Adept is hard

[Fish]

Idk wtf everyone is talking about. Maybe my game is bugged or something but I'm seeing everyone saying adept is easy. I'm literally struggling to kill anyone on adept. It's actually insane. Like I'll watch people play and like two shot Daedra in the first oblivion gate, when I go they take like 30 hits and I have the same gear and better stats. Idk how this is the case.

[Goranius]

I really don't know how you doing this. I was playing mage on expert, because expert for mages, but then i turned difficulty to adept and my mage started to do decent damage even with blades. So please share your wisdom - how to struggle to kill anyone on adept?

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Are you absolutely sure that you are on adept?

[Fish]

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

Are you absolutely sure that you are on adept?

100% I'm using Brusef's sword and set and am struggling to kill the first oblivion gate daedra.

[Deimos Tel`Arin]

adept is the middle difficulty, with x1 damage dealt and x1 damage received right?

OP (Sonic) what is your character's level and combat stats ? (blade skill, armor skill)

[Jaevwyn]

Adept is totally okay and reasonable for those of you who arent creating powerful spells or enchants with stacking weaknesses.
For those of us who are doing this, Expert and Master are a requirement for things to not die instantly to most of the spells we have that are a little more cookie cutter than a standard damage spell.

Both approaches are fine and valid

[iaregamertom]

Yes, you have found the exception to the rule, Kvatch gate is tough either at low or high level, and ESPECIALLY retake kvatch which is the hardest mission in the game (imo) at high levels due to level scaling, NPCs dying quickly and then single handedly having to fight multiple spiders and daedroth at once
Go out in the non main quest world and everything is a cake walk, some of the main quest and other scripted enemies will still be tough on adept but outside of this, its very easy

[twitch|spider0666]

Originally posted by iaregamertom:

Yes, you have found the exception to the rule, Kvatch gate is tough either at low or high level, and ESPECIALLY retake kvatch which is the hardest mission in the game (imo) at high levels due to level scaling, NPCs dying quickly and then single handedly having to fight multiple spiders and daedroth at once
Go out in the non main quest world and everything is a cake walk, some of the main quest and other scripted enemies will still be tough on adept but outside of this, its very easy

Agree. Took me really long time to figure it out how to do it on the first playthrough on master dificulty.
As you can watch here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2449681662
I find out several tricks how to tackle waves of mobs there. Like save spots and mobs pulling to 1vs1 or 1vs2.

[WeirdWizardDave]

Is your weapon broken? Are you using a weapon with a very low corresponding skill? Are you sure the difficulty is in fact set to Adept. It can still be challenging if you're playing a highly optimised character.

[PocketYoda]

knock it back to apprentice its better, less grind after lv 13+

[Barry White Black Knight]

this my friend, is because at higher levels, like lvl20+, the enemy scaling gets higher so the enemies will be harder to kill and do more damage to you. You can offset these things with heavy armor, hell light armor, enchantments like shield/reflect damage or resist magic/reflect spell, fortify spells like endurance and health, fatigue if you find yourself running out a lot. there are also spells that can help disable the enemies like absorb fatigue 100, paralyse 1-3 seconds (cheap cost), make them more vulnerable to magic like weaknesss to magic/specific element with a spell. You can one shot enemies on master difficulty with these effects. Have a good enchanted weapon doing at least 25 pts of damage, there are uniques like that and you can enchant them yourself too

If your weapon skill is lacking, you can also fortify that briefly at low restoration up to 100 for some extra dmg, though the main dmg is going to come from enchantments and spells, poison if you use it

[Solus]

You have a bad character skills then. Level up you're combat skills and enchant/sigil some armour and it's way too easy. Could even summon something to help out.

[psychotron666]

What level are you?

Adept is ridiculously easy until about level 12 when the oblivion level scaling gets the worst

[Barry White Black Knight]

Originally posted by iaregamertom:

Yes, you have found the exception to the rule, Kvatch gate is tough either at low or high level, and ESPECIALLY retake kvatch which is the hardest mission in the game (imo) at high levels due to level scaling, NPCs dying quickly and then single handedly having to fight multiple spiders and daedroth at once
Go out in the non main quest world and everything is a cake walk, some of the main quest and other scripted enemies will still be tough on adept but outside of this, its very easy

if that is the hardest mission in the game, we already won the game doing that at lvl30 then, I will say the paralyse on the little spider daedras were quite oppressive, and lots of xivilais that do quite a chunk on hit. A good shock spell sorts them right out though

[drakeloreroar]

Keep in mind your racial stats and passives as well.
High Elves are extremely weak to magic, and Vampires are weak to fire, if you're any of these bare in mind these weaknesses, but this also applies to NPCs as well.
Likewise Daedra for the most part are resistant to fire so using fire spells does practically nothing.
Additionally you need to keep in mind your starting skills and stats, if you're using a longsword, claymore, or blunt weapon you will want higher Strength. Daggers, Bows, and Shortswords want Agility. If you play to your race's strength early on it becomes much easier.

And be wary of how you level up. Early on you will want to focus only on your preferred method of fighting otherwise when the enemy starts scaling up you will be at a massive disadvantage.

[PostalGibbon]

What level you are because level scaling enemies are real hitpoint sponges even on adept after level 10 and onward.

I did Kvatch battle at level 18 conjuration mage and it was pure nightmare grind even at adept dif especially the last courtyard. The Oblivion gate at start was easy because of big area and scattered enemies.

In the last courtyard there were 5 storm atronachs, something like 10 clanfear, 3 spider daedra and their little paralyze ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ summons, 3 daedroth and and one dremora and no room to move anywhere. Your summons die instantly and soldiers die instantly and you get stuck on the gate lever area.

Crowning moment was after the battle i got instantly thrown to jail by first patrol on the road because apparently my summon friendly fire killed one of the soldier during the utter chaos that is battle of Kvatch at high level.

I shudder to think doing same as level 18 melee build just no.