I wonder how much better stacking Virtue is now

[Panfilo]

With a lot more potential to rack up stress, focusing on Virtue might be more worth it. A few heroes also have virtue chance tied into trinkets.

On one recent battle, an enemy critted my Occultist. He hung on, but the stress from the crit also virtue tested my Arbalest and Hellion.
Arbalest: Focused
Hellion: Powerful.

Yes!!!

[Cure Seraph]

As in getting stuff like Irrepressible and the Hero's Ring on a hero then use them to test trinkets that usualy cause heavy stress damage and get a buff out of it?

[carnate]

I feel like since stress gain is much heavier now, it's a much more valuable stat than it was before. But it's not a reliable strategy so much as a worthwhile safety net.

[Cure Seraph]

Originally posted by carnate:

I feel like since stress gain is much heavier now, it's a much more valuable stat than it was before. But it's not a reliable strategy so much as a worthwhile safety net.

You could have a Irrespresible Crusader with Holy Orders and a Hero's ring for a much higher chance of virtue than affliction.

[Panfilo]

That would be really fun.

Say you found a stack of books early on. Have the Crusader burn them, and if you get Virtue, then you're probably going to steamroll the dungeon. But if he's afflicted, just flee and the only one you have to deal with in the Hamlet is him.

[Cure Seraph]

Originally posted by jerjare:

That would be really fun.

Say you found a stack of books early on. Have the Crusader burn them, and if you get Virtue, then you're probably going to steamroll the dungeon. But if he's afflicted, just flee and the only one you have to deal with in the Hamlet is him.

Might want to explore some rooms first, just to make sure a week transpires in case of a failure, could be good when you have an afflicted hero that needs to have a quirk removed before he can't be send in for stress relief... How often I get Gamblers that become Known Cheats is beyond me.

[Panfilo]

Good point. I cant remember how far into the dungeon you need to go to trigger a week passing. Do you know?

Going for virtue has other benefits. Not only does it make the hero IMMUNE to being afflicted for the rest of the dungeon, but most (maybe all?) of the virtue effects also buff other heroes, either giving them free stress heals, bonus ACC, or other benefits. Having two heroes get their virtue check becomes exponentially better, with free buffs getting thrown around like crazy.

[Cure Seraph]

Originally posted by jerjare:

Good point. I cant remember how far into the dungeon you need to go to trigger a week passing. Do you know?

Going for virtue has other benefits. Not only does it make the hero IMMUNE to being afflicted for the rest of the dungeon, but most (maybe all?) of the virtue effects also buff other heroes, either giving them free stress heals, bonus ACC, or other benefits. Having two heroes get their virtue check becomes exponentially better, with free buffs getting thrown around like crazy.

I'm not sure but I think it's at least 4 rooms, can't confirm it sadly since I usually try to go as far as I can go, which has gotten really hard since last patch... Green Dungeons are ending in full wipes or at least one newbie dead all the time now.

[Reedo]

There is a few things wrong with this idea: If you get a bad resolve check, if you leave, you loose all the money you spent on provisions.

Getting a negative resolve ckeck will stress out other heroes too, as will leaving a dungeon, so in fact, you'll have to heal all of their stress probably.

[Panfilo]

How much stress does it add, and how is it factored into stress resist that those other heroes are going to have along the way?

And how much do you really spend on provisions? Are you telling me you can't recoup that in 4 rooms?

[Reedo]

Well... On a long dungeon I spend like 8K in provisions? In a champion dungeon I get those quite quickly, but on easy or medium ones, not so much. I don't know exactly what the penalty is, try your tactic out yourself and see how it goes. I just wanted to state the two most obvious problems with this strategy.

[Panfilo]

I certainly wouldn't rely on it obviously. Like anything, it's a risk/reward. Like choosing when to camp. I just figure if they're going to throw a ton of stress our way we can either try to mitigate it or make it work for us. Now that corpses exist I have an easier time in fights because I adapted to them. Since resolve is going to be tested more often looking at building Virtue is an option.

[h0b0king]

I think this sounds like a fun tactic, but I'm not sure it's an especailly viable one - very risky most likely. I don't think the virtue chance can ever really get up much past 50/50 (not sure - maybe it can) and the stress hits from getting to 100 without burning books seem prohibative, likely to end up with a party of a couple of afflicteds and one virtuous? Still it seems like a cool idea.