The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered

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type-1 Apr 25 @ 7:09am
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Problem with wokeness
In the original game you picked between male or female. Depending on your choice it would impact your stats. Male got +10 points to strength, female got +10 points to wisdom or something along those lines for example.

In the remaster you now don't pick male or female it is now a choice between body type 1 or body type 2. This choice does not affect your stats so either body type you pick stats don't change.

However what they did was when you pick a race each race has two backgrounds and these replace the original stat changes that came from the male and female choice. However not only does the background impact your stats like the male and female choice did in the first game it also sets your characters voice to use either the male and female voice. So effectively what they did was just disguise the male/female choice by relabeling it as character background choice instead.

What this means is that you can unwittingly choose a background that gives you the stat adjustment and voice of a women, but then pick the body type for a man and end up accidentally assigning yourself a female identity even though you thought you were picking the male character option.

Great bug to add just so that you can avoid having male and female in your character creator. Let's see how long this takes to patch out. Could have been avoided if they just left the code as is from the OG but then about five people on twitter would try boycott the game.
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SkySymphony Apr 25 @ 7:12am 
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Won't read this crap. There is nothing wrong in being a progressive person
Ken10 Apr 25 @ 7:13am 
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Tldr; wah wah wah pleeeeaasseeeeeee cater to me waahhhhhhhhhhh me want things me way, no other way cause me way best way wahhhhhhhh
Originally posted by SkySymphony:
Won't read this crap. There is nothing wrong in being a progressive person
Someone get this guy a special sticker. He's a special, Güd Person (tm).
They actually removed gender based stats. It's based on a selected origin that you pick instead now. Every race gets two origin options to pick from that describe a region that they came from in their homeland. This determines the stats that would of been gender based.

Also background does not effect your character's voice lol.
Last edited by Fluffy Monster Thing; Apr 25 @ 7:18am
Valor! Apr 25 @ 7:17am 
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76561198009276343 (Banned) Apr 25 @ 7:18am 
I actually bothered to read your post.
I made a female skooma rug, but picked Anequina as the origin. Her voice is deep, and gruff, but still obviously feminine in pitch. Maybe you're onto something, but I dunno.
PocketYoda Apr 25 @ 7:19am 
I'll probably cop flak for this but i prefer the new version better, for game mechanics this is better and you are not pigeon holed into a gender anymore right from the start.. You can player either..

Not woke to me just better game design.
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
I'll probably cop flak for this but i prefer the new version better, for game mechanics this is better and you are not pigeon holed into a gender anymore right from the start.. You can player either..

Not woke to me just better game design.
You are allowed your opinions and I genuinely hope you enjoy. I do not share them, but eh...
Didn't play this game much and even then it was maybe 15-20 years ago, didn't know about this difference in stats between genders.

This is even more stupid than I thought but it won't prevent me from enjoying the game.

Seems like it wasn't perfect in the original either, +10 strength for men ok, makes sense, +10 wisdom for women doesn't make any sense though, if anything it should have been -10 in wisdom, then choosing to play as a woman would have been a disadvantage but in the long run it doesn't really matter.

Edit : there's not even wisdom as a stat, you meant intelligence maybe ?
But yeah wouldn't make any sense either, maybe a bonus in personality to reflect their tendancy to lie or manipulate people would have been more accurate.
Last edited by Super Loutre; Apr 25 @ 7:29am
Originally posted by Megabyte RSSD:
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
I'll probably cop flak for this but i prefer the new version better, for game mechanics this is better and you are not pigeon holed into a gender anymore right from the start.. You can player either..

Not woke to me just better game design.
You are allowed your opinions and I genuinely hope you enjoy. I do not share them, but eh...
Each to their own.. There have been a lot of fixes in this version in my opinion, i honestly don't believe that change was to promote ideologies just better game design.
Your tears are giving us power to become more woke.
i dont get it that so many people are mad about this, its hilarious xD
type-1 Apr 25 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by SkySymphony:
Won't read this crap. There is nothing wrong in being a progressive person

Originally posted by Ken10:
Tldr; wah wah wah pleeeeaasseeeeeee cater to me waahhhhhhhhhhh me want things me way, no other way cause me way best way wahhhhhhhh

Cope and seethe you read every word of it you just can't defend such a silly bug being added to the game for such a silly reason but you still couldn't leave without trying so you're going to pretend you didn't read it and aren't upset by it. 😂
KRINGO Apr 25 @ 7:28am 
triggered ez :balatro_egg:
Emu Apr 25 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Valor!:
blocked
God, I love blocking. I can immediately stop communicating with someone who tries to talk sense into me. Nobody is going to come between me and my bottom surgery!
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