It's not a new game. Where's the discount for the existing owners?

[gutthans]

Even Microsoft allows 'free' or reduced upgrades when they redo Windows (again). Why don't we Not Buy this until Bethesda offers an 'Upgrade Price' for owners of their original?

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the original oblivion can be had for literally a dollar on sale, why would that entitle you to a discount?

[gutthans]

It isn't relevant what the original can be had for, now, actually. Why should anyone be expected to repurchase a game they already own? I'm reasonably sure there are several ways to verify that you didn't try to 'cheat' with a $1 purchase, if they wanted to do so.
If the 'community' buys this at retail, they will continue to do these types of 'rip-offs' and will neglect to consider second tier pricing for followers.

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it's very relevant, having the old game doesn't entitle you to it

[Videogame Jukebox]

"i am entitled and want things my way."

[Mightylink]

Lets face it, most Steam users got Oblivion for $5 on a Steam sale... ain't no way Bethesda is giving them a discount.

[wererabbit]

This is Todd Howard's game.

You're just lucky enough to buy it right now for $50.
Or, if you want to spend more, he'll allow you to spend $60.

If you don't own every version of Skyrim ever made for every platform, you're doing it wrong.

[gutthans]

Having the old game SHOULD, that's my position. You can disagree, but I think it's a valid criticism of the manner in which they merchandise. Businesses charge whatever the market will bear. If we don't bear it, the price comes down. If enough people make enough noise about retooling old games to get more retail, perhaps the idea will gain traction.

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you can't have a position as you have nothing to stand on

you bought the license to a game, you don't own it, and having a license to it doesn't entitle you to all future releases

if they wanted to they could revoke the license and you won't be able to do anything about it

[gutthans]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Videogame Jukebox:

"i am entitled and want things my way."

Pretty much an attribution for everyone on the planet, at some time.

[EricHVela]

Then wait for the inevitable sale.

What do they do for those who don't have TES4 on Steam? Do they buy it at $5 and get the remake at a discount?

What if they don't have TES4 at all? Do they also buy it at $5 and get the remake at a discount despite not buying the original previously?

It's a cash grab. Accept it because it's not going to change. You do have options. You don't have to buy it right now. If you're going all FoMO, that's to Bethsoft's benefit (as they seem to rely on that) and not yours.

[wererabbit]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von space:

you can't have a position as you have nothing to stand on

you bought the license to a game, you don't own it, and having a license to it doesn't entitle you to all future releases

if they wanted to they could revoke the license and you won't be able to do anything about it

GOG entered the chat

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von wererabbit:

GOG entered the chat

you don't own it on gog, read the eula

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[gutthans]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von wererabbit:

This is Todd Howard's game.

You're just lucky enough to buy it right now for $50.
Or, if you want to spend more, he'll allow you to spend $60.

If you don't own every version of Skyrim ever made for every platform, you're doing it wrong.

And this is gutthan's money. Right now he'll get $0 for it. Maybe if HE's lucky, I'll allow him to have $10 or $20 for it!

It's not at all about being entitled or thinking I deserve it or whatever. It's business. It's a point of view about how we get marketed and don't question it. I DON'T have to game, but I DO have to eat.

[radblue]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von gutthans:

Having the old game SHOULD, that's my position. You can disagree, but I think it's a valid criticism of the manner in which they merchandise. Businesses charge whatever the market will bear. If we don't bear it, the price comes down. If enough people make enough noise about retooling old games to get more retail, perhaps the idea will gain traction.

I agree with you but.... you should have to supply them with your original cd's including the expansion cd's.

...looks on dusty shelf.. yep still got mine :)

[gutthans]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von radblue:

I agree with you but.... you should have to supply them with your original cd's including the expansion cd's.

...looks on dusty shelf.. yep still got mine :)

Absolutely no problem with that. I still have my 'Battle of Britain', 'Pool of Radiance' and 'Krynn' discs (for some insane never dust reason).