Speed explanation

[LordGurciullo]

Hi guys, I'm ruthlessly obsessed with this game and am trying not to rage quit when I lose 15 hours of trinkets and heroes!
Is there any way to figure out how this speed ♥♥♥♥ works? It would be insanely awesome if there was a way to know who is going to go next. I still cant figure it out.
Thanks.

[Baywatch]

The apprentice Matchman having a speed stat of -20 would imply that an initiative roll is calculated with a d20 + the speed stat. How it works isn't transparent at all so, anyone's guess is as good as mine. The only thing we know for certain is more speed is better.

You can generally count on naturally fast characters winning initiative a lot but, it's much less certain for anyone else unless you build for it. Beyond that, there is no indication of turn order during combat.

[rollingboy]

Whoever has the highest SPD stat goes first.

[LordGurciullo]

Right. So its more RNG. Cool :).

[billy]

it shows you who has been and who has a go left and then looking at there speeds you can guesstimate.

[Okami]

Sorry to bump an old topic, but I wish to know WHEN speed is calculated ?

1/ is it every turn ? =>the speed roll are made at the beguining of every turn so boosting speed with buff only take effect on the next turn.

2/ dynamicaly ? => the speed roll are made at every character turn, so you can effectivaly play before an ennemy, if you time well your speed buff.

any answer ?

[LordGurciullo]

great question

[Pentalis]

Originally posted by Okami:

Sorry to bump an old topic, but I wish to know WHEN speed is calculated ?

1/ is it every turn ? =>the speed roll are made at the beguining of every turn so boosting speed with buff only take effect on the next turn.

2/ dynamicaly ? => the speed roll are made at every character turn, so you can effectivaly play before an ennemy, if you time well your speed buff.

any answer ?

From my own exhaustive testing using the Plague Doctor's speed and damage buff, I can say that initiative is rolled <at the start of every turn>, not the individual roll of a character. If you receive a speed buff mid-turn, your former initiative roll will still stay.

Source: many many turns of my low speed character still going last after being buffed over 6 SPD in before his turn comes (sometimes 12 SPD from 2 different buffs)

[anaid]

Originally posted by Okami:

Sorry to bump an old topic, but I wish to know WHEN speed is calculated ?

1/ is it every turn ? =>the speed roll are made at the beguining of every turn so boosting speed with buff only take effect on the next turn.

2/ dynamicaly ? => the speed roll are made at every character turn, so you can effectivaly play before an ennemy, if you time well your speed buff.

any answer ?

The first method applies in DD if I recall a previous thread on this topic correctly. Every hero and enemy gets a dice roll (though I don't know to what number it goes) and that number is added to their SPD stat. If you buff someone's SPD, it is added to the next roll the next round.

I suppose it's done so that there is already a determined order of turns at the beginning of a round. But as everyone says, the higher your SPD, the bigger chance that the added dice roll numbers added lets you go first.

[Ramond]

d20 seems pretty plausible, seeing how SPD ranges with a variation of around 5 or so still result in quite an unpredictable turn order.
I've recently had a battle turn where my 1 SPD Crusader went first. And I had a Highwayman with 12 SPD on the team.

[ZiN]

Originally posted by Ramond:

d20 seems pretty plausible...

Yes, plausible as currently in effect. Ideally i think d10 would be better, along, with dynamic initiative, eg. buffing speed mid-turn would push the target forward, in the initiative "queue".
Red Hook?

[Reedo]

Originally posted by Okami:

Sorry to bump an old topic, but I wish to know WHEN speed is calculated ?

1/ is it every turn ? =>the speed roll are made at the beguining of every turn so boosting speed with buff only take effect on the next turn.

2/ dynamicaly ? => the speed roll are made at every character turn, so you can effectivaly play before an ennemy, if you time well your speed buff.

any answer ?

I believe at is at the start of a turn. I always see speed buffs coming to effect AFTER the round they were given in.

[Okami]

Damn... it reduce a lot the value of skills like Battle balad :/