The end?

[topshoulder]

Does any one know what happen? I don't understand. Are we trapped in a loop of space and time? Are we the Ancestor? Or will we become the Ancestor? Someone please answer me???

[topshoulder]

Originally posted by jerjare:

I think it's just the evil trolling humanity.

I don't think so, jerjare, I believe there are multiple gods in the game world.
The proofs are both Crusader and Vestal use holy light as weapon against evil, there must be some good gods lend their power to them. And we have Altar of Light, Holy Fountain and holy water, so there are some good gods exsit in the game.

The fish people also worship their own god, the Fish Idol, probably Dagon.
So the old god we fight against is just one of many gods in game, it is not the only god.

[Boon: White Toblerone]

Yknow, there's all one big thing about this... The Ancestor is, to say the least, quite an unreliable narrator due to his pride and toying with forces beyond his knowledge. One could just as easily pass off all that he says in the ending as the insane monolouging of a shattered mind. One friend of mine actually interprets it all as this, and assumes that well, the HoD HAS been eternally vanquished, and the ending monolouge is just the Ancestor's spirit trying to get the last laugh in by trying to convince us it was all pointless, annoyed that you overcame what he could not.

Whether it's a valid explanation or just him being in denial is up for debate, but eh. Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

[Panfilo]

I can totally imagine him goading you into suicide simply out of being a sore loser.

"Oh you won? Well why don't you just kill yourself you smug little b@stard!"

*Sees all the other Force Ghosts in the Old Road*

"Man our Uncle is kind of a jerk huh"

[SuperBritishQuokka]

bumping. Keep going. I want to read more of your interpretation!

[Magic Mike]

What I don't understand is that all the bosses are "evils" caused by the Ancestor's undoings, Warrens is full of mutant pigs that eat humans, weald is full of mutant plants that sap the good soil, bandits that hijacks traders, Cove is full of mutant fish that are anniquilating the common marine life, etc; I don't get why the Ancestor first makes you cleanout his undoings on Hamlet before practially destroying the whole world , first kill all the Eldritch to then let the giant eldritch Hearth consume all...

[Nikor]

Originally posted by Magic Mike:

What I don't understand is that all the bosses are "evils" caused by the Ancestor's undoings, Warrens is full of mutant pigs that eat humans, weald is full of mutant plants that sap the good soil, bandits that hijacks traders, Cove is full of mutant fish that are anniquilating the common marine life, etc; I don't get why the Ancestor first makes you cleanout his undoings on Hamlet before practially destroying the whole world , first kill all the Eldritch to then let the giant eldritch Hearth consume all...

Well, my guess is that he needs your strong, resilent heroes for some purpose. Either he hopes that you can finally succeed in awakening it - by feeding your lvl-6's to it during the last battle - or he hopes that you will repeatedly fail, and your strong, resilent heroes' bodies will be consumed to fuel its awakening.

[The Officer That Left]

Originally posted by Nikor:

Originally posted by Magic Mike:

What I don't understand is that all the bosses are "evils" caused by the Ancestor's undoings, Warrens is full of mutant pigs that eat humans, weald is full of mutant plants that sap the good soil, bandits that hijacks traders, Cove is full of mutant fish that are anniquilating the common marine life, etc; I don't get why the Ancestor first makes you cleanout his undoings on Hamlet before practially destroying the whole world , first kill all the Eldritch to then let the giant eldritch Hearth consume all...

Well, my guess is that he needs your strong, resilent heroes for some purpose. Either he hopes that you can finally succeed in awakening it - by feeding your lvl-6's to it during the last battle - or he hopes that you will repeatedly fail, and your strong, resilent heroes' bodies will be consumed to fuel its awakening.

All the blood that has been spilled from your "heroes" lands upon the earth, and the earth feed's "It" for the earth is it's egg.

[Eye_of_the_Void]

so where dose the abomination fit in because the abomination looks like the Baphomet soo... is Satan sending demons to punch the cosmic horror in the face or is that abomination really just infected with something because if it is.... that's kind of lame

[SuperBritishQuokka]

necro.
Well, It doesn't matter. An Abomination is whobbly fleshy thing with no true shape like everything else in this world. It's all a collectiv hallunication

[Enhancement Talent]

I interpreted it as such:

The ancestor's hubris awakens the heart of darkness, which is a being sleeping in the bowels of the earth. It is effectively the earth's "heart", and the earth itself is a cosmic being surrounded in an outer shell, much like an egg. The Ancestor, upon realizing his folly, sends the letter to try and get you to stop what he has awakened. When you begin to see the truth behind the world, you see that people are hideous masses of flesh. Whether that's how we truly are, or hallucinations from the darkest dungeon, is up to interpretation. I believe that people really do look like that, and we just don't SEE them as such until the truth is revealed to us. When you finally make it to the heart of darkness, he takes on the form of the ancestor to taunt you and prove his point: we're all mere creations of this great being, that is as of yet unhatched, and the act of attempting to stop the creatures awakening is not only futile, but only has served to accelerate it. When you finally manage to overcome the heart, it is destroyed, but shall return once again. You cannot seemingly "kill it" permanently. Upon the realization that all we're doing is delaying the inevitable, the heir eventually takes his own life, and haunts the grounds in warning. There is only one ancestor, but mans hubris means the cycle is doomed to repeat. The best you can do is hope to delay this things inevitable awakening, and hope you don't wake it up in the process of attempting to do so.

[Polyester™]

Why is everyone trusting the Heart of Darkness so much? He obviousully has a vested intrest in us giving up, and even when we get a game over we can start another NG+.

I think the player is actually one of the good gods when interacting with the menu screen, considering how you are able to create new runs and undo the Heart of Darkness's ♥♥♥♥ by pushing a few buttons.


Also, consider what happens when you beat NG+. There is no NG++. The Heart of Darkness does not get any stronger after NG+. This seems odd if your theories are correct.

I think the rabbit hole goes deeper than many of you are implying.

[SuperBritishQuokka]

You shouldn't take Game Mechanics too much into account.

Do you want to see how the game deletes itself after you loose ng+ just to show you end the world?

[nightshift]

This thread is awesome. ppl starting their comments like "in my opinion.. " and then black spoiler-lines all over. And it was a good read.

[Eye_of_the_Void]

my tread necromancy was sucessful

[Black Hammer]

I got a sort of Innsmouth vibe off it, in that the Ancestor and the Heir(s) are all contaminated to see the world this way, and that it may not be the reality for everyone, it is still the world they see.

Essentially, that bloodline is tainted to live in a different world than everyone else. Perhaps the lvl 6 heroes are equally tainted by what they've seen, and join it at well. I get the impression there are other powers present besides the one the Ancestor pursues, like whatever powers the Vestal/Crusader and whatever the fish people worship.

The Shamblers might also be working at cross-purposes, why else would they be taking the Ancestor's artifacts further from the Heir's reach?