How can I get Deetsan to spit the keys to open the wells behind the mages guild?

[METALORD]

This lizzard wont give it away and now I can't make progression in the mages guild.

[Trip]

You gotta wait till the elf is far enough away, vertical as well as horizontal. One basically needs to be on it he far side of the room or just not be in the room.

It's a pain. You can wait till one or the other is in a far corner then keep starting a conversation with them to lock them in place till the other wanders far enough away.

Did I mention it's a pain in the ass?

[Masque]

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Cheydinhal_Recommendation

Originally posted by UESP:

Deetsan will agree to talk to you about your assignment only if Falcar is not in the same room, which is the case between 1pm and 6pm. Once he's out of sight, you'll learn you're not the first one to get this task. Vidkun - the previous Associate - disappeared while trying to find the ring. After this word of caution, Deetsan will give you the Well Key and a Buoyancy spell.

[Stop Nakba Denial]

Bro, you're going to have a really rough time playing this game if you need help on every quest.

[Trip]

I'm an elder scrolls veteran and I still play with UESP open in a window. You never know when a quest is going to bug out.

https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Oblivion

[Masque]

Originally posted by Stop Nakba Denial:

Bro, you're going to have a really rough time playing this game if you need help on every quest.

That's what we're here for, though.

Also, everyone doesn't know that UESP has literally all the solutions and then some.

[Stop Nakba Denial]

Originally posted by Masque:

Originally posted by Stop Nakba Denial:

Bro, you're going to have a really rough time playing this game if you need help on every quest.

That's what we're here for, though.

Also, everyone doesn't know that UESP has literally all the solutions and then some.

Sure, I guess. I'm just impressed with the guy having 9 open topics, 5 being help with quests, and 3 just on the front page. I don't bother with UESP though and definitely wouldn't recommend it for a first playthrough.

[Masque]

Yeah, UESP is definitely a mystery-destroying site.

I rather liked how the forums for Supraland (a great Portal-esque puzzle game series, one of my favorites) handled the problem of people asking for solutions. The basic rule in the forum was "only give hints" and that way the player could still have a sense of victory for having figured it out.

It would be nice if we could do that here, too. This from someone who just utterly violated that philosophy, of course.

[METALORD]

Originally posted by Stop Nakba Denial:

Bro, you're going to have a really rough time playing this game if you need help on every quest.

I been struggling.
i AM struggling.