls it degraged back to point and click mechanics and lacked gamepad support. Now your cries (and probably lack of finance caused by your cries about 2 prev games) turned game back to 2D drawn QUEST... it really feels like downgrade, you did what you can to let this game throw away 10 years of progress and return to clunky pixel-hunting mechanics and 2D flatness (damn i dream to see BS in full 3D now when its possible i cant), and with mouse controls only. Happy now? Go away then, you won already, you have nothing to lose.

Now message to devs and supporters - okey we can deal with degradation to 2D if story and general gameplay could be good, but there is no reason to not add gamepad support to same mechanics.
How?
Play any of Telltale games like Walking Dead or Among The Wolfs or any else (this is actually how Broken Sword 5 should be done nowadays, with more challengin puzzles ofcourse and with less or none of QTE), look at two not so old yet remakes of Monkey Island 1 & 2 - all of them are pretty much mouse \ cursor point and click oriented games, but support gamepad, where one stick moves character and nother act as mouse cursor emular and both trggers acts like left and right mouse buttons and other buttons are shortcust to inventory, settings, save\load and other functions, to help players avoid frustration from moving slowly (due of gamepad design) cursor to icons of such features.

Native gamepad support like this could be done in one day of codding! Xinput and dinput codding is pretty simple and even i once learned and coded gamepad support just in one day, so for industry veterans (if there are still any in BS5 team), things like this is piece of cake and would not take a lot of time!

Please. add gamepad support!
There are many players who does not buy or play games which has no gamepad support! Thisi is very actually problem since many players now tend to use steam BIG PICTURE mode and play games with PC advantages but with level of console comfort. Also there are some disabled and sick players who needs to play with gamepad and cant do it with mouse or keyb due of medical reason, please take this into account before saying "No!" or "Maybe".

[Gav]

it's a point and click. you cannot point and click with a controller without it being awful. i'm not against the idea but in this case it just would not work. so no. not going to happen. telltale are the only ones who make point and click adventure games that are controller based.

[Paul]

worked perfectly when i played the beta using xpadder last week. proper support would be good though. the ability to move characters with the stick instead of clicking would be a start.

[v00d00m4n]

Originally posted by gavinuk86:

it's a point and click. you cannot point and click with a controller without it being awful. i'm not against the idea but in this case it just would not work. so no. not going to happen. telltale are the only ones who make point and click adventure games that are controller based.

Above is a message which already has answer to your post before you even post it, you cant write something like which was already adressed before you write it, without you being awful reader.

I will repeat it again - playe any of Telltale games, and latest 3 Monkey island games including 2 from LucasArts (these guys alongside the Sierra Online was main pushers of quest genre before Broken Sword was cool) and tell how its not going to happen.

There is no problem using gamepad as mouse cursor and character controller the way it was done in Walking Dear or Monkey Island remakes!

I finished them all with no problems in gamepad!

Damn, i even finished BS1 & 2 & 4, The Longest Journey, Runaway 1-3 and al lot of other point and click games with gamepad (but due of not native support with external Pinnacle Game Profiler i was a little laggy and not as smooth as native support, however its enough to finish the game, but lack of gamepad UI or shortcuts to inventory in some cased bothered me).

So anyone, please dont tell me its impossible! Its possible and pretty much easy and fast to implement on native level.

[Sheldipez]

Xpadder - it's your friend. Instantgamepad support, I get a lot of RSI from mouse use (work with a PC too so no escape!) and have to swap to contoller sometimes on games that dont natively support it.

[twincast]

The irony of you complaining about ignorance and arrogance contrasted with the statements you make and the language you use is simply delicious.

[v00d00m4n]

No its not may friedn, i prefer Pinnacle, but all tools are paid and despite i have them, others dont - people dont need to pay extra for gamepad support. Another thing is - there is no gamepad UI in game which makes it feel inconsistent and sometime annoying and disorienting. ANother thing there is no seprarate controls for character movements, and last thing - third party tools has DELAY in input, and the emulation of gamepad with Keyb + mouse not as smooth and precise as native support. Trust me, i was one of the very first user of Pinnacle Game Profiler back in 2005 and some features you can see there was suggested and heavily lobbied (lol) by me, and xpadder even not existed back then. So i know for sure how gamepads and tools like that works, sometime i use AHK or AI to code my simplified gamepad emularotrs for specific games if i need to fix just a few buttons while others works out of box, and yet again - i have knowledge how that works and im know pretty well that external emulator adds delays and a little clunky comparing to native gamepad support, and UI is always an issue emulators cant fix (however i fixed gamepad UI for few games, last one was Psyhonauts, you can google for my PsychoPad patch to see what i mean), and in some games it really hard or impossible to make unofficial ui patch, due of lack of editing tools or hard resource managing techniques.

So all this mean that native support is above the all and the best if its done right!

[Gromber]

use xpadder or pinnacle profile or play other game... this is broken sword, the original series plays with mouse

[HDxDaniel]

PC = Mouse and Keyboard, so if you want to play with Controller wait for the PS Vita or console version.
(Or use xpadder...) :)

[Paul]

haha wow can't believe the last few comments... especially the horsey guy. what a load of bollocks.

[Mr. Lambert]

Go away, you are a horrible person. Play with your console and stop trying to ruin PC games.

[Gav]

anyone disagreeing with my statement is just plain wrong, especially voodooman who apparently can't even comprehend the queens english. nevermind. play point and click adventures with mouse and keyboard or don't play them at all. topic sorted. closed. bury to never be mentioned again. well, unless you need a giggle.

[darkman]

No fighting kids. No excuse for any game not to have gamepad support unless it's unplayable with it. Which would not be the case here. It's just laziness because it hardly takes skill or effort to support it in a game, and some people just like their controller, simple as that.

[Poison]

Originally posted by gavinuk86:

anyone disagreeing with my statement is just plain wrong, especially voodooman who apparently can't even comprehend the queens english. nevermind. play point and click adventures with mouse and keyboard or don't play them at all. topic sorted. closed. bury to never be mentioned again. well, unless you need a giggle.

I really understand what you're saying here but I think we're missing some important factors.
As a adventure player, you're looking for adventure games, not specific "point'n'click" games, right? It's not like you're a point'n'click player who says "OMFG, a new point'n'click game, must have" just because it's point'n'click ;)

Don't get me wrong here, I've played those games since first Monkey Island and even Indiana Jones, but thats like 15 years ago? If we didn't develope as gamers as well as games in these 15 years I would buy your argument. But we have.

More and more games are played communion with eachother. In my case, adventure gaming has found into my living room, in front of my couch, into my HTPC, with a controller and together with my girlfriend. Since we're two, playing togheter, a singeplayer game it would not be nice to make her sit beside a PC in a chair.

Telltale has understood this, Steam as well with their progression with the Steambox.

So.. as a big fan of Broken Sword, I regret to say that I will not buy this game until it support a controller. And that really hurt to say :'(

[SoniXX]

Why not just use Xpadder till the game gets maybe full controller support in the future (it's more important to finish and polish the game with episode 2 than controller support at the moment)

[losturtle1]

Some people here are utterly disgusting, foul excuses for human beings. Why is anyone even trying to respond to people like that gavinuk guy? (i guess it's supposed to be Gavin UK or something but instead sounds like an eastern european dish no one serves anymore) Ignorance can't be changed. Let him bash people who are different or make vast, outlandish unresearched statements about things on the internet. Just ignore him and the world will be a better place.

I don't care that you like controllers and I like keyboards, sometimes I like them more for whatever reason as well. All you can do is ask, man. Sometimes it takes a lot of reworking to get full controller support and since it's basically a PC exclusive, they might not go down that route. I actually really enjoy playing adventure games from my couch, so all I did was get a cheap wireless mouse and keyboard combo. Just sit the keyboard on the coffee table with the mouse on my knee and only cost me like $25. Works so well, even played a few point and click RPGs (Shadowrun Returns) like that too.