Issues with crowd control and healing/too much damage taken when making parties.

[[[Number1RatedSalesman1997]]]

Whenever I make a party, it's always sorely lacking in crowd control, healing, or both. I need help with counteracting this issue, just general team composition tips will do.

[[[Number1RatedSalesman1997]]]

lawjax původně napsal:

Do you mean to tell me there are people who do not play this game with a party of 4 Plague Doctors? That sounds positively hellish if true.

i've played with a team of 3 highwaymen and done surprisingly well.

[Nakos]

RopeDrink has beaten the game with a team of Antiquarians ;)

(To be fair, I think it was 3 Antiquarians and a Jester, but still ... )

[Woldy]

Shieldbreaker(1, Man-at-arms(2, Jester(3, vestal(4
This team covers all areas. Not 100% winrate (never is with anything in this game) but its an amazing team nontheless.

[Justice]

Nakos původně napsal:

RopeDrink has beaten the game with a team of Antiquarians ;)

(To be fair, I think it was 3 Antiquarians and a Jester, but still ... )

And some beat Dark Souls naked with rusty sword. Flexing and hitting your head against wall - until you get good or spending 10-20 turns to win a battle with quad antiqurian doesn't makes a good advice or helpfull for anyone except elitists try hards who seek challenges and to boost their ego.

[Nakos]

Justice původně napsal:

Nakos původně napsal:

RopeDrink has beaten the game with a team of Antiquarians ;)

(To be fair, I think it was 3 Antiquarians and a Jester, but still ... )

And some beat Dark Souls naked with rusty sword. Flexing and hitting your head against wall - until you get good or spending 10-20 turns to win a battle with quad antiqurian doesn't makes a good advice or helpfull for anyone except elitists try hards who seek challenges and to boost their ego.

No actually. that's not directly analogous.

Dark Souls requires reflexes. It's a different genre of game

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1095632035
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1095632449

Darkest Dungeon? That's just knowledge. You can do it too.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2065003292&searchtext=git+gud

[OntologicalWeevil]

Crusader's stressheal has a heal so it's great for getting people off death's door.

[Justice]

Nakos původně napsal:

Darkest Dungeon? That's just knowledge. You can do it too.

For most part yes, but it still horrible suggestion and still unnecessary flex of something as quad antiquarian or quad Leper. Doesn't help anyone who's looking for genuine help and advices for the game

[Legendary Girl A]

Number1RatedSalesman1997 původně napsal:

Ghoul Hunter původně napsal:

You'll have to give me more information. You ask for help, but I ask how?

i said general team composition tips will do.

Vestal-Generic Healer
Judgement for Rank 4 hits, Stun for CC, Single Heal, Party Heal

Plague Doctor-Status Healer
Rank 3+4 Stun since she's fast and can go first before the enemy most of the time, Blight Rank 3+4 Blight for debuff, Heal+Clear Debuff, 4th skill is up to prefefence but I usually run single target Blight

Occultist-RNG Heal
Just run whichever skill compliments your teams, stun/pull/mark/debuff your pick
Only thing you need to keep in mind is never heal with him on Death's Door, cause he can heal for 0 and applies bleed, effectively killing the character you're supposed to be healing

Arbalest/Musketeer-DPS Healer
Turn 1-2 you kill backline, de-stealth, mark, etc.
Then spam heal whenever necessary until you can go back to being DPS again

Crusader-The odd healer
Heal and Stress Heal from any position, can fix position with Holy Lance, has Stun

Jester-Vestal's BFF
Best buff in the entire game, also stress heal, if you can properly stall finishing battle with full health and 0 stress is possible

Antiquarian-Moneymaker
You're not running her for the heal, period

Flagellant-The masochist healer
Heal>Bleed>Exa/Redeem>Repeat
Has very good synergy with Plague Doctor, Stun Rank 3+4>Bleed Rank 3+4>Another Bleed stack+Bleed on Rank 3+4>enemy backline dies on turn 2/3

Example team

-PD,HWM,Crus,Flag-
HWM/Crus dances in the middle with Duelist Advance and Holy Lance, has CC, Bleed/Blight cure, this team can deal with most situation cause you got almost all bases covered (High burst, reliable stuns, Bleed/Blight procs, can fix positions easily)

-Vestal+3xJesters-
Pemature Eja- Finale XD

There are many more that you can find once you've become more experienced in the game

[Nakos]

Justice původně napsal:

Nakos původně napsal:

Darkest Dungeon? That's just knowledge. You can do it too.

For most part yes, but it still horrible suggestion and still unnecessary flex of something as quad antiquarian or quad Leper. Doesn't help anyone who's looking for genuine help and advices for the game

The whole point is that for this game, it's not nearly that much of a stretch.

And I did link No One's guide.

[RopeDrink]

Justice původně napsal:

And some beat Dark Souls naked with rusty sword. Flexing and hitting your head against wall - until you get good or spending 10-20 turns to win a battle with quad antiqurian doesn't makes a good advice or helpfull for anyone except elitists try hards who seek challenges and to boost their ego.

Previous quote:
"Good comps abusing good stats within their element will struggle to fail - but even then, you can beat the game with Quad Antiquarians if you truly want to."

The analogy contains no suggestions, advice, or ego. It is a matter of fact, and offered as a low bar, indicating that better options exist - but if you choose to forgo efficiency and stack the proverbial 'weakest combatant', you can still succeed if you want.

The whole post denotes two ends of difficulty, the prevalence of stats over comps, and how you don't need to live by the meta to achieve a comfortable victory.

[[[Number1RatedSalesman1997]]]

Nakos původně napsal:

Justice původně napsal:

For most part yes, but it still horrible suggestion and still unnecessary flex of something as quad antiquarian or quad Leper. Doesn't help anyone who's looking for genuine help and advices for the game

The whole point is that for this game, it's not nearly that much of a stretch.

And I did link No One's guide.

please don't tell me you people are about to argue.

[Nakos]

I was pretty much done, if I was going to argue with him, I'd have said a lot more.

Point is, the game's difficulty level is largely driven by lack of knowledge and it's an old game, players have a very good understanding of what makes the game work and how to deal with that.

No One's guide is an excellent place to start if you want to know more, but he is really serious about the fact that the game gets more and more boring as you understand it better, so proceed (through that, or any guide) with caution.