Flummery level 25 Help?

[Dreki]

I can't seem to figure out how to solve the green and the blue part, has anyone managed it?

[quiznos00]

If you're just trying to solve the level, try to figure out just the blue part. The red and yellow sections are trivial, and the blue one requires slightly less rearranging of blocks to solve than the green. I looked at how to solve the green section later using a Sokoban solver and it's pretty ridiculous.

[random 8]

From the same Sokoban solver quiznos00 used, here are the minimum number of moves required for each room:

To and from gravel tile:

• Yellow—52
  
• Red—36 (my solution has 42)
  
• Blue—104
  
• Green—176 (my solution has 196)

[StingCleavage]

I thought the green section was impossible, as you do not need it to complete the level.

[Eric]

I can't figure out the blue area either. It almost looks impossible to do.

[Haze]

for the blue room, I suggest starting with the panel closest to the door. Get a box on there first, while keeping your paths free.

I couldn't solve the green room either. Too hard for me!

[Eric]

Tried putting a block there first, and it's not working. I think this level is unplayable.

[StingCleavage]

There is always the hint button :)

[ScytheRider]

Originally posted by StingCleavage:

There is always the hint button :)

"There is no replay available for this level."

[Allack]

Yes no hints for Flummery just yet that would be to easy

[ScytheRider]

Dang, that level 25 is BRUTAL. Such a small Sokoban puzzle, that blue room, and I focused for nearly 3 hours and I still can't get it. I feel like I suck at my favorite kind of puzzle!

There are always auto-solvers, but I will continue to try for a while more.

[Allack]

Originally posted by CtrlAltDestroy:

Dang, that level 25 is BRUTAL. Such a small Sokoban puzzle, that blue room, and I focused for nearly 3 hours and I still can't get it. I feel like I suck at my favorite kind of puzzle!

There are always auto-solvers, but I will continue to try for a while more.

If you it makes you feel any better I'm still trying to solve it too.

[ScytheRider]

Holy crap, I solved the blue room. I had to port it to my own Sokoban engine to mess around with it more easily (which also recorded my performance so I could review the sequence when I got it), but I got the trick.

Yess, I still got it.

Further hints:

- Set the leftmost 3 blocks into an "L" shape.
- Push one of the blocks onto the leftmost button, and then past it down one space.
- Do some stuff with the other blocks
- Push the leftmost block back onto the button.

[random 8]

Originally posted by CtrlAltDestroy:

There are always auto-solvers, but I will continue to try for a while more.

I solved each of the rooms on my own. I only used a Sokoban program to optimize.