Intrusive Anti-cheat in a single player offline game?

[Powercrank]

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2623190_eula_0

2) "ZENIMAX HAS IMPLEMENTED TOOLS AND SOFTWARE DESIGNED TO DETECT AND PREVENT CHEATING AND FRAUD (“ANTI-CHEAT TOOLS”); THESE TECHNOLOGIES MAY SCAN ANY COMPUTER OR DEVICE FROM WHICH YOU DOWNLOAD OR PLAY THE GAME TO DETECT OR IDENTIFY ANY PROGRAMS OR PROCESSES DESIGNED TO “CHEAT,” GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE IN THE GAME OR OTHERWISE CIRCUMVENT ANY SECURITY, ANTI-CHEAT OR FRAUD DETECTION PROCESSES, OR TOOLS WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED (“CHEAT PROGRAMS”). BY USING OR DOWNLOADING THE GAME OR ACCEPTING THIS AGREEMENT, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND EXPRESSLY AGREE TO THE ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER OR DEVICE BY THESE ANTI-CHEAT TOOLS TO IDENTIFY OR DETECT CHEAT PROGRAMS."

3) B. in whole or in part, modify, adapt, translate, reverse engineer, attempt to derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, or create derivative works based on the Game; provided, however, that you may make one (1) copy of the Game Client and the manuals that accompany it for archival purposes only and you may install the relevant Game Client on one or more computers, consoles, or devices owned by you or under your legitimate control

D. use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods, or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game

G. modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of the Game and/or Game Client in any way not expressly authorized by ZeniMax;

R. The Game is licensed to you as a single product. Its component parts may not be separated for use on more than one computer or device. The Game is licensed, not sold.

WTF is the point of this?

[Rumi]

might be a boilerplate eula for all their games, some of which are indeed multiplayer

[Settings]

Originally posted by Rumi:

might be a boilerplate eula for all their games, some of which are indeed multiplayer

It is

[Fang]

There is no anti-cheat in this game. It even has cheat console commands built-in.

[★REM★]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2623190_eula_0

2) "ZENIMAX HAS IMPLEMENTED TOOLS AND SOFTWARE DESIGNED TO DETECT AND PREVENT CHEATING AND FRAUD (“ANTI-CHEAT TOOLS”); THESE TECHNOLOGIES MAY SCAN ANY COMPUTER OR DEVICE FROM WHICH YOU DOWNLOAD OR PLAY THE GAME TO DETECT OR IDENTIFY ANY PROGRAMS OR PROCESSES DESIGNED TO “CHEAT,” GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE IN THE GAME OR OTHERWISE CIRCUMVENT ANY SECURITY, ANTI-CHEAT OR FRAUD DETECTION PROCESSES, OR TOOLS WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED (“CHEAT PROGRAMS”). BY USING OR DOWNLOADING THE GAME OR ACCEPTING THIS AGREEMENT, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND EXPRESSLY AGREE TO THE ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER OR DEVICE BY THESE ANTI-CHEAT TOOLS TO IDENTIFY OR DETECT CHEAT PROGRAMS."

3) B. in whole or in part, modify, adapt, translate, reverse engineer, attempt to derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, or create derivative works based on the Game; provided, however, that you may make one (1) copy of the Game Client and the manuals that accompany it for archival purposes only and you may install the relevant Game Client on one or more computers, consoles, or devices owned by you or under your legitimate control

D. use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods, or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game

G. modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of the Game and/or Game Client in any way not expressly authorized by ZeniMax;

R. The Game is licensed to you as a single product. Its component parts may not be separated for use on more than one computer or device. The Game is licensed, not sold.

WTF is the point of this?

Let's go with the conspiration theories.. are you 'merican?

This is the standard TOS/EULA of Bethesda, they don't tailor it for every game they release. It is the same for Skyrim, Starfield or Young Blood. It is the same also for Oblivion.

Do you really think they tailor a new EULA for every game?

[Powercrank]

Originally posted by Rumi:

might be a boilerplate eula for all their games, some of which are indeed multiplayer

well that's a relief.
It's pretty funny and telling that they don't even read their own EULA.

[Geralt]

Originally posted by ★REM★:

Let's go with the conspiration theories.. are you 'merican?

This is the standard TOS/EULA of Bethesda, they don't tailor it for every game they release. It is the same for Skyrim, Starfield or Young Blood. It is the same also for Oblivion.

Do you really think they tailor a new EULA for every game?

Quoting the entire OP on the first page like he's going to be confused who you're talking to.

[Mugiwara]

Originally posted by Fang:

There is no anti-cheat in this game. It even has cheat console commands built-in.

Thanks for confirming. This was a major sticking point for me. I had suspected as much but as I'm currently downloading, I couldn't confirm for myself as of yet.

[Rumi]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

Originally posted by Rumi:

might be a boilerplate eula for all their games, some of which are indeed multiplayer

well that's a relief.
It's pretty funny and telling that they don't even read their own EULA.

they don't really need to. if it covers all the bases then they can use it even if parts don't apply to the individual product.

[A. Silvermane]

You can use console commands to turn yourself into a god, you can spawn just about any item in the game, you can teleport to anywhere on the map you know the command for, you can even spawn in a unicorn to ride.

Anti-cheat? What Anti-cheat?

B-but it disables achievements

Baka already released a fix for that

[Demigod Chewtoy]

It also scours your browsing history, even Incognito.

Meanwhile, back in the real world.....

[Powercrank]

crazy that you can't even ask a simple question about what is objectively written in the EULA without being accused of some insane strawman nonsense. The internet is truly a sh*thole.

[Edelgris]

Originally posted by ★REM★:

This is the standard TOS/EULA of Bethesda, they don't tailor it for every game they release. It is the same for Skyrim, Starfield or Young Blood. It is the same also for Oblivion.

Do you really think they tailor a new EULA for every game?

I love the notion that gamers are supposed to read and understand the EULA for every game they buy, but game companies don't even bother to write one for every game they make. That is some good old ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[A. Silvermane]

Originally posted by Demigod Chewtoy:

It also scours your browsing history, even Incognito.

https://youtu.be/qMPU9xmRCf0?si=oxmHACgCwXODZswY
I feel sorry for the guy whose job it is to look up my browser history

[Powercrank]

Originally posted by ★REM★:

Originally posted by Powercrank:

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2623190_eula_0

2) "ZENIMAX HAS IMPLEMENTED TOOLS AND SOFTWARE DESIGNED TO DETECT AND PREVENT CHEATING AND FRAUD (“ANTI-CHEAT TOOLS”); THESE TECHNOLOGIES MAY SCAN ANY COMPUTER OR DEVICE FROM WHICH YOU DOWNLOAD OR PLAY THE GAME TO DETECT OR IDENTIFY ANY PROGRAMS OR PROCESSES DESIGNED TO “CHEAT,” GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE IN THE GAME OR OTHERWISE CIRCUMVENT ANY SECURITY, ANTI-CHEAT OR FRAUD DETECTION PROCESSES, OR TOOLS WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED (“CHEAT PROGRAMS”). BY USING OR DOWNLOADING THE GAME OR ACCEPTING THIS AGREEMENT, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND EXPRESSLY AGREE TO THE ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER OR DEVICE BY THESE ANTI-CHEAT TOOLS TO IDENTIFY OR DETECT CHEAT PROGRAMS."

3) B. in whole or in part, modify, adapt, translate, reverse engineer, attempt to derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, or create derivative works based on the Game; provided, however, that you may make one (1) copy of the Game Client and the manuals that accompany it for archival purposes only and you may install the relevant Game Client on one or more computers, consoles, or devices owned by you or under your legitimate control

D. use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods, or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game

G. modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of the Game and/or Game Client in any way not expressly authorized by ZeniMax;

R. The Game is licensed to you as a single product. Its component parts may not be separated for use on more than one computer or device. The Game is licensed, not sold.

WTF is the point of this?

Let's go with the conspiration theories.. are you 'merican?

This is the standard TOS/EULA of Bethesda, they don't tailor it for every game they release. It is the same for Skyrim, Starfield or Young Blood. It is the same also for Oblivion.

Do you really think they tailor a new EULA for every game?

Do you really think massive AAA companies shouldn't at least remove the parts of the EULA that don't apply to whatever game they're releasing? Do you think its OK for them to leave obviously confusing and misleading things in their EULA's just because they're cheap and lazy?

Sorry for questioning your billion dollar company. I'm sure they'll be grateful that you're defending them on the steam forums.

[Rumi]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

Originally posted by ★REM★:

Let's go with the conspiration theories.. are you 'merican?

This is the standard TOS/EULA of Bethesda, they don't tailor it for every game they release. It is the same for Skyrim, Starfield or Young Blood. It is the same also for Oblivion.

Do you really think they tailor a new EULA for every game?

Do you really think massive AAA companies shouldn't at least remove the parts of the EULA that don't apply to whatever game they're releasing? Do you think its OK for them to leave obviously confusing and misleading things in their EULA's just because they're cheap and lazy?

Sorry for questioning your billion dollar company. I'm sure they'll be grateful that you're defending them on the steam forums.

yes. lawyers have better things to do, like spend the obscene amounts of money they make. if it doesn't have consequences then it doesn't matter.