"Clavicus Vile demands a more powerful champion"....

[relax with my horns]

This is at his shrine, I wanted to start the quest because I'm level 17 and I remember it being fun (I may be thinking of another shrine quest with a village, but anyways). I certainly have more than 500 gold to donate as an offering to Clavicus, but I'm still told when interacting with the shrine, "Clavicus Vile demands a more powerful champion to begin this quest.". Does anyone know why this is or how I can fix it? I should be a high enough level to start this, and I definitely have the funds.

For anyone assuming that for some reason I wouldn't just look it up, I did:
https://oblivionremastered.wiki.fextralife.com/Clavicus+Vile

Led me to this wiki which said I needed to be at least level 10 to start the quest.

[Varanus]

Have to be level 20, apparently.

[space]

you know this info can be looked up in like 5 seconds? even the message you're getting is obvious

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Clavicus_Vile

Quest Giver: Ma'Raska at Clavicus Vile's Shrine
Location(s): Vindasel
Reward: Masque of Clavicus Vile
Fame/Infamy: Fame +1 or none if Umbra is kept
ID: DAClavicusVile
Required Items: 500 gold
Required Level: 20, though the quest can be completed at any level (see below)

[vram1974]

Azura: Minimum Level: 2, Requires an offering of Glow Dust
Must be summoned at dawn (5-7am) or dusk (5-7pm)

Boethia: Minimum Level: 20 - Requires an offering of a Daedra Heart

Clavicus Vile: Minimum Level: 20 - Requires an offering of 500 gold

Hermaeus Mora: Minimum Level: 20 - Requires the completion of all 14 Daedric Quests

Hircine: Minimum Level: 17 - Requires an offering of Wolf or Bear Pelt

Malacath: Minimum Level: 10 - Requires an offering of Troll Fat

Mephala: Minimum Level: 15 - Requires an offering of Nightshade

Meridia: Minimum Level: 10 - Requires Ectoplasm, Bonemeal, or Mort Flesh

Molag Bal: Minimum Level: 17 - Requires an offering of Lion Pelt

Namira: Minimum Level: 5 - Requires a Personality attribute of less than 20

Nocturnal: Minimum Level: 10

Peryite: Minimum Level: 10

Sanguine: Minimum Level: 8 - Requires an offering of Cyrodilic Brandy

Sheogorath: Minimum Level: 2 - Requires Lettuce, a Lesser Soul Gem, and Yarn

Vaermina: Minimum Level: 5 - Requires an offering of a Black Soul Gem

[Vaporwave Spirit]

Originally posted by space:

you know this info can be looked up in like 5 seconds? even the message you're getting is obvious

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Clavicus_Vile

Quest Giver: Ma'Raska at Clavicus Vile's Shrine
Location(s): Vindasel
Reward: Masque of Clavicus Vile
Fame/Infamy: Fame +1 or none if Umbra is kept
ID: DAClavicusVile
Required Items: 500 gold
Required Level: 20, though the quest can be completed at any level (see below)

OP's question is the exact reason why the forums exist. Don't shame him for asking a question.

[vram1974]

Originally posted by Vaporwave Spirit:

Originally posted by space:

you know this info can be looked up in like 5 seconds? even the message you're getting is obvious

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Clavicus_Vile

Quest Giver: Ma'Raska at Clavicus Vile's Shrine
Location(s): Vindasel
Reward: Masque of Clavicus Vile
Fame/Infamy: Fame +1 or none if Umbra is kept
ID: DAClavicusVile
Required Items: 500 gold
Required Level: 20, though the quest can be completed at any level (see below)

OP's question is the exact reason why the forums exist. Don't shame him for asking a question.

I kinda have to agree with "space" on this one. It's something easily looked up. However, yeah, it's good forums exist to provide some help.

[relax with my horns]

Originally posted by vram1974:

Originally posted by Vaporwave Spirit:

OP's question is the exact reason why the forums exist. Don't shame him for asking a question.

I kinda have to agree with "space" on this one. It's something easily looked up. However, yeah, it's good forums exist to provide some help.

When looked up, the source I found said the quest required level 10. That's why I came to the forums. This information wasn't consistent, so that's why I needed to ask.

[relax with my horns]

Originally posted by space:

you know this info can be looked up in like 5 seconds? even the message you're getting is obvious

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Clavicus_Vile

Quest Giver: Ma'Raska at Clavicus Vile's Shrine
Location(s): Vindasel
Reward: Masque of Clavicus Vile
Fame/Infamy: Fame +1 or none if Umbra is kept
ID: DAClavicusVile
Required Items: 500 gold
Required Level: 20, though the quest can be completed at any level (see below)

It's not like I didn't google it and find the quest on the wiki. It said level 10 when I looked at it, don't reply to people if you're just gonna be rude about it, no one wants to hear it and it probably makes people afraid to ask questions because they'll be afraid someone will huff and puff just because they might have missed where online they could have found the info

[milehigh026]

Originally posted by vram1974:

Originally posted by Vaporwave Spirit:

OP's question is the exact reason why the forums exist. Don't shame him for asking a question.

I kinda have to agree with "space" on this one. It's something easily looked up. However, yeah, it's good forums exist to provide some help.

There's very little about this game that I don't know. I played the original for 1000s of hours so I don't mind sharing some tips and stuff with new players.

But at some point people need to figure things out on their own. There's tons of resources available to look up anything that you want to know about the game. There's the wiki page, and literally 100s of different walk through sites. Asking a question on the forums that you could have looked up yourself in 2.2 seconds is really just being lazy. You can't expect someone else to be your personal Google.

[space]

Originally posted by Vaporwave Spirit:

OP's question is the exact reason why the forums exist. Don't shame him for asking a question.

so the forums exist for information that can be looked up within literal seconds which is far faster than making a thread and waiting for someone to respond? are you for real?

[relax with my horns]

Originally posted by space:

Originally posted by Vaporwave Spirit:

OP's question is the exact reason why the forums exist. Don't shame him for asking a question.

so the forums exist for information that can be looked up within literal seconds which is far faster than making a thread and waiting for someone to respond? are you for real?

Yeah so forums are spaces for discussions, or questions about the game. Doy, looking it up is way faster. If I'd gotten the correct info, then I wouldn't have to deal with people who are on forums too much being stuck up about sharing info or advice that seems pretty trivial to find, but really, not everyone knows which wiki is "the right wiki" or that there even is a "right wiki" to look at.

You guys suck. Sorry, you just do.

https://oblivionremastered.wiki.fextralife.com/Clavicus+Vile

This is where I found the incorrect information in the first place, and is the reason I had to come on here to ask, because it doesn't sound right. The section labeled "How to unlock Clavicus Vile's Quest" for this wiki about Oblivion Remastered specifically states, "You must be at least level 10 to start this quest."

I shouldn't have to defend that I'm not lazy, but whatever.

[NightOwl7]

Originally posted by relax with my horns:

Originally posted by space:

so the forums exist for information that can be looked up within literal seconds which is far faster than making a thread and waiting for someone to respond? are you for real?

Yeah so forums are spaces for discussions, or questions about the game. Doy, looking it up is way faster. If I'd gotten the correct info, then I wouldn't have to deal with people who are on forums too much being stuck up about sharing info or advice that seems pretty trivial to find, but really, not everyone knows which wiki is "the right wiki" or that there even is a "right wiki" to look at.

You guys suck. Sorry, you just do.

https://oblivionremastered.wiki.fextralife.com/Clavicus+Vile

This is where I found the incorrect information in the first place, and is the reason I had to come on here to ask, because it doesn't sound right. The section labeled "How to unlock Clavicus Vile's Quest" for this wiki about Oblivion Remastered specifically states, "You must be at least level 10 to start this quest."

I shouldn't have to defend that I'm not lazy, but whatever.

Use this link https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Clavicus_Vile
Fextralife is not good for answers in my opinion. UESP says you need to be level 20 to do this quest. UESP is the best source of information on this game.

[relax with my horns]

Originally posted by milehigh026:

Originally posted by vram1974:

I kinda have to agree with "space" on this one. It's something easily looked up. However, yeah, it's good forums exist to provide some help.

There's very little about this game that I don't know. I played the original for 1000s of hours so I don't mind sharing some tips and stuff with new players.

But at some point people need to figure things out on their own. There's tons of resources available to look up anything that you want to know about the game. There's the wiki page, and literally 100s of different walk through sites. Asking a question on the forums that you could have looked up yourself in 2.2 seconds is really just being lazy. You can't expect someone else to be your personal Google.

For the record, I did look it up before posting. The wiki I found said the required level was 10, which I had already surpassed, so I was confused when the quest wouldn’t start. That’s why I came to the forum- to get clarification from people who might know more. I wasn’t trying to "use anyone as my personal Google," I was just trying to figure out why I was getting wrong info from the wiki.

I get that this kind of question might be obvious to some of you, especially if you've played thousands of hours and know where to find accurate info, but not everyone is coming from the same place or using the same resources. Dismissing people or calling them lazy when they’re actively trying to solve a problem doesn’t make people want to ask questions, and makes the forum hostile and gatekeepy. Maybe in the future people can be a little more patient and a little less eager to assume the worst.

[relax with my horns]

Originally posted by NightOwl7:

Originally posted by relax with my horns:

Yeah so forums are spaces for discussions, or questions about the game. Doy, looking it up is way faster. If I'd gotten the correct info, then I wouldn't have to deal with people who are on forums too much being stuck up about sharing info or advice that seems pretty trivial to find, but really, not everyone knows which wiki is "the right wiki" or that there even is a "right wiki" to look at.

You guys suck. Sorry, you just do.

https://oblivionremastered.wiki.fextralife.com/Clavicus+Vile

This is where I found the incorrect information in the first place, and is the reason I had to come on here to ask, because it doesn't sound right. The section labeled "How to unlock Clavicus Vile's Quest" for this wiki about Oblivion Remastered specifically states, "You must be at least level 10 to start this quest."

I shouldn't have to defend that I'm not lazy, but whatever.

Use this link https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Clavicus_Vile
Fextralife is not good for answers in my opinion. UESP says you need to be level 20 to do this quest. UESP is the best source of information on this game.

Thank you, this is all I needed to hear, I didn't know that the fextralife wasn't reliable until now. I really appreciate you letting me know. I'll use UESP from now on :)

[NightOwl7]

Originally posted by relax with my horns:

Originally posted by NightOwl7:

Use this link https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Clavicus_Vile
Fextralife is not good for answers in my opinion. UESP says you need to be level 20 to do this quest. UESP is the best source of information on this game.

Thank you, this is all I needed to hear, I didn't know that the fextralife wasn't reliable until now. I really appreciate you letting me know. I'll use UESP from now on :)

You are very welcome. Hope you like the quest.

[milehigh026]

Originally posted by relax with my horns:

Originally posted by milehigh026:

There's very little about this game that I don't know. I played the original for 1000s of hours so I don't mind sharing some tips and stuff with new players.

But at some point people need to figure things out on their own. There's tons of resources available to look up anything that you want to know about the game. There's the wiki page, and literally 100s of different walk through sites. Asking a question on the forums that you could have looked up yourself in 2.2 seconds is really just being lazy. You can't expect someone else to be your personal Google.

For the record, I did look it up before posting. The wiki I found said the required level was 10, which I had already surpassed, so I was confused when the quest wouldn’t start. That’s why I came to the forum- to get clarification from people who might know more. I wasn’t trying to "use anyone as my personal Google," I was just trying to figure out why I was getting wrong info from the wiki.

I get that this kind of question might be obvious to some of you, especially if you've played thousands of hours and know where to find accurate info, but not everyone is coming from the same place or using the same resources. Dismissing people or calling them lazy when they’re actively trying to solve a problem doesn’t make people want to ask questions, and makes the forum hostile and gatekeepy. Maybe in the future people can be a little more patient and a little less eager to assume the worst.

My response may have come off as hostile, but it wasn't solely meant for you. It's more of a blanket statement to everyone who can't be bothered to look up information on their own. It's great that you at least tried to look for the answer before coming to the forums!!

My real gripe is with the people who play the game for 2 minutes and then want to ask how do you do this? How do you do that? Where's this location at? Or the people who are so quick to call everything bugged or broken, when it really isn't.