We need 100% full controller support ASAP, please! (TY)

[Minty Seals]

Bethesda games are best played with gamepad/controller.

As it stands currently the controller use is rock solid but it's missing a very crucial thing: Variable movement speed.

When exploring interior world spaces it's jarring to have all of two whole speeds to your movement. You either walk very slowly, or run at max. (not counting the new sprinting)
I don't know if Xbox port currently has this as an issue but I would very much like parity with them if they do not where I can comfortably control the speed of my movement better instead of having the controller joystick essentially emulating a keyboards movements.

To reiterate: Playing on MnK for bethesda games is serviceable but movement speed options being either slowest walk or fastest run just takes some of the immersion out of exploring. Controller makes the game more immersive and relaxing to play. I assume this remaster used the pc version as it's base due to the lack of full controller support which was always a problem with that version. I do not believe it would take them a considerable amount of resources to fix this problem and I would appreciate it if we could get some spotlight on this issue so the devs can address this.

Game is great, and there are so many new things to see and explore... only on the xbox port I really enjoyed exploring a lot more due to fluidity in movement not found in the pc base version. I appreciate anyone taking the time to read this, please support if you also believe this to be an issue!

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by Shaken_Widow:

it's three speeds, and yes it's not the same as the original where you could snail crawl and i do want that back.

Ok so it's a semantic thing causing the confusion then? I was gonna say... no way is this not on people's mind lol.

[Shaken_Widow]

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:

Originally posted by Shaken_Widow:

it's three speeds, and yes it's not the same as the original where you could snail crawl and i do want that back.

Ok so it's a semantic thing causing the confusion then? I was gonna say... no way is this not on people's mind lol.

yeah legit was just confused because people are incapable of actually articulating what they mean on discussions correctly.

YOU GUYS MEAN YOU ONLY HAVE THREE SPEEDS, NOT JUST WALK AND RUN.

but i get it, the transition from walk to JOG is jarring.

i too am on their side lmao, i want the original speed based on analog threshold back.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by Shaken_Widow:

i too am on their side lmao, i want the original speed based on analog threshold back.

Yep, it's really interfering with my thief playthrough. I can't sneak because my speed is high, do no matter how slightly tilted the analog stick is, I am lunging at my targets super fast.

[Minty Seals]

Originally posted by Shaken_Widow:

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:

I am kinda shocked to see people denying this problems existence. How many different paces can you walk (so no sprint) with a controller? I only have 2 paces. Ever so slight tilt is half speed and full tilt is full speed.

tbf i was confused, the way the comments and even the OPs post reads like they're talking about only two speeds, walk then run and for me that looked like they were saying they were only able to walk, and SPRINT.

wait, rereading what op said i now see what you guys are saying.

i was confused because you guys keep saying "two speeds" and i thought you were saying you could only walk and sprint.

stop saying only two speeds you're confusing people lmao.

it's three speeds, and yes it's not the same as the original where you could snail crawl and i do want that back.

You don't sprint with analogue movement. You press it in (the joystick) as a button to do this. It's an extra step required to do this hence no one is saying three speeds.
It's the immersion of having full control that's sorely lacking.

[SCIM]

The way it seems to work is that I can move at 1% to 90% speed just fine with any amount of granularity I want, but after 90% it just jumps to 100%. I'm pretty sure this is an intentional deadzone thing as a lot of games do this. It is so if you have an old/cheap controller that can't quite hit 100% in a direction, as long as you can get close you'll move at max speed.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by Minty Seals:

You don't sprint with analogue movement. You press it in (the joystick) as a button to do this. It's an extra step required to do this hence no one is saying three speeds.
It's the immersion of having full control that's sorely lacking.

Ya it looks like at this point, everyone understands in this chain so far. I couldn't imagine someone saying "no I don't want this feature" because there are literally no downsides to it. But in my opinion, it's the biggest flaw of the game. I am considering buying a PS3 again so I can sneak lol.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by SCIM:

The way it seems to work is that I can move at 1% to 90% speed just fine with any amount of granularity I want, but after 90% it just jumps to 100%. I'm pretty sure this is an intentional deadzone thing as a lot of games do this. It is so if you have an old/cheap controller that can't quite hit 100% in a direction, as long as you can get close you'll move at max speed.

You have more than 2 paces you can walk with? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ intriguing... I am just baffled now... Do you know perhaps what you are doing differently?

[Zunnoab #931]

Was there a separate move slowly control in the original I don't remember? As far as I knew the game only cares that you are sneaking not how quickly you are literally moving while in sneak mode?

This is my first time ever playing with a controller, so perhaps I'll look into that mod. I figured I'd give a controller a try after religiously doing keyboard/mouse with Skyrim.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by Zunnoab #931:

Was there a separate move slowly control in the original I don't remember? As far as I knew the game only cares that you are sneaking now how quickly you are literally moving while in sneak mode?

This is my first time ever playing with a controller, so perhaps I'll look into that mod. I figured I'd give a controller a try after religiously doing keyboard/mouse with Skyrim.

It was dynamic pacing on Xbox 360 from what I recall. You can sneak super slowly like 1 step takes 10 seconds if you barely touch the analog stick.

[Minty Seals]

Originally posted by Zunnoab #931:

Was there a separate move slowly control in the original I don't remember? As far as I knew the game only cares that you are sneaking not how quickly you are literally moving while in sneak mode?

This is my first time ever playing with a controller, so perhaps I'll look into that mod. I figured I'd give a controller a try after religiously doing keyboard/mouse with Skyrim.

I can't confirm through code analysis but certainly felt like going faster vs going slower impacted whether you were detected on console. (oblivion on PC didn't really have proper game pad support back then iirc despite being a window live? game)

[Relias]

"Analog Controller Speed and remove Inertia - Gliding (UE4SS)" on nexus mods

works for me on keyboard and controller, you can edit the Globalspeedmod and more

[ThotsBContagious]

Originally posted by Minty Seals:

Bethesda games are best played with gamepad/controller.

Lol no. Go buy it on console then.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by ThotsBContagious:

Originally posted by Minty Seals:

Bethesda games are best played with gamepad/controller.

Lol no. Go buy it on console then.

The controller support does not have dynamic pacing on console any more. It's the same as PC in the remaster

[Minty Seals]

Originally posted by ThotsBContagious:

Originally posted by Minty Seals:

Bethesda games are best played with gamepad/controller.

Lol no. Go buy it on console then.

They are. Some games are better on keyboard and mouse. Some are better contextually on gamepad.

[Sgt. Flaw]

Oblivion, especially, is better with a controller....I've played P.C. with KB/M and then controller on a ps 3, it was SO much more intuitive...minus the menu system which is still a nightmare and better with a mouse.