VRAM 0/0???

[SqueekyRatter]

Is the game not using VRAM or is this some kind of glitch, I am getting a a lot of stuttering.

[Proxy]

Originally posted by Ontrix_Kitsune:

I guess I need to repeat: Just because it works fine for you DOES NOT MEAN IT WORKS FINE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. There are many people in this thread with all sorts of different computer systems suffering from the stuttering/stalling/hitching problem from modern fast systems to slightly older systems. The common demonstrator seems to be the 0/0 VRAM bug.

People are focusing on this but correlation does not equal causation, the game API just isn't hooking the VRAM data properly and it means literally nothing. I've tested the game on multiple systems and this display never worked properly. If you have stuttering, there are likely culprits:

8GB or less VRAM card - without significant optimization via mods or ini editing outside the game, it will not run well even on LOW texture settings. UE5 eats 8GB cards for breakfast. There are fixes for this, and its pretty ridiculous we need to do things beyond the game settings menu considering the most popular cards on the market are all 8GB or less.

CPU/storage speed - the game loads a lot of distant assets as you move around, if you watch carefully you will see as they pop in you get big stutters. If you have a very fast SSD you may lessen these, I noticed a vast difference between a SATA SSD, a Gen 4 990 Pro and a Gen 5 9100 Pro. CPU speed plays a part in this too, if you're using a Ryzen 2600X or something, its going to be rough. Again, its possible to fix some of this with mods.

Texture compilation - the game will randomly go into full texture processing mode, just like the first time you launched it and watched the bar crawl across the screen. I believe this to be a bug and it should be fixed at some point. I have not sen any kind of fix for this behavior except to stand there and wait for it to be done.

Maybe later on they will release a patch that helps with the performance, considering how popular this is.

[SharkPlush]

Even SSD's are outdated technically! Just probably "good enough" though, and always will be imo. Now your entry level gamer mobo comes with a NVME slot, I do believe it's even faster than an SSD because that socket is to accommodate a faster bridge than SATA.

[SharkPlush]

Originally posted by Proxy:

Originally posted by Ontrix_Kitsune:

I guess I need to repeat: Just because it works fine for you DOES NOT MEAN IT WORKS FINE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. There are many people in this thread with all sorts of different computer systems suffering from the stuttering/stalling/hitching problem from modern fast systems to slightly older systems. The common demonstrator seems to be the 0/0 VRAM bug.

People are focusing on this but correlation does not equal causation, the game API just isn't hooking the VRAM data properly and it means literally nothing. I've tested the game on multiple systems and this display never worked properly. If you have stuttering, there are likely culprits:

8GB or less VRAM card - without significant optimization via mods or ini editing outside the game, it will not run well even on LOW texture settings. UE5 eats 8GB cards for breakfast. There are fixes for this, and its pretty ridiculous we need to do things beyond the game settings menu considering the most popular cards on the market are all 8GB or less.

CPU/storage speed - the game loads a lot of distant assets as you move around, if you watch carefully you will see as they pop in you get big stutters. If you have a very fast SSD you may lessen these, I noticed a vast difference between a SATA SSD, a Gen 4 990 Pro and a Gen 5 9100 Pro. CPU speed plays a part in this too, if you're using a Ryzen 2600X or something, its going to be rough. Again, its possible to fix some of this with mods.

Maybe later on they will release a patch that helps with the performance, considering how popular this is.

Buddy's 2060 super build here is going a great job with everything except Lumen on Medium.

I don't think you need it but if you're buying new components why would you get an SSD when you can get an NVME?? Do you really know whats up or are you just talking, because if I'm upgrading my storage memory I'm getting the one that uses PCIe...

Speed:
SATA SSDs: Typically achieve read/write speeds of around 600 MB/s due to limitations imposed by the SATA interface.
NVMe SSDs: Can reach speeds from 3,500 MB/s to 12,000 MB/s or more, depending on the generational standards (Gen 3, Gen 4, Gen 5)
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Latency:
NVMe drives have lower latency, resulting in quicker data access times. This makes them much more effective for tasks that require rapid data retrieval, such as gaming, video editing, and heavy multitasking
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Sit dowwwwwwwn let the nerds speak. This game is fine. It's sick even.

[Proxy]

Originally posted by SharkPlush:

Buddy's 2060 super build here is going a great job with everything except Lumen on Medium.

I don't think you need it but if you're buying new components why would you get an SSD when you can get an NVME??

NVME drives are SSDs. I don't know where you got the idea they aren't. Its like saying a Camry isn't a car.

[SharkPlush]

just because they're both flash memory lol by that logic use a thumb drive lmao, by that logic every car is also a bus. Damn you and damn abstraction.

[Proxy]

Originally posted by SharkPlush:

It would be very easy for someone to just not know what the NVME is since typing "SSD" in doesn't try to sell them. It's a like sixfold or greater performance difference, their physical form factor is completely different as well. Yes they are both flash memory, but I go you bro.

NVME drives come in other form factors than NGFF, and you can get NGFF SATA drives as well. Keep trying though, its fun watching a 12 year old try to flex his "buddies" limited knowledge.

[ebolaconundrum]

Originally posted by Ontrix_Kitsune:

Originally posted by drakeloreroar:

This is just outright incorrect.
I'm also seeing 0/0 VRAM and im running a smooth 120 FPS on max settings. Hardware lumen also works it's just not displaying the VRAM despite very clearly detecting the card.

And yet me and many other people that see 0/0 VRAM suffer from stuttering, hitching, and stalling in the game (NOT SMOOTH AT ALL). Just because it works for you does NOT mean it will work for everyone.

VRAM 0/0 shows for everyone on the in game overlay no matter what their performance.
We are trying to tell you that you're barking up the wrong tree. But if you want to continue that's your business I wish you luck.

[ebolaconundrum]

Originally posted by Ontrix_Kitsune:

I really do wish people would stop commenting the "It works fine for me!" comments. That's not helpful at all and has nothing to do with this thread.

What people are actually trying to tell you is there is no correlation between the VRAM counter in game and performance it's just a broken counter.

[ebolaconundrum]

Originally posted by SharkPlush:

just because they're both flash memory lol by that logic use a thumb drive lmao, by that logic every car is also a bus. Damn you and damn abstraction.

SSD stands for Solid Sate Drive.

So yes it is a type of SSD.

[peon]

Its just like fallout 3/4 when it came out, it only recognized a very small set of video cards to auto settings.

Will likely never get fixed ^^.

This game is cursed though, its launched the last few times for me fingers crossed it works today. I disabled framegen as I think that might be causing crashes still.

Had to revert back to the old nvidia driver for my 4070 super, after installing the driver hotfix for the latest driver I started getting in game crashes due to the nvidia driver crashing.

Its all a mess. Im glad im playing this on gamepass, id be upset if I paid 80$ canadian for this.

Just for the record, I am enjoying it, when it actually launches and plays, but out of the 12 hours of playing, only 4 of them have been ingame, the rest has just been launching and watching the game freeze.

[Proxy]

Originally posted by ebolaconundrum:

What people are actually trying to tell you is there is no correlation between the VRAM counter in game and performance it's just a broken counter.

People make up their mind on this kind of thing, logic and reason have no effect.

[Scorcher24]

Originally posted by SharkPlush:

Even SSD's are outdated technically! Just probably "good enough" though, and always will be imo. Now your entry level gamer mobo comes with a NVME slot, I do believe it's even faster than an SSD because that socket is to accommodate a faster bridge than SATA.

Depends on the amount of PCIe lanes your Mobo has. Most cheaper motherboards, such as B series for AMD/Intel and/or H for Intel, only have one M.2 slot with actual NVME speeds, the other one is always SATA and using it disables or or two SATA slots. But it says that in your motherboard's manual. Also keep an eye out for speeds. No point in spending a boatload of cash on a Gen 4 or higher Mobo and then buying a Gen 3 NVME.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Originally posted by SharkPlush:

If you have the hardware

and it isnt overheating

and it isnt working right

reinstall windows and use the software with just the OS and the minimum drivers necessary

It's like: we're telling you, something's up, it runs pretty good. nobody's being constructive because you aren't good enough at PC gaming to do the few admittedly annoying maintenance things most likely to solve your problem with this game in 45-90 minutes

maybe pc gaming isnt for you is my take

None of that is the issue, all other games on the computer work perfectly fine for me. It's just this one game with problems. I even play many other UE5 games with no issues at all (perfectly smooth always). It's nothing at all wrong with my computer, my hardware, my windows (software) or anything at all to do with me.

It's a bug in their game and they need to fix it. Nothing else will fix it. For now I issued a refund through Steam until they release an update to address this so the game will be fixed and run correctly. IF they release updates to fix this I may consider buying it again some day.

[Weird Potato]

Originally posted by SharkPlush:

Even SSD's are outdated technically! Just probably "good enough" though, and always will be imo. Now your entry level gamer mobo comes with a NVME slot, I do believe it's even faster than an SSD because that socket is to accommodate a faster bridge than SATA.

A NvME (SSD) is a SSD. You seem under the impression it is not. NvME is the interface. A NvME SSD is a (wait for it) SSD.

[Gønzö]

Originally posted by Ontrix_Kitsune:

Originally posted by drakeloreroar:

This is just outright incorrect.
I'm also seeing 0/0 VRAM and im running a smooth 120 FPS on max settings. Hardware lumen also works it's just not displaying the VRAM despite very clearly detecting the card.

And yet me and many other people that see 0/0 VRAM suffer from stuttering, hitching, and stalling in the game (NOT SMOOTH AT ALL). Just because it works for you does NOT mean it will work for everyone.

No one is disagreeing with that. You are just pushing incorrect statements which is misleading. You must not understand this, its misleading because its not actually happening the way you are describing. Its obviously a UI bug. I’m getting stuttering but I can also run hardware RT. I couldn’t do that if it wasn’t detecting my GPU. I’ve been gaming before the 2000s and common sense says its a UI glitch not what you are describing.