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I dunno I find it a satisfying game to play but I am not the type of person to chase modernity. Literally the same game 19 years later? I mean, that's pretty much the reason I bought it. Its the old game with some nicer graphics. If someone went and made Might and Magic 7 with nicer graphics and it was the "same game" I would buy that too, same with Descent and the like. I mean, it being the same game but nicer looking was the draw. I don't think its low standards at all. Outdated? I think its regressive to look at things that way. If a game was super fun once upon a time it doesn't magically become unfun just because it's 20 years later, unless you're just the type who can only have fun chasing the new thing. But I have just as much fun today playing Metroid or Silver Surfer or Jurassic Park for the NES as I did then, why would I not have fun, its the same game as when I had fun with it before? Why would the year being 2025 change that? I don't stop enjoying Grease because its old, I don't stop enjoying Roy Orbison because its old... so why would I stop enjoying Oblivion?
And add more things to the world, more systems, some randomness, random encounters, factions fighting each other ... some things gameplay wise so it's not just walking back and forth between loading tomes.
New quests that are somehow different from this run-of-the-mill uninspired stupid nothing.
It's crazy how AI is booming so much but games are stuck at 20 or 10 years ago and hardly every anything innovating is happening. Where are there no actually enemies in games that feel like actual AI?
Haven't played it for long enough that it feels fresh...that's all it needs...and ffs I'm glad Beth didn't try and "improve" it
You have low AF standards, you just proved it with your comment. You played games all your life, and still you are satisfied with what was cool 20 years ago. It was cool back then because we never played something like it b4, or at least not that often, and it was somewhat fresh. You could overlook the clunky and trashy combat system because it was like an interesting world somehow it was fun to play, not anymore for me. Played way to many open world games. At least other modern games add something and have fun combat systems and other mechanics and things that add to the gameplay loop that makes them fun (at times).
It has nothing to do with chasing modernity. It has something to do to with expecting something ELSE, something more modern and simply BETTER, it's not about chasing something just because it's new, It's about almost 20 years of new systems that were invented and are more modern and just play better. For example, like holding a button down to then press other buttons, quick fire different skills. Like, they did not even do something as basic as that.
Meanwhile, hundreds of different games have been done that do things better, they do not even need to be "innovative" they just need to copy things from other games that just work. This is such a LAZY AF remaster, it's just a modern paint job on an old game. And do not get me wrong, I like Unreal Engine and I like good graphics, I am a sucker for good graphics, but this is NOT ENOUGH to make the actual game playable and enjoyable as a 2025 game! And again, the graphics are not even that good. Almost every other game done in UE5 looks better. #1 on that list is for sure Expedition 33. But
No I think I explained myself rather well but instead of taking that explanation for what it was, you just read into it what you "want" me to have said. I think your big problem here is you don't actually pay attention and you just live in a bubble where nothing said to you is what was actually said, but just what you want to believe.
I don't think this is a clunky combat system. You think it is, I do not. That doesn't mean I have low standards. Am I supposed to just stop watching classic films too because some numbnut on Steam thinks liking it = low standards? What about Super Mario World? What about stop listening to Long After Dark? I don't think you know what it means to have low standards. Your issue is you think old = bad. You think new = good. I don't. If playing it was fun then it was fun. Why would it be less fun now? Because something else "different" exists and we should all like that else we have low standards? Who says you can't like both for the different fun things they are?
Those games were fun back then for the same reasons Creatures of the Night was a good album in the 80s, because the things it was made of were fun to do. Just because something else fun came along after that doesn't make those less fun. Why would it? What a weird world you must live in where you abandon songs you used to like or TV shows you used to like or games you used to like because they are old.
Your poor perspective is not someone else's low standards champ.
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, lots of good games came out, lots of high rated games that had good story, good gameplay or even both combined.
Speaking of story and crap writing. The beginning is already completely laughable trash. Somehow they are going through jail cells to some secret exit. There is a door closed, and they can not go through, even though they build it, or they know about this way out. Then some assassin comes and kills him though some secret wall door whatever. And after he gets killed, his protector gives you the key to a door behind this secret door that was just opened in what they thought was a "dead end" 5 seconds ago. ROFL. This is so comically bad, it's so pathetic, it is like some 13-year-old ♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrote this trash. As I "kid" I did not notice these things, or did not care, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥'s funny AF how trashy this game already starts.
So it's not like the story or the writing is so compelling and great that it drives the game so good that you can overlook the combat, the writing is as trash as the gameplay.
It's not that I am looking to hate this game, I actually installed it hoping that I will like any enjoy it, but sorry I have some standards and given that I played the original when it came out I have my obvious years of gaming behind me that raised those standards. Apparently you people have none and like to replay 19 year old trash games. Good for you, I am jealous actually, I want to like it, but I can't. Same for STALKER 2. Stalker 1 was one of my all-time fav games and I even played all the others that came after, I can not get to like 2.
The air is out, these innovative boring remakes and "we make the same game again" type of things annoy the ♥♥♥♥ out of me.
It's funny the inventor of Gothic, Piranha Bytes did that and went bankrupt. They literally for 20 years made the same game again and again and again. Risen 1-3, ELEX 1-2. I actually played and liked Risen 1-3 but when ELEX came the air was so out I could not get myself to finish it. Same clunky ♥♥♥♥♥♥ fighting system AGAIN, the thing that got most critique for all of their games, and they never improved it, they just added guns and gave it another paintjob. After 20 years it was not working anymore and they RIGHTFULLY SO went bankrupt. Meanwhile, the others making a killing doing the same ♥♥♥♥ for some reason. Well Assassin's Creed and things at least have better fighting systems and then went into Witcher 3 copycats, so there was that that kept them alive. But the air is out of AC for a long time as well.
If Bethshitsda would not also make Dooms they would also deserve to go bankrupt after Starfield, but for some reason people love it when they do not innovate and do the same game in worse over again. I deleted that ♥♥♥♥ from my SSD so fast, could not make myself play this loading sym trash. Watched enough reviews and videos mocking to know how trashy this game is. Still, the low standard fanbase is all over it. Actually, I also could not make myself play Fallout 4 as well. Fallout 3 and New Vegas were the last games I enjoyed from them, I believe.
Games dont have to innovate to be fun. In fact, 99% of the time they do "innovate" its just tedious and obnoxious mechanics, that tend to make the game more of a chore, than fun.
No you want to convince yourself (and me and others) that your standards are not low when it's a fact that they are. You are satisfied with a 19 year old trash game that has literally nothing to offer but super clunky ♥♥♥♥♥♥ combat that is the same as it was 19 years ago. This is low standards. The world has changed, there are better games out there who have actual good gameplay, good graphics and good story combined. This is not it.
Just admit your standards at low, and it's fine, good for you, you can enjoy trash combat systems and like fade to black loading screens every 5 meters, it's great, enjoy it! Just do not also pretend your standards and not low. They ARE!
I don't think you understand how understanding others works. I don't have to convince myself of anything. I was replying to your statement, advising you on how I felt about an old game in light of new stuff. I get that you're just arguing to argue and yeah yeah we're all taking the bait but at some point even you can't avoid how silly this looks. You want to freely ignore what others tell you why they like what they like, insisting that your reasons you give them are the reasons they like or dislike stuff. Now, troll all you want, it's your life, but I don't have low standards just because I like some simpler things anymore than liking complex things means one has high standards. I don't have low standards when when listening to Mike Campbell and then high standards when listening to John Petrucci or whatever. That isn't how standards, or tastes works.