$50 for this is insane. selling the DLC seperate with a few new cosmetics is insulting.

[Lord_Viper_1990]

i would have got this at $30-$40 all in. did not even occur to me that they would want $60 for a remaster. unbelievable cash grab. yet another disappointment. guess it gos on the "wait for sale" list, im so sick of this industry and its greed.

[md]

cool

[Snark]

Publicado originalmente por Lord_Viper_1990:

Publicado originalmente por Myztkl©-Kev:

if you're poor, just say that. "I" meaning me, myself can justify this because I know how long it takes to make 3d assets. These guys literally remade everything in the game except the quests and game logic. Who the ♥♥♥♥ are you to tell me how I can or can't feel lol, get the ♥♥♥♥ outa here with that.

I'll say what I want when I want. me being rich or poor has nothing to do with the value proposition of this game.

The game is undervalued. It can take several shifts to make 1 asset, if you were to pay 1 person 10 bucks an hour to work on the game, you'd hit the 50 dollar mark 5 hours into development. That's why these games cost millions of dollars to make (the true cost of the game).

If you were to get paid 50 bucks for a months work, you'd consider that cruel and unfair.
Yet you complain about how paying 50 dollars for something that took many years to make is a bad value proposition.

[StrangestEcho]

Publicado originalmente por Snark:

Publicado originalmente por Lord_Viper_1990:

I'll say what I want when I want. me being rich or poor has nothing to do with the value proposition of this game.

The game is undervalued. It can take several shifts to make 1 asset, if you were to pay 1 person 10 bucks an hour to work on the game, you'd hit the 50 dollar mark 5 hours into development. That's why these games cost millions of dollars to make (the true cost of the game).

If you were to get paid 50 bucks for a months work, you'd consider that cruel and unfair.
Yet you complain about how paying 50 dollars for something that took many years to make is a bad value proposition.

Yeah, Bethesda has never remade any of their games because the effort involved is too similar to making the next entry. It's unreasonable to expect a $30 price tag.

OP is just looking for an excuse to angry. He can play via gamepass instead or wait another year for the discount. It's already been 19 years, what's one more?

[Dodece]

I've little doubt that a few years ago it would've gone for that, but the global economy isn't what it once was, and development costs are subject to inflation. I'm a bit disappointed, but not really surprised. The important take away is this. This remaster isn't a cash grab.

Yes they are asking a tidy sum, but the game is nearly twenty. It isn't like they remastered a game from the past few years. This remaster probably required a substantial investment, and it is for a game that genuinely deserved/needed a remaster.

It isn't like they tweaked something. That was already built for tweaking. This game was very outdated, and the older something is. The more work is actually required. I'd have liked it to be cheaper, but I still purchased the game.

Number one reason is this version supports the controller. I'm not a big fan of playing with a keyboard and mouse, and so even though I own the original I couldn't get into that. Not that the graphics were helping matters much either.

I'll easily get a few hundred hours out of this. So the math still works out to be in my favor. If you want to get mad about something. Let it be the lack of real competition. Nobody in the market is trying to replicate the formula.

Everyone is so hell bent on live services. That a lot of those games are free to play. It's really frustrating as we need more games like this, and there is a strong demand and money here, but developers insist upon going after all of the money.

[fenrif]

Publicado originalmente por Dodece:

I've little doubt that a few years ago it would've gone for that, but the global economy isn't what it once was, and development costs are subject to inflation. I'm a bit disappointed, but not really surprised. The important take away is this. This remaster isn't a cash grab.

Yes they are asking a tidy sum, but the game is nearly twenty. It isn't like they remastered a game from the past few years. This remaster probably required a substantial investment, and it is for a game that genuinely deserved/needed a remaster.

It isn't like they tweaked something. That was already built for tweaking. This game was very outdated, and the older something is. The more work is actually required. I'd have liked it to be cheaper, but I still purchased the game.

Number one reason is this version supports the controller. I'm not a big fan of playing with a keyboard and mouse, and so even though I own the original I couldn't get into that. Not that the graphics were helping matters much either.

I'll easily get a few hundred hours out of this. So the math still works out to be in my favor. If you want to get mad about something. Let it be the lack of real competition. Nobody in the market is trying to replicate the formula.

Everyone is so hell bent on live services. That a lot of those games are free to play. It's really frustrating as we need more games like this, and there is a strong demand and money here, but developers insist upon going after all of the money.

"Inflation"
So they keep saying, but I dont buy it. Just another in the endlessly long list of excuses from lying developers as to why you get less and pay more.
"It's not a cash grab"
Pressing X to doubt. It's a modern Bethesda game.

[FromChaosTheory]

So don't buy it

[Boomie]

Publicado originalmente por Lord_Viper_1990:

Publicado originalmente por Viper:

why is it insane. Game was built from scratch. Its $50 not $60. You don't get something for nothing.

It's $60 for the full game, it was not built from scratch it's a remaster not a remake, no one said it should cost nothing. If you think a remaster is worth $60 I can't help you and you clearly have no respect for money or your self.

“It was not built from scratch.”

They literally remade the entire game on a brand new engine. That’s the definition of building from scratch.

[Rommel]

Publicado originalmente por Lord_Viper_1990:

i would have got this at $30-$40 all in. did not even occur to me that they would want $60 for a remaster. unbelievable cash grab. yet another disappointment. guess it gos on the "wait for sale" list, im so sick of this industry and its greed.

Translation.......Mom and Dad said no more money for games!,get a freaking job!

[Lord_Viper_1990]

Publicado originalmente por Rommel:

Publicado originalmente por Lord_Viper_1990:

i would have got this at $30-$40 all in. did not even occur to me that they would want $60 for a remaster. unbelievable cash grab. yet another disappointment. guess it gos on the "wait for sale" list, im so sick of this industry and its greed.

Translation.......Mom and Dad said no more money for games!,get a freaking job!

its people with jobs who usually have respect for money and know wasting it on over priced things is bad. kids spending mom and dads money dont understand how hard it is to come by.

[Lord_Viper_1990]

Publicado originalmente por FromChaosTheory:

So don't buy it

agreed

[Jayconius]

Think yourself lucky, this game is £37($50) in the US and £50($66) in the UK..

Think I'll wait for summer sale in 64 days..

[Dodece]

Publicado originalmente por fenrif:

Publicado originalmente por Dodece:

I've little doubt that a few years ago it would've gone for that, but the global economy isn't what it once was, and development costs are subject to inflation. I'm a bit disappointed, but not really surprised. The important take away is this. This remaster isn't a cash grab.

Yes they are asking a tidy sum, but the game is nearly twenty. It isn't like they remastered a game from the past few years. This remaster probably required a substantial investment, and it is for a game that genuinely deserved/needed a remaster.

It isn't like they tweaked something. That was already built for tweaking. This game was very outdated, and the older something is. The more work is actually required. I'd have liked it to be cheaper, but I still purchased the game.

Number one reason is this version supports the controller. I'm not a big fan of playing with a keyboard and mouse, and so even though I own the original I couldn't get into that. Not that the graphics were helping matters much either.

I'll easily get a few hundred hours out of this. So the math still works out to be in my favor. If you want to get mad about something. Let it be the lack of real competition. Nobody in the market is trying to replicate the formula.

Everyone is so hell bent on live services. That a lot of those games are free to play. It's really frustrating as we need more games like this, and there is a strong demand and money here, but developers insist upon going after all of the money.

"Inflation"
So they keep saying, but I dont buy it. Just another in the endlessly long list of excuses from lying developers as to why you get less and pay more.
"It's not a cash grab"
Pressing X to doubt. It's a modern Bethesda game.

The industry isn't firing off staff left, right, and center, because things are going incredibly well for publishers. When prices go up by ten to twenty percent. People need to get paid ten to twenty percent more. When publishers bet on the wrong thing it just means they've got to charge more for the right thing.

[Dull]

Played it for 30 minutes then uninstalled from the game pass. What an overrated and overhyped game.

[Avatar The No Air Bender]

I love when people don’t do their own research and just spout ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ so they have something to be mad about. Muh Gamers

[Videogame Jukebox]

I hope the 1990 in your name isnt your birth year cause this is just childish.